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The identity of the antichrist in 5 verses

1 John 4:2-4
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Every spirit that confesses that the Spirit of Christ is come to dwell in their flesh is of God, for it is the Spirit of God that is in us. So if you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, and you believe that the Spirit of Christ has come to dwell in your heart, then why do you look for the coming of another?
 
Hi Diane. I'm curious if you would be willing to take a microchip in the hand for the purpose of buying and selling. It is my experience that a lot of people will convince themselves that a microchip in the hand isn't spiritual or religious enough to be the Mark and so they will accept it as just another step in the evolution of money, from Gold coins, to coins of lesser value, paper money, cheques, credit cards, smart cards, online banking, phone banking etc...
John, if there were to be something like a microchip or some other method of buying/selling it seems to me, per scripture, that one would not be able to get it without first worshiping the 'beast' as their God.
Where in scripture does it say that a Christian can deny the Lord without willingly knowing what they are doing?
At one time, in the Roman Empire, both Jews and Christians were denied the right to buy and sell if they would not worship the Caesar. Many Christians and Jews were put to death because they would not worship Caesar. They would not agree that he was a god or their God.
One is not rejected by the Lord for using Caesar's money to buy and sell. And one does not reject the Lord by using it.
IMO, some of the theories about the 'mark' need to be examined more closely in the light of scripture rather than the fantastic imaginings of men.
 
So out goes the idea of using literal reading to grasp Scripture?
One of the reason my views have changed..
Okay, so Isaiah 7:14 refers to Maher-shalal-hash-baz in chapter 8 verse 3 and not to the virgin birth of Jesus?

And the point is not that context is to be eliminated to favor a doctrine but that the over all context of the entire Bible is to be taken rather than narrowly focusing in on one text. Not to do so causes division at the very least (water Baptists / Foot washers / 7th Day Adventists) you name it.
 
The mark of the beast (for the sake of argument I'll say...) COULD BE simply the Star of David. And those who refuse it are the ones the mark-system is in place to expose / weed out for annihilation.

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Daniel 9:27 indicates the beast will affirm the covenant (which Daniel refers to elsewhere in his prophetic book as the holy covenant or the Old Covenant) for 7 years and reneges on that in the middle of the 7 years. A rendition of the Church's first worst persecutors the Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah.
 
Think about it a moment. A man who can scientifically prove he lived 2000 years ago... DNA / blood content / whatever showing up on the scene, would be able to convince everyone he is who he claims to be... everyone but the Spirit-filled believers in Jesus Christ.

Revelation 13 (AV)
1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Daniel 11:37 (AV)
37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

2 Thessalonians 2:3–4 (AV)
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Matthew 24:15–27 (AV)
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25Behold, I have told you before.
26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Acts 1:9–11 (AV)
9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Revelation 1:7 (AV)
7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Matthew 24:30 (AV)
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 (AV)
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
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I remember seeing some place on the net a good many years back some one figured out a way to say Micky Mouse equaled 666
 
Still no answer Miss Deborah about Judas' so-called repentance?
Well, I just looked through every page of this thread. I only made one comment before today and it wasn't about Judas.
I think maybe you have mistaken me for another little bird avatar who's name also begins with a D. :wink
 
Well, I just looked through every page of this thread. I only made one comment before today and it wasn't about Judas.
I think maybe you have mistaken me for another little bird avatar who's name also begins with a D. :wink

Oh, my bad.

So many boards... so many that oppose me... sorry (sheepish grin)
 
So... does Isaiah 7:14 apply to Maher-shalal-hash-baz or not, Reba?

And if not, why the life changing conversion to taking minute scripture contexts over the overall contexts which refer to the false messiah etc... ?
 
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