the rapture???

[n2thelight]

No, Jesus has not returned and the dead are not yet raised. The kingdoms are becoming his not by an aggressive hostile invasion but by more and people volunteering. Doesn’t that sound more like Jesus than the typical Russian like invasion so often preached?

I know I keep saying this , yet I must continue .How are the dead not raised already if Christ brings them with Him at His return .

The problem is in not understanding the resurrection

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I know I keep saying this , yet I must continue .How are the dead not raised already if Christ brings them with Him at His return .

The problem is in not understanding the resurrection

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

 

[n2thelight]

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

And that present means what to you ?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

And that present means what to you ?

The saints who’ve died are with Jesus right now. The resurrected body awaits them.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Can't agree ,as satan is indeed the antichrist ,which in the Greek anti means instead of , and that's exactly how he shall deceive the world.

Apollyon is satan

revelation9

Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the He'-brew tongue is A-bad'-don, but in the Greek tongue hath his [the] name A-pol'-ly-on." There can be no doubt who the Antichrist is. Jesus is telling us here, through the pen of John. Satan is that King; and "Abaddon" in the Hebrew language means "destroyer" and that is Satan's name. This is verified in the Greek the name, "Apollyon" [Strongs # 623, "the destroyer "Satan"]. Do you understand the fourth beast is supernatural

Abaddon cannot be Satan, because the Dragon is Satan as it says in Revelations 12 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." After the Dragon falls to Earth, he has the key to the Abyss and releases Abaddon. That is the star that falls from heaven and is given a key to the bottomless pit. The Dragon gives power to the image of Beast that is inhabited by Abaddon. Now, is there two Satans? Because only one can be Satan.

 

[n2thelight]

Abaddon cannot be Satan, because the Dragon is Satan as it says in Revelations 12 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." After the Dragon falls to Earth, he has the key to the Abyss and releases Abaddon. That is the star that falls from heaven and is given a key to the bottomless pit. The Dragon gives power to the image of Beast that is inhabited by Abaddon. Now, is there two Satans? Because only one can be Satan.

Yes the dragon is satan, as he has many names .

revelation12

Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." revelation9 Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the He'-brew tongue is A-bad'-don, but in the Greek tongue hath his [the] name A-pol'-ly-on." There can be no doubt who the Antichrist is. Jesus is telling us here, through the pen of John. Satan is that King; and "Abaddon" in the Hebrew language means "destroyer" and that is Satan's name. This is verified in the Greek the name, "Apollyon" [Strongs # 623, "the destroyer "Satan"].

satan goes by many names , depending on the role he is playing , below is a list of some

Names of Satan​

The Bible calls Satan by many different names. Each name has a slightly different meaning. The many other names for Satan give a fuller picture of who Satan is and what he does. There are more names for Satan in the Bible than for anyone else except Jesus Christ.

Abaddon​

Hebrew name for Satan meaning “Destruction”. “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11

Accuser​

“Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, ‘Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.’” Revelation 12:10

Adversary​

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8

Angel of light​

“And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.” 2 Corinthians 11:14

Angel of the bottomless pit​

“And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11

Anointed covering cherub​

"You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones." Ezekiel 28:14

Antichrist​

“And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” 1 John 4:3

Apollyon​

Greek name for Satan meaning “Destroyer”. “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11

Beast​

“9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, ‘If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.’” Revelation 14:9,10 Who is the beast?

Beelzebub​

“Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, ‘This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.’” Matthew 12:24

Belial​

“And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?” 2 Corinthians 6:15

Deceiver​

“So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9

Devil​

“He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” 1 John 3:8

Dragon​

“So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9

Enemy​

“The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.” Matthew 13:39

Evil one​

“I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.” John 17:15

Father of lies​

“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44

God of this age​

“Whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.” 2 Corinthians 4:4

King of Babylon​

“That you will take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say: ‘How the oppressor has ceased, The golden city ceased!’” Isaiah 14:4

King of the bottomless pit​

“And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11

King of Tyre​

"Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "You were the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.”’” Ezekiel 28:12

Lawless one​

“8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10

Leviathan​

“In that day the LORD with His severe sword, great and strong,
Will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent,
Leviathan that twisted serpent;
And He will slay the reptile that is in the sea.” Isaiah 27:1

Liar​

“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44

Little horn​

“ 9 And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land. 10 And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them. 11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.” Daniel 8:9-11

Lucifer​

"12 How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.'” Isaiah 14:12-14

Man of sin​

“3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4

Murderer​

“44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44

Power of darkness​

“13 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, 14 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.” Colossians 1:13, 14

Prince of the power of the air​

“1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience.” Ephesians 2:1,2

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[n2thelight]

Roaring lion​

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8

Rulers of the darkness​

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12

Ruler of demons​

“But some of them said, ‘He casts out demons by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.’” Luke 11:15

Ruler of this world​

“31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” John 12:31,32

Satan​

“And He was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted by Satan, and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered to Him.” Mark 1:13

Serpent of old​

“So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9

Son of perdition​

“3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4

Star​

“Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.” Revelation 9:1

Tempter​

“Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, ‘If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.’” Matthew 4:3

Thief​

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.” John 10:10

Wicked one​

“Above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.” Ephesians 6:16

This list of names for Satan has been taken from the New King James Version of the Bible.

There may be other names for Satan in the Bible. Please send me an email if you know of a name for Satan that I have missed.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Roaring lion​

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8

Rulers of the darkness​

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12

Ruler of demons​

“But some of them said, ‘He casts out demons by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.’” Luke 11:15

Ruler of this world​

“31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” John 12:31,32

Satan​

“And He was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted by Satan, and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered to Him.” Mark 1:13

Serpent of old​

“So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9

Son of perdition​

“3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4

Star​

“Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.” Revelation 9:1

Tempter​

“Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, ‘If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.’” Matthew 4:3

Thief​

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.” John 10:10

Wicked one​

“Above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.” Ephesians 6:16

This list of names for Satan has been taken from the New King James Version of the Bible.

There may be other names for Satan in the Bible. Please send me an email if you know of a name for Satan that I have missed.

Only Satan, the Dragon, and devil are names for him. The rest are either descriptions or other beings.

Abaddon comes out of the Abyss when the Dragon falls from Heaven. They both happen at the same time, so they cannot be the same.

 

[n2thelight]

Only Satan, the Dragon, and devil are names for him. The rest are either descriptions or other beings.

Abaddon comes out of the Abyss when the Dragon falls from Heaven. They both happen at the same time, so they cannot be the same.

Where do you see abaddon coming out of the abyss ?

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Where do you see abaddon coming out of the abyss ?

In Revelations 9 when he is let out of the bottomless pit along with his locusts.

 

[n2thelight]

In Revelations 9 when he is let out of the bottomless pit along with his locusts.

he was given the keys after he's kicked out of Heaven

revelation9

Revelation 9:1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him he key of the bottomless pit [pit of the abyss]." The "star" that falls to the earth is the star of Isaiah 14. The star is "Lucifer", who will be the Antichrist once he arrives on earth. Satan is given the key, or authority to the bottomless pit, for this is where Satan's fallen angels are held. Right now, today, Satan is not in that bottomless pit, but in heaven. He is the accuser of the saints before the throne of God. The fallen angels are in the pit, or the abyss. The pit is not a place, or location, but a point of degradation. It's a similar statement to Satan being told he would always crawl on his belly, as the serpent. No Satan never became a snake, but he was a deceiver and his actions were as that of a snake. Here is where satan is now Revelation 12:10 "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power [authority] of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

 

[Michael The Archangel]

he was given the keys after he's kicked out of Heaven

revelation9

Revelation 9:1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him he key of the bottomless pit [pit of the abyss]." The "star" that falls to the earth is the star of Isaiah 14. The star is "Lucifer", who will be the Antichrist once he arrives on earth. Satan is given the key, or authority to the bottomless pit, for this is where Satan's fallen angels are held. Right now, today, Satan is not in that bottomless pit, but in heaven. He is the accuser of the saints before the throne of God. The fallen angels are in the pit, or the abyss. The pit is not a place, or location, but a point of degradation. It's a similar statement to Satan being told he would always crawl on his belly, as the serpent. No Satan never became a snake, but he was a deceiver and his actions were as that of a snake. Here is where satan is now Revelation 12:10 "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power [authority] of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

That star is the Dragon after he is defeated by Michael the Archangel. Not the same as the King who comes out of the Abyss with an army of locusts.

 

[n2thelight]

That star is the Dragon after he is defeated by Michael the Archangel. Not the same as the King who comes out of the Abyss with an army of locusts.

How you figure that ?Yes the star is satan the dragon ,satan is that king over them whom the keys were given to .

Who do you see coming out of the abyss ?

What king ?

Scripture please

 

[Michael The Archangel]

How you figure that ?Yes the star is satan the dragon ,satan is that king over them whom the keys were given to .

Who do you see coming out of the abyss ?

What king ?

Scripture please

There is an Angel of the Abyss, that implies he comes from the Bottomless Pit. He is one being, an individual known from myth, one who was wounded to death and lived. That is simply not Satan. Do you know what Satan is? The Dragon has seven heads and ten horns like the Beast, because Satan is a spirit of coalesced spirits who deceive through following generations of an evil bloodline. Satan is not one, but many who inhabit the practitioners of evil on the Earth. A spirit of a nation called the Dragon behind a nation called the Beast.

 

[n2thelight]

There is an Angel of the Abyss, that implies he comes from the Bottomless Pit. He is one being, an individual known from myth, one who was wounded to death and lived. That is simply not Satan. Do you know what Satan is? The Dragon has seven heads and ten horns like the Beast, because Satan is a spirit of coalesced spirits who deceive through following generations of an evil bloodline. Satan is not one, but many who inhabit the practitioners of evil on the Earth. A spirit of a nation called the Dragon behind a nation called the Beast.

Nooo , the head angel of the abyss is satan ,don't know what's implied that the king comes out of the abyss ,rather their king (satan) is given the key to releases them .

At the risk of giving satan some sort of credit, he is the head(king) over all demonic forces .It is him who let's those angels out , so how can the king be already in the abyss ?

The wounded to death is a system not an individual (one world government}that will be healed by this same dude who's over the abyss .

Do you understand the heads and horns ?

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Nooo , the head angel of the abyss is satan ,don't know what's implied that the king comes out of the abyss ,rather their king (satan) is given the key to releases them .

At the risk of giving satan some sort of credit, he is the head(king) over all demonic forces .It is him who let's those angels out , so how can the king be already in the abyss ?

The wounded to death is a system not an individual (one world government}that will be healed by this same dude who's over the abyss .

Do you understand the heads and horns ?

Do you understand the heads and horns?
It all has a meaning. Every detail means something.

On the Dragon is seven heads and ten horns like the Beast. That means the Dragon is nations and kings, but not the same makeup as the beast because it is spiritual. However the Dragon is the same system that is the Spirits of the Beast who died and continue to deceive in the afterlife. Those are who comprise the Dragon and it's counterparts to the Beast being the seven heads and ten horns. They multiply through generations as the spirit of evil grows. That is Satan.

Abaddon is merely one being that is their god who "once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction." As it is written he will come out of the Abyss and be let out by the Dragon after he falls from Heaven from his battle with the Archangel.

Read these words and leave no part out because these will be your testimony to defeat Babylon and become a saint.

 

[n2thelight]

Do you understand the heads and horns?
It all has a meaning. Every detail means something.

On the Dragon is seven heads and ten horns like the Beast. That means the Dragon is nations and kings, but not the same makeup as the beast because it is spiritual. However the Dragon is the same system that is the Spirits of the Beast who died and continue to deceive in the afterlife. Those are who comprise the Dragon and it's counterparts to the Beast being the seven heads and ten horns. They multiply through generations as the spirit of evil grows. That is Satan.

Abaddon is merely one being that is their god who "once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction." As it is written he will come out of the Abyss and be let out by the Dragon after he falls from Heaven from his battle with the Archangel.

Read these words and leave no part out because these will be your testimony to defeat Babylon and become a saint.

Yes I do understand the heads and horns ,not understanding why you can't see the below

Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the He'-brew tongue is A-bad'-don, but in the Greek tongue hath his [the] name A-pol'-ly-on."

There can be no doubt who the Antichrist is. Jesus is telling us here, through the pen of John. Satan is that King; and "Abaddon" in the Hebrew language means "destroyer" and that is Satan's name. This is verified in the Greek the name, "Apollyon" [Strongs # 623, "the destroyer "Satan"].

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Yes I do understand the heads and horns ,not understanding why you can't see the below

Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the He'-brew tongue is A-bad'-don, but in the Greek tongue hath his [the] name A-pol'-ly-on."

There can be no doubt who the Antichrist is. Jesus is telling us here, through the pen of John. Satan is that King; and "Abaddon" in the Hebrew language means "destroyer" and that is Satan's name. This is verified in the Greek the name, "Apollyon" [Strongs # 623, "the destroyer "Satan"].

There is no verse that says Satan is Apollyon, neither did Satan come out of the Abyss, so the Angel who does ascend from the Bottomless Pit who is Abaddon is a different entity.

 

[n2thelight]

There is no verse that says Satan is Apollyon, neither did Satan come out of the Abyss, so the Angel who does ascend from the Bottomless Pit who is Abaddon is a different entity.

Jesus is telling us here, through the pen of John. Satan is that King; and "Abaddon" in the Hebrew language means "destroyer" and that is Satan's name. This is verified in the Greek the name, "Apollyon" [Strongs # 623, "the destroyer "Satan"].

satan didn't come out of the abyss, he opened it .

Search results for "abaddon":
3. Abaddon ab-ad-dohn' of Hebrew origin (11); a destroying angel:--Abaddon.

Search results for "apollyon":
623. Apolluon ap-ol-loo'-ohn active participle of 622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):--Apollyon.

Same person

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Jesus is telling us here, through the pen of John. Satan is that King; and "Abaddon" in the Hebrew language means "destroyer" and that is Satan's name. This is verified in the Greek the name, "Apollyon" [Strongs # 623, "the destroyer "Satan"].

satan didn't come out of the abyss, he opened it .

Search results for "abaddon":
3. Abaddon ab-ad-dohn' of Hebrew origin (11); a destroying angel:--Abaddon.

Search results for "apollyon":
623. Apolluon ap-ol-loo'-ohn active participle of 622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):--Apollyon.

Same person

Abaddon comes out of the Abyss as it is written. Therefore he is not Satan who falls from heaven to let him out. There is no verse that calls Satan the destroyer and search results do not work. Apollyon is not even the Greek equivalent to Abaddon or Satan who is Hades. The Hermeticists call the Angel of the Abyss Apollyon. They are however incorrect.