Do you actually expect me to respond to this nonsense? I believe what the Bible clearly says, not your bias.Had a baby lately?
Now, tell me man and woman are equal.
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Do you actually expect me to respond to this nonsense? I believe what the Bible clearly says, not your bias.Had a baby lately?
Now, tell me man and woman are equal.
Many men want to dominate women. Is that Christian behavior?Some women want to dominate men.
Is that Christian behavior?
I believe some people follow Paul instead of Jesus. I don't know if this is the explanation.There is neither male nor female in Christ Jesus.
Why can't people understand what this clearly means?
People perform eisegesis to prove a personal doctrine. They lack understanding by the Holy Spirit and are trying to put Christians under their personal interpretation of God's law. I am thankful that you and I and some others believe in the fruit of the Spirit and have escaped legalism.I believe some people follow Paul instead of Jesus. I don't know if this is the explanation.
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Yes, it partially excludes women.
Women can't lead men.
Women can prophesy, and teach younger women.
Homosexuals, transgenders, woman pastors, people who smoke marijuana, drunks and so forth.
Some women want to dominate men.
Is that Christian behavior?
know then that was not read right nor did i make it plain .. had you been reading all my post you would see i have said many times women CAN teach adult s.s class as per women preaching being a pastor we only have what paul wrote to timothy it reads if a A Man desires no place does it say women. i am not on a anti woman campaign. i do know some women preachers. i will leave it up to God to handle that. their work will either burn up or stand the fire test.That women can not teach an adult Bible study class.
People who are homosexuals, transgenders, drunkards, and so forth will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21
Woman who are pastors, teachers, evangelists, apostles or prophets, are certainly not included in the above.
JLB
Woman who are pastors, teachers, evangelists, apostles or prophets, are certainly not included in the above.
Not the Mosaic Law, but we are under Law to Christ.This is just a new law, and Christians are not under law.
Yes, because the apostle Paul said so, with his reasons that I agree with.Can you give a valid reason why women can't lead men? Can you give a valid reason why women can't do anything that doesn't require extreme physical strength? Are women somehow mentally, emotionally, or spiritually deficient in your opinion.
Instead of blaming "incorrect doctrine" for your POV, why not just do as Paul exhorted?Some of the problem with the incorrect doctrine may stem from the Greek word ἀνθρώποις (anthrōpois), which is translated 'men' in older translations (due to cultural bias) but is actually generic, referring to both men and women.. Modern translations correctly translate the word as 'people'.
Sounds good to me, but I include 1 Tim 2:12.For example, 2 Timothy 2:2, KJV, "And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also."
I though I had made it clear, but we will try again.So which is it?
Women can indeed be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors or teachers or they are not?
There is no such thing as a woman having a God given right to teach men.If it’s a wife trying dominate her husband then that’s nothing more than witchcraft; a work of the flesh.
However a women college teacher exercising her god given authority over a student who is male, then that is not “dominating”.
There is no such thing as a woman having a God given right to teach men.
In fact quite the contrary. (1 Tim 2:12)
know then that was not read right nor did i make it plain .. had you been reading all my post you would see i have said many times women CAN teach adult s.s class as per women preaching being a pastor we only have what paul wrote to timothy it reads if a A Man desires no place does it say women. i am not on a anti woman campaign. i do know some women preachers. i will leave it up to God to handle that. their work will either burn up or stand the fire test.
You do not know if they are saved to start with. They definitely are self deceived if they think they are called and can lead in the church.
yes there are lots men who do not belong in the ministryThat goes for men and women,
Amen. That goes for men and women, their work will either burn up or stand the fire test.
JLB
Women cannot be apostles, evangelists, or pastors of churches.
There is no such thing as a woman having a God given right to teach men.
i am not Pentecostal but do feel all should be welcome to partake in the worship service ..i am suppose be Baptist. but mostly just forgiven . the disagreements are should a woman teach or preach. as per women preaching we can only go by scripture.In my own church, (Pentecostal) all are welcome to pray and praise the Lord as they feel led, women, included. Of course, they are. Not only are women permitted, they are very welcome to take part.