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Shouldn’t we embrace Arminianism?

OzSpen said:
jason,

From where in the Bible did you gain that doctrine?

Oz
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1,its a question .

2.am i to believe that my steps aren't ordered by the lord ,or that I,may make plans and the lord decides whether to prosper them?
3.look I have had a job a desire to work closed to me.have that happen and sense and know that God did that and you tell me God doesn't open or close doors for vocations.you just up and decided without a calling to be a pastor ?surely you had to feel the calling ,you prayed,others verified and you studied and while being made for it,you had to work at it but the gift,and the desire were put into you according Gods Will.he just doesn't do that with the five types of ministries but also ,and i hate to use this word ,secular work.I wasn't saved when i enlisted but I did pray about being in,and while not always faithful God did bless my military career and gift me for it.the same might be said about turning wrenches ,that said both these are closed to me for vocation,however reading meters in this covid 19 isn't ,and well part time work as a general service tech .

I was forced into meter reading and I found out I was good at it .this was 7 years ago .I wasn't something i planned for ,or even prayed for to do.just look,for a job or be jobless ,the meter reading was something offered to me as I faced cuts,this also happened to me in numerous mos as my unit changed.I learned new skills I did have yet or needed to get good at and grew.God was in,that .
 
Imho covid 19 is something God allows yet to those who will give Him glory will see God in it.

Thanks Floyd
 
jerry63935 said:
we are chosen that is Bible but like predestination on salvation man can only speculate
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We are chosen.
Right.
But why?

What does predestination on salvation mean to you?

Why can we only speculate?
Doesn't the bible teach us what Jesus wanted us to know?

Tomorrow....
'night.
 
wondering said:
We are chosen.
Right.
But why?

What does predestination on salvation mean to you?

Why can we only speculate?
Doesn't the bible teach us what Jesus wanted us to know?

Tomorrow....
'night.
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Because God choose to ,

Do you really think God is robot that he doesn't choose to love ?

You come across that God doesn't already know who will come .
Of course God wants all to repent but not all will,is the lost Judas ,Gods chosen ?

Nothing about me now or then is Good enough to have earned God or even make God want to love me .he choose me .

Not,that I'm special to have earned it
 
i flat out disagree with calvinism on salvation imo its confusing. but i dont agree with baptism of the spirit speaking in tongues . dont agree with having to be baptized to join a church. i have even asked for scripture.none can produce it.. if someone want to pusha doctrine in my face as saying i am wrong they are right. then i dont mind speaking some things.. its a full time job taking care of me.. times i fail
 
jerry63935 said:
i just dont i see tongues as a gift not a must in fillied/having the spirit . i was not given this gift. if he wanted me to speak in tongues he would enable me
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The baptism with the Spirit comes with evidence that is seen and or heard.

It‘s called the promise of the Father.

Everyone should have a prayer language to speak to God from their spirit.

Speaking in Tongues with the Interpretation is different.


One is for public and is for edification of the Church.

The other is for private devotion, praying and or interceding.



JLB
 
jasonc said:
Because God choose to ,

Do you really think God is robot that he doesn't choose to love ?

You come across that God doesn't already know who will come .
Of course God wants all to repent but not all will,is the lost Judas ,Gods chosen ?

Nothing about me now or then is Good enough to have earned God or even make God want to love me .he choose me .

Not,that I'm special to have earned it
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God KNOWS who will come.
Does KNOWING mean that HE CAUSED the person to come?

If God wants all to come, as you've stated, then what part does man play in salvation?
Don't I have to answer YES to His call?
 
wondering said:
God KNOWS who will come.
Does KNOWING mean that HE CAUSED the person to come?

If God wants all to come, as you've stated, then what part does man play in salvation?
Don't I have to answer YES to His call?
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You,really don't understand the five points .

He makes know one do anything ,but having the ability to foresee who will,he used them.

Im going to build a church .it will be so powerful that Satan can't stop it ,yet God can't control tomorrow ,let alone know who will be on his teams of ministries?

That doesn't mean God can't be frustrated or hindered .only that ultimately the church will be in victory ,war takes planning .
 
jerry63935 said:
i have a prayer language i talk to the LORD all the time in english . your welcome to your belief. i dont question it it as wrong or right
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For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
1 Corinthians 14:14-15


JLB
 
JLB said:
For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
1 Corinthians 14:14-15


JLB
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so your saying if i dont pray in tongues then i am not being heard
 
jerry63935 said:
so your saying if i dont pray in tongues then i am not being heard
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Not at all.

The scripture says ... For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.


Our spirit man, who has the Spirit of Christ within, has a greater capacity to pray beyond our understanding, which is why Paul says ... Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.


Also praying in the Spirit, builds or edifies ourselves.

But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude 20-21




JLB
 
JLB said:
For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
1 Corinthians 14:14-15

JLB
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JLB,

However, in 1 Cor 12 we read:

29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts (1 Cor 12:29-31 NIV).​

The rhetorical questions asked here anticipate a 'no' answer. So, not all will speak in tongues - even in private prayer. If God hasn't given the gift of tongues, nobody can invent it.

This topic has gotten to the point where we are not addressing the OP: 'Shouldn’t we embrace Arminianism?'

Oz
 
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