The Body of Christ Will Endure During God's Great Wrath

[Jacks Bratt]

The Tribulation is not for the Church.

The Tribulation is God’s wrath upon the unbelieving world, and not for those who are saved from Christ’s resurrection to the Rapture — called the Church. Yes believers have suffered all throughout human history, but there is a special time (just like the Flood) set apart called the Day of the Lord for God’s wrath. Christians suffering and the Tribulation/Day of the Lord are different.


True believers in Christ during the Church Age, represented by the Church of Philadelphia, are promised in Revelation 3:10, “Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.” Paul states in 1 Thessalonians 1:10, “and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.” He also states in 1 Thessalonians 5:9, “For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.” Romans 5:9 states, “Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!” Ephesians 5:6 states, “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.” Colossians 3:4 states, “When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.” Again and again, Scripture states the Church is not meant to endure God’s wrath.

 

[Jacks Bratt]

The Church is busy elsewhere during the Tribulation.

While the 7-year Tribulation is occurring, the Bible records the Church will be busy with three events. None of the three have to do with suffering on a world being destroyed.


The first event the raptured Church will participate in is a judgment by God — the Judgment of the Just. This judgment on works is not to determine eternal destiny, but to determine degrees of reward (2 Cor. 5:10; Rev. 19:6-9).


The second event is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. This feast celebrates the spiritual marriage of Christ’s Bride — the Church — to her Savior. Revelation 19:7-9 shares this wonderful celebration, “Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear. (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.) Then the angel said to me, ‘Write: ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!’ And he added, ‘These are the true words of God.'”


The third event follows the Marriage Supper of the Lamb and is the Church’s preparation to follow the King of Kings into the Battle of Armageddon at the conclusion of the Tribulation. This event is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ (Zech. 14:1-21; Matt. 24:29-31; Mk. 13:24-27; Lk. 21:25-27; Rev. 19:11-21). Revelation 19:14 identifies the Church in their “fine linen, white and clean,” which was given to them during the first event — the Judgment of the Just. The Church and angelic forces follow the King of Kings into His Second Coming to the earth, but only Jesus Himself will engage in battle and with mere words defeats the nations in siege against Jerusalem.


All of these posts from this site:

http://christinprophecy.org/articles/why-i-believe-in-a-pre-tribulation-rapture/

 

[DiscipleDave]

.. .. .. ... . . .. . .. . ... .. . The third woe begins with the seventh trumpet in Rev 11:15 and will end with the Great White Throne judgment in Rev 20.

The Great White Throne Judgment does not happen until After the 1,000 years of satan being bound, and the battle of God and satan over the Holy City Jerusalem. After the 7th Trumpet is blown is when the 7 vials will begin to be poured out on the Earth, consisting of 3 1/2 years prior to satan being bound for a thousand years. See pic that i will add later in this thread.

The Marriage Supper of the Lamb comes in Rev 19 as at this time we have only prepared ourselves to be His Bride, but not yet caught up to Him. It is not until Jesus returns with His army of warring angels and destroys the beast and false prophet casting them into the lake of fire

When Jesus gets here at the 7th Trumpet, He first goes around the World and gathers up the dead in Christ, then He goes around the Earth again and gathers up the living True Christians, He then has His army. The beast and antichrist are not cast into the lake of fire for some thousand years later when they are risen to fight with satan after satan is released against Jesus and the Saints. When they lose, which they think they will not lose, is when there will be the Great White Throne Judgment, which will at that time cast satan, demons, the antichrist, and all those who continue to willingly obey satan, into hell for all eternity

... . .. . . .. . . .. .. ... .. . .. . . .. . Satan will be loosed for a time as he deceives the nations as he gathers his army to go up to surround the camp of the saints of God, but are destroyed by fire that God sends down on them.

This is a description of what is going to take place After the 1,000 years of satan being bound. he is released and he gathers up all the dead that belong to him, and they try to take the Holy City for themselves, so they can escape this prison that God put them in, called "Earth", For they are bound to this planet and can't leave it, unless they overtake the Holy City that came down out of Space (Heaven).

. . .. . .. .. .. . ... . . . . . . Many teach that the Church will be Raptured out of here before Gods wrath (tribulation), but according to these scriptures the body of Christ who are still alive at Christ coming will be here on earth during the time of the greatest tribulation this world has ever seen nor will ever see again, Matthew 24:21.

There are 7 seals that are broken, there are 7 Trumpets that are blown, there are 7 vials/bowls that are poured out. Jesus Christ Returns to the Earth with the Holy City Jerusalem, to Rapture the Church at the 7th Trumpet sounding.

... . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Third woe
Seventh trumpet Rev 11:15 through Rev 20:15 (seventh trumpet includes all the events that unfold and ends with the great white throne judgment)

After the 7th Trumpet sounding, 3 1/2 years the vials will be poured out to wipe the wicked, those that were left behind off the face of the planet, then the thousand years satan is bound, and the Earth is like that of the Garden of Eden, Jesus and the Saints reign over the 144,000 which will repopulate the Earth during that 1,000 years. After those years are over, satan is released and there is a battle between satan and God. After that battle is the Great White Throne Judgement which casts satan and all those who serve and obey him into the Lake of fire.

This generation would do well to understand Zechariah 14. And what it says.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

A Timeline that is going to happen in the future.

 

[Jacks Bratt]

A Timeline that is going to happen in the future.

The problem that I have is that you say that up until the 3 1/2 year mark.... both the peace is kept and the mark is mandatory... I don't see this being possible due to the fact that there are billions of Christians who will not take the mark. Doesn't seem to me like both can happen at the same time.

Also, the church cannot be raptured off of the earth while a new Jerusalem is coming down..

Are not the new heaven and the new earth created with the new Jerusalem?

 

[for_his_glory]

So, I will ask these questions again, as I always do when someone tells me that the Rapture comes at the end of the Tribulation.

Where are all the Christians to go during a time when nobody can buy or sell without the mark?

Can you go 7 years without food, work, travel, communication with distant other Christians, sneaking from tree to tree, dumpster to dumpster in fear of your life?

What of the billions of people going to go and do? Are all of them going to be beheaded... that's a lot....?

If this is the case... how many Christians will remain at the end of the 7 years to raptured? One... two maybe.. that live in the Ozarks?

Is God going to expect the 80 year old Christian grandmothers and 12 year old innocent Christian children to watch their fathers, mothers, and others get beheaded and still not bow to the beast?

Seriously.... what kind of global carnage do you think awaits the children of Christ... after He said to "comfort each other with these words".

If you would have studied what I gave in the OP you would have known the answer so I will spell it out to you.

The book of Nahum is teaching about God's power in judgement (prophetic last days) against Nineveh and their well favored harlot, (Ref Rev 17). During this time of God's wrath being poured out upon the wicked that reject Christ we are told to seek refuge in Christ who is our stronghold in the day of trouble and will supply all our need, Philippians 4:19, as Jesus cherishes those who are His and we need only to give Him praise and glory for the day has finally come of our inheritance of eternal life with Christ has come, Jeremiah 33:11; Matthew 24:15-21.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven

 

[for_his_glory]

The Bible must see the Rapture (Jn. 14:1-4; I Cor. 15:51-58; 1 Thes. 4:13-18) and the Second Coming (Zech. 14:1-21; Matt. 24:29-31; Mk. 13:24-27; Lk. 21:25-27; Rev. 19) as separate events, because when the verses are compared they describe two very different scenarios:

1. Rapture — believers meet Christ in the air
   Second Coming — Christ returns to the Mount of Olives to meet the believers on earth
   
   
2. Rapture — Mount of Olives is unchanged
   Second Coming — Mount of Olives is divided, forming a valley east of Jerusalem
   
   
3. Rapture — living believers obtain glorified bodies
   Second Coming — living believers remain in same bodies
   
   
4. Rapture — believers go to heaven
   Second Coming — glorified believers come from heaven, earthly believers stay on earth
   
   
5. Rapture — world left unjudged and living in sin
   Second Coming — world is judged and righteousness is established
   
   
6. Rapture — depicts deliverance of the Church from wrath
   Second Coming — depicts deliverance of believers who endured wrath
   
   
7. Rapture — no signs precede it
   Second Coming — many signs precede it
   
   
8. Rapture — revealed only in New Testament
   Second Coming — revealed in both Old and New Testaments
   
   
9. Rapture — deals with only the saved
   Second Coming — deals with both the saved and unsaved
   
   
10. Rapture — Satan remains free
    Second Coming — Satan is bound and thrown into the Abyss

Since the Rapture and Second Coming clearly are different events that do not occur at the same time, this would rule out a Post-Tribulation Rapture scenario.

OT Prophets and NT Apostles have always taught the return of Christ and we being caught up to him on the last day as one event. It's mans theories and false teachings that make it two events.

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The last day is the last final day and not two separate events.

 

[for_his_glory]

Jacks Bratt I will address all from that website you copy and pasted instead of addressing every post.

There will never be a third Temple. The second Temple was built under Ezra’s leadership and Israel continued practicing Judaism and their Temple was desecrated as part of an effort to impose Greek-oriented culture and customs on the entire population. Roman rule refurbished the temple as Herod, Romans vassal king, rules the land of Israel. In 70 A.D. the Temple is once again destroyed. The Temple Mount was taken over in 691 A.D. as the Arab nation built the Dome of the Rock and there has not been any other Temple built since that time on the original Temple Mount or ever will be one built.

The Temple in the OT was the sanctuary of God here on earth as God from His heavenly throne (sanctuary) worked through those He chose to be His servants (priest) here on earth. In the NT Jesus spoke of the temple being his body and that he is the chief cornerstone, John 2:19-22. Eph 2:19-22; 1Peter 2:5. We who are in Christ indwelled with the Holy Spirit are now that temple of God not made of stone built by hand, but built of the foundation of Christ being our cornerstone, 1Cor 6:19; 2Cor 6:16. We are of the heavenly sanctuary where Gods seat is from above as we reign with Christ here on earth.

Matthew 24:29-31; John 6:38-40 gives the timing of when Christ will return and us, both dead and alive, being gathered to Him.

Scripture never speaks of just one Antichrist with a capitol "A', but says there are many antichrist, 1 John 2:18-26. The last one is known as the man of sin, son of perdition and the wicked one in whom Satan works through, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. This is the beast out of the earth whom is being restrained for now until that of God's timing during the seventh trumpet, Rev 13.

The end of days tribulation is that of God's greatest wrath that has never been before nor will ever be again, Matthew 24:21. Scripture was written for the Jew first and then given to the Gentiles as God would that none should perish and only God knows the name of the last one who will accept Jesus as Lord and Savior during the time of the Gospel being preached during the seven trumpets sounding.

One thing to think about is that the Holy Spirit dwells in the believer and if the believers in truth are taken up before the tribulation then how will others be able to hear the Gospel being preached to them if the Holy Spirit is no longer here on earth. Why would God even bother with all the seven trumpets and vile judgements if Jesus returns before the great tribulation of Gods great wrath being poured out into the eath? What would be the purpose of the beast out of the sea and out of the earth that will deceive with lying signs and wonders causing many to take it's mark.

These pretrib theories started with Margaret MacDonald in Port Glasgow, Scotland who first told others of a vision she had in 1830. She admitted the vision seemed evil and dark, but many preachers of that time ran with it and eventually was handed down to us through such men as J.N. Darby, Edward Irving, C.I. Lewis and many others to present day. Notice the word theory. Theory is just the carnal minds way of interpreting something that is not scriptural, but twist the scriptures to support their theories.

 

[for_his_glory]

The Great White Throne Judgment does not happen until After the 1,000 years of satan being bound, and the battle of God and satan over the Holy City Jerusalem. After the 7th Trumpet is blown is when the 7 vials will begin to be poured out on the Earth, consisting of 3 1/2 years prior to satan being bound for a thousand years. See pic that i will add later in this thread.



When Jesus gets here at the 7th Trumpet, He first goes around the World and gathers up the dead in Christ, then He goes around the Earth again and gathers up the living True Christians, He then has His army. The beast and antichrist are not cast into the lake of fire for some thousand years later when they are risen to fight with satan after satan is released against Jesus and the Saints. When they lose, which they think they will not lose, is when there will be the Great White Throne Judgment, which will at that time cast satan, demons, the antichrist, and all those who continue to willingly obey satan, into hell for all eternity



This is a description of what is going to take place After the 1,000 years of satan being bound. he is released and he gathers up all the dead that belong to him, and they try to take the Holy City for themselves, so they can escape this prison that God put them in, called "Earth", For they are bound to this planet and can't leave it, unless they overtake the Holy City that came down out of Space (Heaven).



There are 7 seals that are broken, there are 7 Trumpets that are blown, there are 7 vials/bowls that are poured out. Jesus Christ Returns to the Earth with the Holy City Jerusalem, to Rapture the Church at the 7th Trumpet sounding.



After the 7th Trumpet sounding, 3 1/2 years the vials will be poured out to wipe the wicked, those that were left behind off the face of the planet, then the thousand years satan is bound, and the Earth is like that of the Garden of Eden, Jesus and the Saints reign over the 144,000 which will repopulate the Earth during that 1,000 years. After those years are over, satan is released and there is a battle between satan and God. After that battle is the Great White Throne Judgement which casts satan and all those who serve and obey him into the Lake of fire.

This generation would do well to understand Zechariah 14. And what it says.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

This is nut shelling the events of the seventh trumpet beginning in Rev 11:15 - Rev 21.

The seventh trumpet involves all the last events that will take place from Rev 11:15 through Rev 22. To start with the kingdoms of this world will have now become the kingdoms of the Lord and His Christ and He will reign now forever. The woman, being Israel which represents all, Jew and Gentile, that are alive and in Christ will flee to the wilderness where God has prepared a place for them. These are all that are in Christ and He in them as when we see the abomination that Daniel spoke of in Daniel Chapter 7 and that we read about in Rev 13 Jesus told us to flee away from it as we need to stand in the Holy place, Matthew 24:15 which is our faith in Christ as we trust Him as He is our stronghold in times of trouble, Nahum 1:3-8. This could possibly be the timing of God sending all nations to battle against Jerusalem as Jesus speaks of the desolation that we are to flee from, Zechariah 14:1-7; Luke 21:20-22.

There is war in heaven between Michael and Satan and Satan is now cast out of heaven and starts working through the beast out of the sea who gives power to the beast out of the earth who is the son of perdition who comes with lying signs and wonders promising peace and safety and causes many to bow down to him and take his mark. Then we read about the 144,000 (not a literal number, but symbolic of a great multitude and different then that of the 144,000 in Rev 7), in heaven who are rejoicing with the angels and Jesus who stands on the symbolic mount Sion in the heavenly Jerusalem meaning where God, Jesus and the holy angels dwell which is called the heaven of heavens, Hebrews 12:22-24; Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; Psalms 115:16.

They are all rejoicing as the vial judgements are poured out on those who took the mark of the beast and bowed down to him as mystery Babylon is about to be described and then destroyed. We now read where the harvest judgement is being prepared as the wheat (Christians who took not the mark of the beast) is separated from the tares (those who took the mark of the beast) and kept safe during the seven vial judgements that are poured out on those who took the mark of the beast.

The great harlot is now describe and then destroyed as Babylon the great is destroyed. Christ then returns with His army of warning angels as at that time He will cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and then all the governments that followed after the beast being the remnant of every nation will be slain just by Jesus speaking it to be done.

Satan is now bound for a time as I do not believe it to be a literal 1000 years, but symbolic in its numbering like that of Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8. What reason would God have for waiting another 1000 years after destroying all the abominations as Jesus makes an end to all of it casting it into the lake of fire and destroying the remnant that followed the beast. Satan is loosed after a time to go out and deceive the nations as he gathers an army that still wants to destroy Gods people, but instead are consumed by fire sent down from God.

Then comes the Great White Throne judgement where the books are opened and all judged out of them including the Lamb's Book of Life as we are then judged for the things we did for the Lord here on earth and receive our reward of eternal life in the New Jerusalem that is ushered down from heaven and there we will be with the Lord for eternity.

 

[DiscipleDave]

The problem that I have is that you say that up until the 3 1/2 year mark.... both the peace is kept and the mark is mandatory... I don't see this being possible due to the fact that there are billions of Christians who will not take the mark. Doesn't seem to me like both can happen at the same time.

The Peace agreement only relates to Jerusalem, between the Jews and the Muslims. The Jews will be busy with their New Temple, and will not care about what is going on in the world. The mark is mad manditory, but it will take a year or even two before people are being killed because they don't have it.

Also, the church cannot be raptured off of the earth while a new Jerusalem is coming down..

Scriptures that teach it can't?

Are not the new heaven and the new earth created with the new Jerusalem?

New Heaven and New Earth is being created. When the Holy City comes down in the middle of the Tribulation Period, the process of having a New Heaven and New Earth had already begun 3 1/2 years prior to Holy City arriving with Jesus.

 

[DiscipleDave]

There is war in heaven between Michael and Satan and Satan is now cast out of heaven and starts working through the beast out of the sea who gives power to the beast out of the earth who is the son of perdition who comes with lying signs and wonders promising peace and safety and causes many to bow down to him and take his mark. Then we read about the 144,000 (not a literal number, but symbolic of a great multitude and different then that of the 144,000 in Rev 7), in heaven who are rejoicing with the angels and Jesus who stands on the symbolic mount Sion in the heavenly Jerusalem meaning where God, Jesus and the holy angels dwell which is called the heaven of heavens, Hebrews 12:22-24; Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; Psalms 115:16.

Scriptures most certainly teaches they are a specific number of people even saying which tribe 12,000 of them are sealed. And these are NOT different than the same number 144,000 in Rev 7.

Know you not that there is only ONE way to enter into LIFE everlasting? That is through the belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ into the heart of the believer. A person MUST be SAVED in order to be taken up in the Rapture. MUST be, that is the only way, do you agree? Yes or No? Children are NOT taken up in the Rapture. What? just now you agreed there is ONLY ONE WAY, but now you are back peddling saying that children are an exception? Children are NO exception, if you think they are, then show the Scripture which teach they are an exception to the ONE WAY to life everlasting. Know you not that those who are sealed are 144,000 children, for they are virgins, they do not know what sin is, nor will they ever experience what sin is. These children are NOT taken up with God during the Rapture, they are sealed, they are protected through the entire 7 year Tribulation Period. These are they that Isaiah 65 refer to, they will repopulate the Earth during the 1,000 years, these are they that we Saints will reign over during that time, and their offspring with them. The 144,000 are the first fruits of Jesus Christ, they are Redeemed from the Earth, they will not know what temptation even is. The 144,000 are NOT Saints, they are Not Raptured up with Him. The 144,000 are not Heathens either, these are chosen of God to be His firstfruits redeemed from the Tribulation Period. And there are 144,000 children that are sealed.

 

[DiscipleDave]

They are all rejoicing as the vial judgements are poured out on those who took the mark of the beast and bowed down to him as mystery Babylon is about to be described and then destroyed. We now read where the harvest judgement is being prepared as the wheat (Christians who took not the mark of the beast) is separated from the tares (those who took the mark of the beast) and kept safe during the seven vial judgements that are poured out on those who took the mark of the beast.

You have to understand, When the Rapture happens. All those who do not have the mark of the Beast are taken up, these are the Saints, who are those that are left but the billions who have taken the mark. Jesus when He returns in the middle of the Tribulation Period is when the Beast is destroyed. Those who still have the mark are still present and left behind. For 3 1/2 years after Jesus sets up His Kingdom on Earth He and us Saints will rule over those Heathens with a rod of iron. The 7 vials that are poured out after He gets here and sets up His Kingdom is to wipe out the Heathens from off the face of the Earth, Because the 1,000 year reign of Christ will not be over Heathens, but over the 144,000 children of God. The day that the wheat is separated from the tares is the "Day of the Lord" the "Rapture" those who are Christian and have not the mark, will be taken up with Him to be where He is for ever and ever and He will be in the Holy City Jerusalem where His Father is too.

 

[DiscipleDave]

The great harlot is now describe and then destroyed as Babylon the great is destroyed. Christ then returns with His army of warning angels as at that time He will cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and then all the governments that followed after the beast being the remnant of every nation will be slain just by Jesus speaking it to be done.

When Christ is here, He will be with His Saints, that is us. The Beast and false prophet are destroyed, but they are not cast into the lake of fire until over 1,000 years later, during the Great White Throne Judgment. All those who have taken the mark of the Beast will come against Jerusalem because the two witnesses are there. Please read my article explaining Zechariah Chapter 14. i think i may have to change some things in there to reflect that those nations that come against Jerusalem are they that have the mark of the Beast.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Satan is now bound for a time as I do not believe it to be a literal 1000 years, but symbolic in its numbering like that of Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8. What reason would God have for waiting another 1000 years after destroying all the abominations as Jesus makes an end to all of it casting it into the lake of fire and destroying the remnant that followed the beast. Satan is loosed after a time to go out and deceive the nations as he gathers an army that still wants to destroy Gods people, but instead are consumed by fire sent down from God.

Know you not that it is written that a thousand years to us but one day to God. It also says in another place that after a thousand years has passed it is but a yesterday to God.

The 1,000 years is God's Sabbath Day. From Adam to this present day has been around 6,000 years (6 days). The 1,000 year reign on Earth when satan is bound and can't tempt a soul at all, is God's Sabbath Day.

Here is what must shortly come to pass.
7 Year Tribulation Period will Start
The 7 trumpets start to blow.
144,000 children are sealed, protected from any harm.
The True Saints (the sheep, not the goats) are not appointed to wrath, but will most certainly see it.
Since Jesus did not come, most pretribbers will fall away from the Faith.
When the antichrist gets on TV and says "Where is your God now?" Most faiths of the world will fall away.
All nations come to attack Jerusalem, it is taken.
The 7th Trumpet is blown
Jesus Returns to the Earth.
Jesus goes around the World gathers those who are asleep in Christ (Dead)
Jesus goes around the World gathers those whose names are written in the Book of Life and have not been blotted out.
Jesus stands on Mt Zion
The Earth splits to the east and to the west, creating a huge valley in-between
The Mountains that are formed from doing this, then splits in half, north and south.
Four Mountains are Created with a Valley between them
New Holy City Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven over old Jerusalem.
It rests on new Mountains just made.
Jesus with the Saints, fight against all those nations that came against old Jerusalem
Any living thing that came against Jerusalem will die horribly.
Children of Israel flee to the Valley of the Mountains under the Holy City.
Jesus takes His Church to see the place that He prepared for them, the Holy City.
Marriage Supper of the Lord commences in the City.
Jesus lays down the LAW in the whole Earth. Rules with a rod of iron against the Heathens.
Heathens are to come up once a year to worship Him at the Holy City, or else.
Vials begin to be poured out on the Earth for the next 3 1/2 years.
The 144,000 in the Valley of the Mountains, are Safe and protected from vials.
End of 3 1/2 years no Heathens remain, they have all been put under His feet. (Literally)
satan is bound for 1,000 years.
Two rivers proceed out of the Holy City, and waters the whole Earth (No more Rain)
144,000 spread out over the whole Earth, repopulating it for a thousand years.
Saints Rule over the 144,000 and their offspring.
Earth like the Garden of Eden for 1,000 years. NO sin, NO hate, NO temptations, NO satan.
1,000 years = God's Sabbath Day.
satan, demons, are released.
satan goes around the world gathering up all those whose names were not written in the Book of Life, or blotted out.
They attack the Holy City with a massive army of the dead. They win it, the Universe in theirs to travel therein.
satan believes with the sheer numbers that he will have, that he can actually win.
he loses.
Great White Throne Judgment, where satan, demons, all those whose names were not written in the Book of Life and all those that were blotted out of the Book of Life are JUDGED, and know and understand why they are going to be forever separated from God, and be cast into the lake of fire.
The beginning of Eternity in Heaven.

This is what is going to happen, and Scriptures does not contradict even one thing said above. Now interpretations of men will most certainly contradict what i say above. But Scriptures does not. Interpretations belong to God, woe to men who think they are worthy enough to interpret the Word of God. God reveals to whom God reveals.

Amo_3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

God revealeth secrets to people. But woe to that person who via some other method, namely their own interpretations, they try to come up with secrets of God themselves. Woe unto them indeed. For because of them, there are many false doctrines that are leading the sheep astray. Interpretations belong to God, NOT TO MEN.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Then comes the Great White Throne judgement where the books are opened and all judged out of them including the Lamb's Book of Life as we are then judged for the things we did for the Lord here on earth and receive our reward of eternal life in the New Jerusalem that is ushered down from heaven and there we will be with the Lord for eternity.

The Great White Throne Judgment is for the wicked, NOT the Saints. On the "Day of the Lord" the "Rapture" is when it is Judgment Day to determine who will be taken and who are left behind, it is on this day of the Rapture that the Books are opened, NOT during the Great White Throne Judgment.. The dead and the Saints receive their rewards at the Rapture, at the 7th Trumpet. Jesus and us Saints will reign over the entire World for a 1003.5 years before satan is released, OUT of the Holy City Jerusalem that came down out of Heaven with Jesus Christ on that Great and Terrible Day of the Lord.

Search the Scriptures to see if what i am saying is TRUE. But with this generation, a person is guilty until they prove they are innocent. Instead of searching the Scriptures to see if what i say is TRUE or not True, you would rather just assume that i need meds, or that i am deceived, or that i hear demons, than to actually do what is Godly, and search the Scriptures and see if what i am teaching lines up with Scriptures or not.

If i teach anything that is contrary to Scriptures, then i am a false prophet indeed. And i am full aware that if someone claims to be a prophet and are not one, they shall die, not only that person, but all their family as well Scriptures teach, but if i am lying then so be it, but if i am telling you the TRUTH, then it would behoove you to search the Scriptures and see if what i say is TRUE or not TRUE, would it not?

 

[for_his_glory]

The Great White Throne Judgment is for the wicked, NOT the Saints. On the "Day of the Lord" the "Rapture" is when it is Judgment Day to determine who will be taken and who are left behind, it is on this day of the Rapture that the Books are opened, NOT during the Great White Throne Judgment.. The dead and the Saints receive their rewards at the Rapture, at the 7th Trumpet. Jesus and us Saints will reign over the entire World for a 1003.5 years before satan is released, OUT of the Holy City Jerusalem that came down out of Heaven with Jesus Christ on that Great and Terrible Day of the Lord.

Search the Scriptures to see if what i am saying is TRUE. But with this generation, a person is guilty until they prove they are innocent. Instead of searching the Scriptures to see if what i say is TRUE or not True, you would rather just assume that i need meds, or that i am deceived, or that i hear demons, than to actually do what is Godly, and search the Scriptures and see if what i am teaching lines up with Scriptures or not.

If i teach anything that is contrary to Scriptures, then i am a false prophet indeed. And i am full aware that if someone claims to be a prophet and are not one, they shall die, not only that person, but all their family as well Scriptures teach, but if i am lying then so be it, but if i am telling you the TRUTH, then it would behoove you to search the Scriptures and see if what i say is TRUE or not TRUE, would it not?

I would say you are not a liar, but giving what you believe to be truth so I have no right to judge you, but to only give what I have studied. We might not agree, but at least we are a brother and sister in the Lord and that is what is important. Here is my study:

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

When I read all the scriptures of Jesus sitting at the right hand of God and these scriptures that speak about the judgement of Christ, the judgement seat of Christ, the Great White throne judgement where God is sitting on the throne and the books that are opened, Matthew 25:31-34; John 5:27-29; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Rev 11:18; Rev 20:4-6; Rev 20:11, 12, this makes me believe that at the Great White Throne judgement God will be sitting on His throne and Jesus is there seated at Gods right hand now on His throne. All (saints and sinners) have been called from their graves (one resurrection) and the sheep are then separated from the goats as the sheep, being those of God and His Son will stand before the judgement seat of Christ as they have been given their new glorified bodies and their names found in the book of life. They will then be judged for their good works they did as being the continued works of the Lord being in Gods will and receive their crown rewards and their inheritance of the Kingdom of God. The goats being those who are not Gods will be judged out of the other books and their judgement is that of rejecting God and His Son and their punishment is being cast into the lake of fire.

Scripture never speaks of two resurrections, but only one resurrection, John 5:28, 29 and a second death being that of the lake of fire. There are two separate judgements, but only one resurrection as all will occur at the same time at the Great White Throne Judgement then will God renew the heaven and earth and usher down the New Jerusalem.

A 1000 years in Rev 20 is not literal years, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.

 

[for_his_glory]

Scriptures most certainly teaches they are a specific number of people even saying which tribe 12,000 of them are sealed. And these are NOT different than the same number 144,000 in Rev 7.

Know you not that there is only ONE way to enter into LIFE everlasting? That is through the belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ into the heart of the believer. A person MUST be SAVED in order to be taken up in the Rapture. MUST be, that is the only way, do you agree? Yes or No? Children are NOT taken up in the Rapture. What? just now you agreed there is ONLY ONE WAY, but now you are back peddling saying that children are an exception? Children are NO exception, if you think they are, then show the Scripture which teach they are an exception to the ONE WAY to life everlasting. Know you not that those who are sealed are 144,000 children, for they are virgins, they do not know what sin is, nor will they ever experience what sin is. These children are NOT taken up with God during the Rapture, they are sealed, they are protected through the entire 7 year Tribulation Period. These are they that Isaiah 65 refer to, they will repopulate the Earth during the 1,000 years, these are they that we Saints will reign over during that time, and their offspring with them. The 144,000 are the first fruits of Jesus Christ, they are Redeemed from the Earth, they will not know what temptation even is. The 144,000 are NOT Saints, they are Not Raptured up with Him. The 144,000 are not Heathens either, these are chosen of God to be His firstfruits redeemed from the Tribulation Period. And there are 144,000 children that are sealed.

Where did I ever speak of children not being caught up to Jesus when He returns and where is it written that the earth will be repopulated during the 1000 years Satan is bound? Nowhere in Isaiah 65 does it speak of repopulating the earth during the 1000 years as it is speaking of those who turned from God and not being a part of the New Jerusalem that God will usher down from heaven after after all the final Great White Throne judgements and this present heaven and earth are renewed again, Rev Chapter 21.

Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul. Salvation comes by that of John 3:3-6 and Romans 10:9,10 as we confess we are sinners needing Gods grace. It is Gods grace that pardons our sin and it's Gods mercy that loves us unconditionally. We are only sealed by the Holy Spirit and not saved at that time until the day of redemption, Matthew 24:13; 2Cor 1:22; Eph 1:13; 4:30, meaning when Christ returns and we are gathered to the Marriage Supper with Christ, Rev 19, and then at that moment we are saved meaning our names are found in the Lamb's book of life and we will stand before the judgement seat of Christ, 2Cor 5:10, as He opens the book of life and judges us on the works we did for Him whether they are good or bad as our rewards are given at that time.

The 144,000 in Rev 14 are those men, women and children that make up the symbolic hundred and forty four thousand that have been redeemed from among men and are called virgins. This means those of Spiritual purity that make up the true Church or Bride of Christ and not to be equated with celibacy, Hebrews 12:22-24; James 1:18, 27; 2 Corinthians 11:2. The virgins being the firstfruits unto God and to Jesus through the Spiritual rebirth are those who have set their affection on those things from above as they have died to self and live for Christ, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; Colossians Chapter 3.

 

[for_his_glory]

You have to understand, When the Rapture happens. All those who do not have the mark of the Beast are taken up, these are the Saints, who are those that are left but the billions who have taken the mark. Jesus when He returns in the middle of the Tribulation Period is when the Beast is destroyed. Those who still have the mark are still present and left behind. For 3 1/2 years after Jesus sets up His Kingdom on Earth He and us Saints will rule over those Heathens with a rod of iron. The 7 vials that are poured out after He gets here and sets up His Kingdom is to wipe out the Heathens from off the face of the Earth, Because the 1,000 year reign of Christ will not be over Heathens, but over the 144,000 children of God. The day that the wheat is separated from the tares is the "Day of the Lord" the "Rapture" those who are Christian and have not the mark, will be taken up with Him to be where He is for ever and ever and He will be in the Holy City Jerusalem where His Father is too.

I take it you believe in a mid-trib catching up of the saints, but I believe scripture that says the last day when Christ returns we (alive and asleep in the grave) will then be caught up to him at the ending of the seventh trumpet sounding according to John 6:38-40; 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. This takes place after that of the beast out of the sea and out of the earth that causes many to take its mark in Rev 13 and after the seven vial judgements poured out on those who took the mark. Then the great harlot being mystery Babylon is described and then destroyed as at that timing is the last day when Christ returns and quickly makes and end of all the abominations on earth casting the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire, killing off the remnant that followed after them and binding Satan for a time. It's when Christ returns on the last day, Rev 19, that we are caught up to Him and kept in His safety as He plants His feet on the Mt of Olives and makes an end of all evil here on earth. Like I have said, I do not believe in a literal 1000 years, but that when Christ returns all things will be finished very quickly (In a twinkling of an eye) before the earth and heaven are renewed and the New Jerusalem is ushered down and then our inheritance is given us as we will be with the Lord forever.

 

[DiscipleDave]

I would say you are not a liar, but giving what you believe to be truth so I have no right to judge you, but to only give what I have studied.

We have every right to Judge, for we shall even judge angels, But our judgements should be Righteous Judgments. Which are judgments that come from the Word of God and not from the minds of humans. Therefore we are to Judge according to Scriptures, and not judge according to what we ourselves think and believe.

We might not agree, but at least we are a brother and sister in the Lord and that is what is important.

True, However it is also important that we all think the same things, that we all have ONE MIND, as Scriptures teach in several different places. Therefore it is a Godly thing to try to come to ONE MIND.

Here is my study:

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

What Throne is that? The Holy City Jerusalem is His Throne. Where ever that place is at, is where the Throne of God is at. Currently right now that Holy City Jerusalem is in Heaven. But as the above verse testifies When Jesus Returns to the Earth His Throne will be with HIM.

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations:

All Nations will be gathered to Him, these are they that are against Him when He Returns, read Zechariah 14.

and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

With all those nations that come against Jesus and the city Jerusalem will also be the 144,000, and also the Remnant of Israel that shall be Saved.

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

This is Judgement Day, the Day of the Lord. The Righteous are taken up in the Rapture, the unrighteous are left behind. Notice it says "inherit the kingdom PREPARED for you. This lines up with the words of Jesus which said "I go to prepare a place for you:

Joh_14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

2,000 years ago He left Earth to go to Heaven to prepare a place for each Saint in His Fathers House, When Jesus Returns, that place will be with Him, the Throne of God will be here on Earth, and that place is where Jesus is at. And Scriptures teach we will be where He is at.

John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

This is absolutely True, ALL dead shall hear His voice. But even as Jesus said "I will destroy this Temple and rebuild it in three days" knowing full well they did not understand what He was saying, did not correct them in their error in thinking. The hour is coming that all dead will hear His voice. However what He did not explain is that those are actually two different times. The Resurrection of Life happens during the first judgment, the Rapture, the Day of the Lord. All the dead Saints will hear His voice. The second Judgment, the Great White Throne Judgment all the rest will hear His voice. What the Apostle John said above is absolutely TRUE, the hour is coming that ALL shall hear His voice, he does not reveal that it is one specific day or one specific hour.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Again two different Judgments. At the 7th Trumpet:

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

This first Judgment Day is the Day of the Lord, the Rapture. The Saints are Judged, the dead Saints are judged and are given rewards. Those who are left behind will indeed be destroyed during the next 3 1/2 years after Jesus Returns and starts His reign on Earth. So ALL will appear before the Lord Jesus Christ to be judged. This takes place at two different times with two different Judgment Days. The first Judgment Day is the Rapture, where Jesus judges all people of the Earth, those who are written in the Book of Life are taken to be with Him where He is (Holy City) Those who are not written in the Book of Life are judged not worthy and remain, left behind. The Second Judgment Day is that all wicked shall stand before God, satan and demons too, and they will be judged and judgment given, and they will be sentenced to the Lake of Fire, this is the Great White Throne Judgment.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

lol, see above.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Jesus Returns at the 7th trumpet sounding, and Raptures the Dead at this time, He raptures all those that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and the Word of God, and did not worship the Beast or his image nor took their mark, these are Raptured up and are with Jesus before the Throne of God and the Thrones of the 24 elders, in the Holy City Jerusalem. The first resurrection is the Rapture. The second resurrection is after satan is released a thousand years later.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

This Judgment is AFTER the 1,000 year reign of Jesus and us Saints. At this Judgment if their names are not written in the Book of Life, they are NOT SAVED. the other books, one of which is the Book of Remembrance, is what will be used to judge the Heathens, for all things that they thought or did is written therein. When a soul is judged to NOT enter into Heaven, they will know for certain WHY they are not going, because of all those things they CHOSE to willingly do against God. There will not be one soul that will not understand why he/she is not going to Heaven.

 

[DiscipleDave]

When I read all the scriptures of Jesus sitting at the right hand of God and these scriptures that speak about the judgement of Christ, the judgement seat of Christ, the Great White throne judgement where God is sitting on the throne and the books that are opened, Matthew 25:31-34; John 5:27-29; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Rev 11:18; Rev 20:4-6; Rev 20:11, 12, this makes me believe that at the Great White Throne judgement God will be sitting on His throne and Jesus is there seated at Gods right hand now on His throne.

All this is TRUE. Remember the Throne of God is in the Holy City Jerusalem.

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the Throne of God and of the Lamb shall be IN IT; and his servants shall serve him:

So when Jesus comes to the Earth the second time and Raptures the Church, the New City Jerusalem will be with Him, the Throne of God on EARTH. Jesus will execute Judgment out of the Holy City on Earth during His entire reign on Earth for the thousand years, especially the 3 1/2 years prior to the millennium. There are Two different Judgment DAYS though. Two different resurrections. The first Judgment Day is the Rapture. the dead saints will be resurrected on this DAY, and then the living will be resurrected into their NEW bodies on this DAY as well. The second Judgment Day, The Great White Throne Judgment, is the resurrection of the dead, all those whose names were NOT written in the Book of Life, to stand before God and be judged and cast into the Lake of Fire. Hell is just a term used for wherever satan and his demons are currently at in the Earth. NO soul have been cast into hell. satan, demons, the Beast, the antichrist, the heathens, and all those that are NOT written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire at the end of the thousand years of satan being bound and the battle for the Holy City is concluded, then do all the wicked, satan included will stand before God and be cast into the Lake of Fire. Jesus Christ sits on His Throne with the Father even NOW in Heaven. And when Jesus returns to Earth to take His Great Power and reign, the Throne of God will be with Him, the Holy City Jerusalem is where He will reign out of, over the entire Earth. Jesus will be sitting on His Throne with the Father during the time of the Rapture, then entire 1,000 years of satan being bound, and also sitting with His Father during the Great White Throne Judgment at the very end.

All (saints and sinners) have been called from their graves (one resurrection)

There are Two Main Resurrections.

Luk_14:14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. (First Resurrection, the Rapture, happens on the Day of the Lord)

Joh_5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; (Rapture) and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.(Great White Throne Judgment) (Plain example of TWO different Resurrections, If you think they are the same event, you do error)

Act_24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. (Again, TWO separate resurrections, the Just (Rapture) and the unjust (Great White Throne Judgment)

Rev_20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (in saying FIRST RESURRECTION, plainly indicates another resurrection, Blessed is he/she that is taken in the first resurrection, the Rapture, these have been resurrected because they written in the Book of Life. The second resurrection is to judge the condemned, Blessed is the person who is resurrected during the first judgment, the Rapture.)

All (saints and sinners) have been called from their graves (one resurrection) and the sheep are then separated from the goats as the sheep, being those of God and His Son will stand before the judgement seat of Christ as they have been given their new glorified bodies and their names found in the book of life. They will then be judged for their good works they did as being the continued works of the Lord being in Gods will and receive their crown rewards and their inheritance of the Kingdom of God. The goats being those who are not Gods will be judged out of the other books and their judgement is that of rejecting God and His Son and their punishment is being cast into the lake of fire.

When the Rapture happens, it is judgment Day for SAINTS, God separates the sheep from the goats, the Saints are taken up to be with Jesus where He is.

zip into the future 1,000 years.

When the Great White Throne Judgment happens, it is judgment Day for the HEATHENS, God separates the sheep from the goats, the sheep (144,000 and their offspring) The goats, after that last great battle between Satan and God, are resurrected to be judged by God.

Scripture never speaks of two resurrections, but only one resurrection,

If there were only one resurrection, then Scriptures would not have talked about a FIRST resurrection, as if there is another to follow. Your interpretations of Scriptures makes you think there is not two resurrections. If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures then what you believe is wrong. God told me that many times, because i was always wanting to believe something as TRUE when there was a Scripture that contradicted, then He would say to me "If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures then what you believe is wrong" If there is ONLY ONE resurrection than that would most certainly be contrary to the Scripture that plainly teaches, blessed is he that is taken in the first resurrection, which plainly indicates there is ANOTHER ONE AFTER. Therefore the belief that there is only ONE resurrection is contrary to Scriptures, therefore is not correct.

John 5:28, 29 and a second death being that of the lake of fire. There are two separate judgements, but only one resurrection as all will occur at the same time at the Great White Throne Judgement then will God renew the heaven and earth and usher down the New Jerusalem.

There is a Resurrection of the Just, and there is a resurrection of the condemned. The Resurrection of the Just (the FIRST Resurrection) happens at the beginning of Jesus Christ reign on Earth, when He gets here, He Raptures the Church, the wicked dead are not judged at this time, they are judge over a thousand years later at the Great White Throne Judgment which is the resurrection of the condemned. What? Do you think there is only one day that Every one is Raptured, that all the Saints are taken to be with Jesus and at the same exact time all the wicked are cast into the lake of fire and brimstone. This belief contradicts MANY Scriptures. Zechariah 14 talks about Jesus reigning on the EARTH with the Saints and there are still heathens on the planet, that Jesus will MAKE come up year to year to worship HIM. if the Saints are already Raptured up, why are the wicked still living. Also if the Saints are Raptured up, any Heathens that die AFTER that day, when are they judged or stand before God? This generation would do well to understand the prophecies of Zechariah 14, and not only that chapter but most every prophet speaks about the end days, and what is going to happen. Zechariah 14 plainly talks about Jesus and the Saints reigning on EARTH and the Heathens come up year to year to worship Jesus, This could not be possible at all if there were only ONE resurrection, where the Saints are taken up and the heathens are cast into the Lake of Fire, who then are these that come up year to year? Even Isaiah testifies that the heathens (sinners) are present with the chosen of God ON EARTH. (Isaiah 65:20) "If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures then what you believe is wrong" Change what you believe to line up with ALL Scriptures. DON'T interpret Scriptures to line up with what you believe.