The Prodigal Son

[lisa-in-FL]

Peter gives us the divine prescription for success in living a life of godliness.


He has given us all things that pertain to life and godlinesss.


Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. 2 Peter 1:2-9


It may mean that we turn off the TV, and social media, secular music and worldly activities and invest our time developing a strong spiritual life.


It may mean we say no to ungodly relationships and ungodly choices, and get serious about our eternal destiny.


Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. Galatians 6:7-8

• but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

JLB

You missed my point. JESUS shed his blood for your sin and my sin and every ones sin. He is the only WAY to heaven.

 

[lisa-in-FL]

Who here has ever said this?
You'd better prove this, or some of us will put you on ignore.

You have an entire thread on verses that you say threaten the loss of salvation because of sin. You even have one in your signature.

Put your faith in Jesus Christ for your salvation, not your works.

 

[Walpole]

Wrong wrong wrong. Romans 3:20 ephesians 2:8-9. Many others.
Hey look at this https://www.gotquestions.org/Romans-2-7-works-salvation.html

Where do get there are no consequences to your sin from those verses?

The Scriptures are full of warnings for sinners. You know...repent, keeping the commandments, facing judgement, etc...all those pesky things some people apparently think do not apply.

What do you think the phrase "will not inherit the kingdom of God" means?

 

[lisa-in-FL]

Where do get there are no consequences to your sin from those verses?

The Scriptures are full of warnings for sinners. You know...repent, keeping the commandments, facing judgement, etc...all those pesky things some people apparently think do not apply.

What do you think the phrase "will not inherit the kingdom of God" means?

of course there is consequence for sin for everyone but if you discern between the verses talking to believers vs unbelievers its clear that you can't lose salvation.
I'll say it again, if you are relying on your works or yourown version of righteousness to get into heaven rather than the shed blood of Jesus Christ you will be sorely disappointed. He is the Way.

 

[ezra]

Where do get there are no consequences to your sin from those verses?

The Scriptures are full of warnings for sinners. You know...repent, keeping the commandments, facing judgement, etc...all those pesky things some people apparently think do not apply.

What do you think the phrase "will not inherit the kingdom of God" means?

[such as you were ] what do you do with that phrase ?
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[Walpole]

of course there is consequence for sin for everyone but if you discern between the verses talking to believers vs unbelievers its clear that you can't lose salvation.
I'll say it again, if you are relying on your works or yourown version of righteousness to get into heaven rather than the shed blood of Jesus Christ you will be sorely disappointed. He is the Way.

But my Scriptures state Christ came to call those from unrighteousness to righteousness.

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." (Mt 9:13)

 

[Walpole]

[such as you were ] what do you do with that phrase ?
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

So are you arguing St. Paul is telling the faithful at Corinth that they can be thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers and extortioners and still inherit the king of God???

 

[lisa-in-FL]

But my Scriptures state Christ came to call those from unrighteousness to righteousness.

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." (Mt 9:13)

My Bible says that too and I'm not sure why you think what I'm saying contradicts this.
We've all sinned and come short of the glory of God. The only righteousness that passes muster with God is that of his Son Jesus Christ. His death burial and resurrection is the price of my salvation.
Trust Jesus, not your good deeds. See the parable of the pharisee and publican.

 

[Walpole]

My Bible says that too and I'm not sure why you think what I'm saying contradicts this.
We've all sinned and come short of the glory of God. The only righteousness that passes muster with God is that of his Son Jesus Christ. His death burial and resurrection is the price of my salvation.
Trust Jesus, not your good deeds. See the parable of the pharisee and publican.

In St. Matthew's very detailed account of man's last judgement, Christ's final words are as follows:

"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." (Mt. 25:46)


The righteous = δίκαιος / dikaios = observing the divine laws; upright; righteous; virtuous; keeping the commands of God

 

[lisa-in-FL]

So are you arguing St. Paul is telling the faithful at Corinth that they can be thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers and extortioners and still inherit the king of God???

Past tense. Were as such.

Are you saying you aren't covetous and haven't told a lie since you've been saved? Can you really not tell the difference in the passages between the lost sinner and the saved sinner?
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[lisa-in-FL]

In St. Matthew's very detailed account of man's last judgement, Christ's final words are as follows:

"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." (Mt. 25:46)


The righteous = δίκαιος / dikaios = observing the divine laws; upright; righteous; virtuous; keeping the commands of God

Well then if you've kept every command of God then congrats, you don't need Jesus i guess.
As for me, I'll stick with the Savior.

 

[ezra]

So are you arguing St. Paul is telling the faithful at Corinth that they can be thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers and extortioners and still inherit the king of God???

did i say that i asked you what you did with the phrase such as you were...your adding to my question .please dont be implying something i never posted ..i dont play that game

 

[Walpole]

Well then if you've kept every command of God then congrats, you don't need Jesus i guess.
As for me, I'll stick with the Savior.

If you are genuinely struggling with failing to worship God, blaspheming Him, failing to honor your parents, murdering people, lying, stealing, committing adultery and coveting, your time would be better spent in prayer and not on internet forums.

 

[Walpole]

did i say that i asked you what you did with the phrase such as you were...your adding to my question .please dont be implying something i never posted ..i dont play that game

So now are you agreeing with Paul that if the faithful at Corinth are thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers and extortioners they will not in fact inherit the king of God?

 

[lisa-in-FL]

If you are genuinely struggling with failing to worship God, blaspheming Him, failing to honor your parents, murdering people, lying, stealing, committing adultery and coveting, your time would be better spent in prayer and not on internet forums.

Oh boy. Sweetheart, you are off the rails. Please do not trust in your own so called rightousness. We need Jesus.

 

[ezra]

So now are you agreeing with Paul that if the faithful at Corinth are thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers and extortioners they will not in fact inherit the king of God?

not sure what your trip is are you afraid of such as you were 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. .. see YOU fall into the above category .unless you was born a saint.. you just want to argue and say your right ..but nice try

 

[ezra]

If you are genuinely struggling with failing to worship God, blaspheming Him, failing to honor your parents, murdering people, lying, stealing, committing adultery and coveting, your time would be better spent in prayer and not on internet forums.

you need clean your own door step before cleaning someone else

 

[Walpole]

you need clean your own door step before cleaning someone else

What’s wrong with my door step?

 

[Walpole]

not sure what your trip is are you afraid of such as you were 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. .. see YOU fall into the above category .unless you was born a saint.. you just want to argue and say your right ..but nice try

There is no argument. St. Paul is clear and explicit: Those who break the commands of God will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Walpole]

Oh boy. Sweetheart, you are off the rails. Please do not trust in your own so called rightousness. We need Jesus.

Sweetheart, it is only because of the grace of Christ that we can be righteous.

“Unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Mt 5:20)