The reason you cant lose your salvation is?.....

[Eugene]

I answered your question.

Pease answer mine.

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 2 Peter 2:4

Angels who are declared to be sons of God, were cast down to the bottom of Hell and chained.

I ask you honestly to answer from your heart...

If God were to allow you to visit one of these angels down in hell, what do you suppose they would say to you about sexual immorality?


JLB

I reckon answering a question with a question is the way around answering why you sin on purpose. To me you have yet to prove angels are sons of God. To me they do live forever, but they are not sons of God.

You say "If God were to allow you to visit one of these angels down in hell, what do you suppose they would say to you about sexual immorality?" I would think they would say all sin is wrong. Since you believe you can go to hell (I don't think you can - Jesus will in no wise cast you out), what great sin would you brag on that you purposely commit making you guilty of all?

 

[chessman]

There is a thread on this subject.

Please meet me over there to discuss.

I prefer to finish out my point here as it relates to how a person (a man) can/can't lose salvation.

While on this topic (man's salvation) you just admitted that Peter (and by parallel Jude) is using the example of unrighteous MEN that filled Sodom. Something I agree with, BTW since the text requires it.

Yet while trying to use these same Scriptures to 'prove' Nephilim are off spring of angels with women (strange flesh), you say those in Sodom were angels having sex with women (just not Satan himself or those particular angels). That's extremely inconsistent.

You're busted. Either Sodom was filled with corrupt men (going after the strange flesh of other men) as the text says or was it angels having sex with women, as you say while on another topic? You can't have the same text saying two different things depending on what doctrine you happen to be discussion. No wonder you want me to discuss it elsewhere.

The angels that Jude describes, "left their own abode" and as Sodom and Gomorrah, have gone after strange flesh...

Peter also validates this -

These angels were cast down to hell and confined to chains, because of their activity with the daughters of men.

Again, the "sons of God" were angels, not fallen angels.

 

[JLB]

I prefer to finish out my point here as it relates to how a person (a man) can/can't lose salvation.

While on this topic (man's salvation) you just admitted that Peter (and by parallel Jude) is using the example of unrighteous MEN that filled Sodom. Something I agree with, BTW since the text requires it.

Yet while trying to use these same Scriptures to 'prove' Nephilim are off spring of angels with women (strange flesh), you say those in Sodom were angels having sex with women (just not Satan himself or those particular angels). That's extremely inconsistent.

You're busted. Either Sodom was filled with corrupt men (going after the strange flesh of other men) as the text says or was it angels having sex with women, as you say while on another topic? You can't have the same text saying two different things depending on what doctrine you happen to be discussion. No wonder you want me to discuss it elsewhere.

Nice try!

You are aren't going to try and tangle up what the clear scriptures say.

And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 6-7

Angels who are sons of God and the men of Sodom and Gomorrah BOTH are now examples of sexual immorality and are BOTH set for as an example of eternal fire.

and again -

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-6


if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell... and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly...

Both Jude and Peter say the same things and associate the angels with those of Sodom and Gomorrah as an example.


JLB

 

[JLB]

I reckon answering a question with a question is the way around answering why you sin on purpose. To me you have yet to prove angels are sons of God. To me they do live forever, but they are not sons of God.

You say "If God were to allow you to visit one of these angels down in hell, what do you suppose they would say to you about sexual immorality?" I would think they would say all sin is wrong. Since you believe you can go to hell (I don't think you can - Jesus will in no wise cast you out), what great sin would you brag on that you purposely commit making you guilty of all?

I wouldn't brag on any sin.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Brother I hear what your saying, but I also see what is written.

Turning away from Christ and turning to "other" gods (idolatry).

How about the homosexual behavior.

Do you believe that a person can be a homosexual and also be a Christian?

In your opinion, what do you believe the bible teaches about that?


JLB

 

[Jethro Bodine]

So, once you have attained this free gift of Salvation, then how do you fall from this GRACE?
very simple.
YOU CANT.....but you can come to believe that you can...

"1 It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. 2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision (to be justified), Christ will be of no benefit to you. 3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. 4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace."" (Galatians 5:1-4 NASB)

Were the Galatians really not able to fall from grace, or had Paul simply made them think they could?

And once you do, you'll start trying to keep your salvation based on your behavior and that becomes your religion.
In other words you start trying, by self effort, to gain by your behavior what GOD already did for you.
Now isn't that a mess?

And Paul calls that falling from grace. But you say we can't fall from grace.

This is exactly what I pointed out before. OSAS believers will insist you can not lose your salvation, but then argue in a law discussion the danger to the believer of trying to be justified by works of the law. This duplicity, IMO, is what is a mess.

It really is, and some of you are deep into this mess and you need to get free from this self-righteous trap.

Or else what? Fall from grace as Paul says? The fall from grace you say can not happen?

The other reason that people get all tangled in a mental web of confusion about "losing it", or "keeping it", is because they have confused Discipleship with Salvation.
This is very typical of a Christian who will tell you that you can lose it if you dont live it.
Which is nonsense of course.

"32 "Then summoning him, his lord said to him, 'You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 'Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?' 34 "And his lord, moved with anger,handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 "My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart." (Matthew 18:32-35 NASB)

The forgiven servant did not live the forgiveness he had received. As a result he lost that forgiveness (he now had to pay back the debt he had been forgiven). Was Jesus just speaking nonsense when he taught this truth about how it is in the kingdom?

So, what is "discipleship".??
Well, its not something that can save you.......so get that right.

But it's something you can not be saved without:

"14 ...if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?
17 ...faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
18 But someone may well say, "You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works."
(James 2:14,17,18 NASB)

Discipleship is you trying to please God for what he has done for you, which does not save you or keep you saved.
Once you realize this, and begin to comprehend that Salvation is NOT OF YOU, and therefore cant be lost by you, you will then begin to experience the Joy of the Lord.

Hmm.....actually what the Bible says is that the manifest joy of God comes from acting out your faith in love for others:

"8 "My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples. 9 "Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love. 10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. 11 "These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full." (John 15:8-11 NASB)

...you will begin to serve God not because you are afraid or confused or feel guilty..... but because you are so THANKFUL and THAT is when you are living right.
That is when you have the real understanding of Salvation and Discipleship.

When you start living out your faith, that is when you have the real understanding of salvation and discipleship.

"13 Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom. " (James 3:13 NASB)

A joy based on the belief that faith without works saves (because salvation is not by works and and has nothing to do with you) is a deceitful joy that does not come from the Lord. It is a joy that comes from the flesh--flesh taking false comfort in the erroneous teaching that since salvation is so utterly of God there is nothing we can do, or not do, to lose it, or have to do to keep it.

 

[JLB]

I reckon answering a question with a question is the way around answering why you sin on purpose. To me you have yet to prove angels are sons of God. To me they do live forever, but they are not sons of God.?

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, "From where do you come?" So Satan answered the Lord and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it." Job 1:6-7


5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? 8 "Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb; Job 38:5-8

These are references to angelic beings who have the ability to leave the earth and were with God during His creation.

JLB

 

[chessman]

4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace."" (Galatians 5:1-4 NASB)

Were the Galatians really not able to fall from grace, or had Paul simply made them think they could?

Your acquaintance that once believed in Christ and was saved and spoke in tongues and now exhibits no fruit and denies Christ; is this person "seeking to be justified by the law" (circumcision, etc.)?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Your acquaintance that once believed in Christ and was saved and spoke in tongues and now exhibits no fruit and denies Christ; is this person "seeking to be justified by the law" (circumcision, etc.)?

No. I wish they had at least that measure of desire for God.

 

[chessman]

No. I wish they had at least that measure of desire for God.

Okay. I assumed not but wanted to make sure.

Therefore when we have Paul defining what he means by "fallen from Grace" as "attempting to be justified by the law" (I.e, a Converted Jew, reverting back to their customs) do you think "fallen from grace" is an applicable phrase to apply to your acquaintance's situation?

"you who are attempting to be justified by the law; you have fallen from grace."
​

I mean, it seems to me that Paul really wouldn't say that your acquaintance has "fallen from grace" within the context of the Gal 5 passage he wrote, you think?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Okay. I assumed not but wanted to make sure.

Therefore when we have Paul defining what he means by "fallen from Grace" as "attempting to be justified by the law" (I.e, a Converted Jew, reverting back to their customs) do you think "fallen from grace" is an applicable phrase to apply to your acquaintance's situation?

"you who are attempting to be justified by the law; you have fallen from grace."
​

I mean, it seems to me that Paul really wouldn't say that your acquaintance has "fallen from grace" within the context of the Gal 5 passage he wrote, you think?

The point is, Kidron said you can't fall from grace. And he was even speaking in the context of trying to be justified by law keeping.

Is trying to be justified by the law the exception? Is that the one thing you can do to lose your salvation?

 

[chessman]

The point is, Kidron said you can't fall from grace.

technically, he's right. unless you were an Orthodox Jew (impossible today, post 70 A.D. If not the day the vail tore), converted to Christ's Way, then fall back into the Orthodox Jewish Way, then you can't "fall from Grace" according to Paul's definition in Gal 5. (Which is the only place Paul uses it)

My point was/is that every time you use the term "fall from grace" and reference Gal 5 as if it's a synonym for a gentile Christian "losing their salvation" due to their rejection/unbelief, Paul would NOT agree with your misapplication of his phrase there. Clearly and plainly he was addressing a much different context/situation than you are when you use it toward us Gentiles and unbelievers. Those people WERE believers.

And you do it a lot!

Honestly, I get a chuckle out of it

every time you do.

It is a phrase Paul only used that one time in Gal 5 and it's Paul talking about God believing Jews going back to believing in their Old Ways, like a meth head goes back to their drug. Some of those God believers were being falsely lead into going back to their drug (circumcision/sacrifices, etc.). It's nothing really comparable to your acquaintance's situation. Not to mention that what God might have done to them for "falling from Grace", if they did, is not stated in the passage. Therefore;

Therefore do not judge anything before the time, until the Lord should come, who will both enlighten the hidden things of darkness and will reveal the counsels of hearts, and then praise will come to each one from God. ​

It's similar to how you use the phrase "spit you out of God's mouth" as a synonym for "lose your salvation" in your frequent anti-OSAS posts. When in fact, they are NOT synonyms according to Jesus' context of the one time He used the phrase in Rev 3. It meant Jesus was not pleased with them, sure. But de-salvation NO! And you do it a lot.

Honestly, I get a chuckle out of it.

every time you do.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

technically, he's right. unless you were an Orthodox Jew (impossible today, post 70 A.D. If not the day the vail tore), converted to Christ's Way, then fall back into the Orthodox Jewish Way, then you can't "fall from Grace" according to Paul's definition in Gal 5. (Which is the only place Paul uses it)

Okay, so this is this one exception to OSAS doctrine, and one that can never occur ever again, right? The Galatian church of old really could lose their salvation, correct? But the bottom line is, you agree that these Galatians lost their salvation, or were going to lose it if they did not turn back to Christ, right? It's not a trick question. I just want to make sure I understand your argument so I don't get lambasted for having misunderstood it later when I make reference to it (you know how these forums work, lol).

It's nothing really comparable to your acquaintance's situation.

This person who I've been using as an example of turning away from God decided to do that on the basis of not wanting to obey God anymore in various things. These things had been a struggle for them and they did not agree with God about them.

Not to mention that what God might have done to them for "falling from Grace", if they did, is not stated in the passage.

Well, I think it does tell us. Paul said Christ would be of no effect to them toward justification, and that they are/were cut off from Christ. A person who does not belong to God anymore (because they seek justification elsewhere) no longer has God's favor in daily living. That's serious for someone who once knew and enjoyed God's grace in daily living. He makes this point in chapter 3.

Therefore;

Therefore do not judge anything before the time, until the Lord should come, who will both enlighten the hidden things of darkness and will reveal the counsels of hearts, and then praise will come to each one from God. ​

Well, I know that OSAS says no can know if they themselves are saved or not until the Day of Judgment, if that's the point you're making.

It's similar to how you use the phrase "spit you out of God's mouth" as a synonym for "lose your salvation" in your frequent anti-OSAS posts. When in fact, they are NOT synonyms according to Jesus' context of the one time He used the phrase in Rev 3. It meant Jesus was not pleased with them, sure. But de-salvation NO! And you do it a lot.
every time you do.

I've been trying to keep you from going off topic when you bring this up. There is a thread where you can continue to argue your point. But to keep it on topic, your interpretation defies the entire context of the letters to the churches in Revelation. I suppose you think Christ's coming being as a thief in the night to someone is really just another reference to God's loving discipline, right?

The bottom line being, you can think whatever you want about what being spewed out of the mouth of God means, but you can't change who it is that gets the shock of their lives at Christ's coming (it's not those who belong to Christ) and what those people were when Jesus was warning them about avoiding that shock.

 

[follower]

I reckon answering a question with a question is ... ....

Yeshua and many Jews then and now reply to a question with a question... ... ...
...? to ? ... -->
Mark 11:27-33King James Version (KJV)
27 And they come again to Jerusalem: and as he was walking in the temple, there come to him the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders,28 And say unto him, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things?29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things.30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.31 And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then did ye not believe him?32 But if we shall say, Of men; they feared the people: for all men counted John, that he was a prophet indeed.33 And they answered and said unto Jesus, We cannot tell. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.

for instance, to the title question of the thread
"The reason you cant lose your salvation is?....."
Yeshua might reply ---
Can salvation be lost if it's not given by the Father ?

of course, of note, and as a strict rule, Yeshua didn't ask any question or make any statement on His Own, but only what He heard from His Father, thus He spoke.

John 14:10King James Version (KJV)
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

 

[JLB]

CHESSMAN SAID -

My point was/is that every time you use the term "fall from grace" and reference Gal 5 as if it's a synonym for a gentile Christian "losing their salvation" due to their rejection/unbelief, Paul would NOT agree with your misapplication of his phrase there. Clearly and plainly he was addressing a much different context/situation than you are when you use it toward us Gentiles and unbelievers. Those people WERE believers.

So it is your opinion that Paul, in writing to the Church in Galatia, is only addressing Jews?

Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised...

Jews were circumcised when 8 days old!

Paul is addressing Gentile Christians in Galatia.

They were already Christians that He Himself had raised up and spent time with.

He is warning these Christians, not to be mislead by Judaizers who would cause them to fall away from Grace.

Heed these words of admonition to all Christians -

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21


...works of the flesh...will not inherit the kingdom of God.

There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1

... walk in the flesh...condemnation

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11


Chessman, it looks as you have misapplied Paul's word, not Jethro.


JLB

 

[Jethro Bodine]

So it is your opinion that Paul, in writing to the Church in Galatia, is only addressing Jews?

Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised...

Jews were circumcised when 8 days old!

Paul is addressing Gentile Christians in Galatia.

Okay, nice going. Thanks for stealing my thunder.

Chessman (secretly I call him DominoDude) has no choice now but to concede that a believer really can lose his salvation. Even if he wants to argue that only happens in the narrow context of relying on something else for justification once you've been justified through Christ.

 

[JLB]

Okay, nice going. Thanks for stealing my thunder.

Chessman (secretly I call him DominoDude) has no choice now but to concede that a believer really can lose his salvation. Even if he wants to argue that only happens in the narrow context of relying on something else for justification once you've been justified through Christ.

Sorry.

I would rather be on the other side of this thing, as it makes me uncomfortable, that is to say my flesh.

I don't think any of us want to think we can lose our salvation.

There is a balance to God's word.

I find that the admonition from the Spirit through the Apostles to us is walking in the Spirit.

Dwelling in the Spirit.

Obeying His Voice.

Being led by the Spirit.

That is where our effort is.

Not trying to "earn" or "keep" our Salvation by the ability of the flesh.

I believe at some point, the Spirit of Christ in us would express the same works that He did.

Why would we expect the Spirit of Christ in us to be different that He was in Jesus or Paul?

I myself really have no excuse, except to turn from this world and spend more and more time in His Presence and strive to hear His Voice and be led by His Spirit.

More and more I find myself hungering and thirsting for more of Him.

The more I repent of fleshly and carnal habits, the more I hunger and thirst for righteousness.

The more I desire to invest in the spirit within and the more I desire to be set apart and consecrated to Him.

Everything I write about this subject is directed to myself first...

I will be the first one not to inherit the kingdom if I don't walk in these things.

I can only strive for the crucified life...not looking back.

Personally, I don't think anyone has presented this message more eloquently than you.

I can't believe anyone would not see how well you have shown from the scriptures, over and over the truth about this very uncomfortable message.

Well done servant of the Most High God!


JLB

 

[Kidron]

Sorry.



Everything I write about this subject is directed to myself first...

I will be the first one not to inherit the kingdom if I don't walk in these things.

I can only strive for the crucified life...not looking back.



JLB

You have just qualified yourself as a person who is trying to SAVE YOURSELF.

Hello MR Galatians 5:4.


Listen to yourself.
Not one word you wrote has anything to do with the Cross, the Blood, or Jesus.
Everything you wrote is....."what i do, what i do, what i do"......TO TRY TO SAVE MYSELF".

So, you need to find out why the Gift of Righteousness is called a "FREE GIFT" and recognize that what you are describing as your EFFORT to save yourself, is a "FAIL".




K

 

[JLB]

You have just qualified yourself as a person who is trying to SAVE YOURSELF.

Hello MR Galatians 5:4.


Listen to yourself.
Not one word you wrote has anything to do with the Cross, the Blood, or Jesus.
Everything you wrote is....."what i do, what i do, what i do"......TO TRY TO SAVE MYSELF".

So, you need to find out why the Gift of Righteousness is called a "FREE GIFT" and recognize that what you are describing as your EFFORT to save yourself, is a "FAIL".




K

Only Jesus can save.

Only Jesus can continue to keep me saved, as I continue to believe.

The Spirit within yearns jealously...

4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously"? 6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble." 7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. James 4:4-8


Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God...

Is this directed to unsaved?

Is James writing this to the world, or the Church?

Is James admonishing the unsaved world to draw near to God?


JLB

 

[JLB]

You have just qualified yourself as a person who is trying to SAVE YOURSELF.

Hello MR Galatians 5:4.


Listen to yourself.
Not one word you wrote has anything to do with the Cross, the Blood, or Jesus.
Everything you wrote is....."what i do, what i do, what i do"......TO TRY TO SAVE MYSELF".

So, you need to find out why the Gift of Righteousness is called a "FREE GIFT" and recognize that what you are describing as your EFFORT to save yourself, is a "FAIL".




K

Yes Brother!


That is where our effort is.

Not trying to "earn" or "keep" our Salvation by the ability of the flesh.

I believe at some point, the Spirit of Christ in us would express the same works that He did.


Did you read my post.

Do you read Jethro's post's.

I can't help think maybe you are possibly missing something from what He writes.

Sorry if Im wrong.


JLB

 

[chessman]

Chessman, it looks as you have misapplied Paul's word, not Jethro.
JLB

If it looks that way to you, that’s on you. Just because you missed the fact that I was addressing only the phrase "fall from Grace" not the whole letter is not a good reason to think I’ve misapplied Paul’s other words in the letter. I was merely pointing out that the phrase cannot logically be applied to his acquaintance's situation. Yet he does.

Okay, so this is this one exception to OSAS doctrine, and one that can never occur ever again, right?

I don't understand your question. Frankly, I couldn't care less about the "OSAS doctrine" or its exceptions which is probably why I'm not sure what you mean. However, I do care that I use the phrase "fall from Grace" properly and in accordance to how Paul used it. When debating reasons someone might lose their salvation I don't see how Gal 5 is applicable. However, if you ever run across a Christian that desires to circumcise himself, then bring up Gal 5 to him. Maybe it will help him not sever himself.

It still looks to me as if your examples have no desire whatsoever to be circumcised. Right? Which is why I asked you if they did first. Like dominos falling, if the reason your examples have become un-saved in your view is that they got circumcised and started killing bulls, etc. then you might be able to apply “feel from Grace” to their situation. Otherwise, it's n/a.

So I asked if that was the case, first. Then since you answered no, it started the dominos on their way to the logical conclusion that, that passage really doesn’t apply to them then. See how this works? I doubt it.

The Galatian church of old really could lose their salvation, correct?

It doesn't say they lost their salvation or were about to. Simply that they were about to sever themselves, umm cut themselves. Frankly, I don't know what God will do to those that "fell from Grace" there, if any did. The reason I posted the 1 Cor 4 passage is I think Paul is saying that sins (recognized ones or unrecognized ones that even Paul might have) are Jesus' business to deal with as He chooses when He judges people's hearts. Thus, if these "fallen from Grace", severed and circumcised God believers still loved God in their hearts, yet got circumcised anyway out of ignorance, I cannot imagine God would administer Wrath to them, but maybe??? That's His business.

But the bottom line is, you agree that these Galatians lost their salvation, or were going to lose it if they did not turn back to Christ, right?

No, I don't agree with that. So thanks for asking if it was correct. I would agree if Paul would have said they were going to or did lose their salvation if they got circumcised, etc. He doesn't say it though. I thought your argument for OSAS was based on people that rejected God outright, not people that still loved God.
But I do know that Gal 5 has little to nothing to do with people that hate God (after their salvation) as these people loved God (and Christ, BTW). They were merely confused about circumcision as they had people telling them a bunch of bull.

If these God lovers attempted circumcision (severe themselves from Christ, pardon the pun), I don't know what God would do with them in the end.

This person who I've been using as an example of turning away from God decided to do that on the basis of not wanting to obey God anymore in various things. These things had been a struggle for them and they did not agree with God about them.

okay, I'm glad you mentioned that. Maybe you can see all the more how the Gal 5 "falling from Grace" by circumcision phrase is NOT applicable to them, then. The Galatians were being taught to do precisely the opposite thing. They were being taught by some to continue to obey God's laws of circumcision, not hate God's laws. It’s 180 off from your example. That’s my point!

I've been trying to keep you from going off topic when you bring this up. There is a thread where you can continue to argue your point. But to keep it on topic, your interpretation defies the entire context of the letters to the churches in Revelation.

That’s not staying on topic, that’s simply stating your opinion. You are the one that brings Rev 3's vomit you out, up in these OSAS threads very, very often. For the same reason "fall from Grace" is not applicable to your examples, that phrase is not either. Their message in which we find the phrase "vomit you out of my mouth" is about Christians that still loved Christ only that they thought their wealth was self-derived. And Jesus gives them a rebuke for it by issuing advice to them:

advise, nakedness, blindness ,love, reprove, discipline and repentance. are all in context​

You bring in anti-salvation into Rev 3's context just like you do God rejecters into Gal 5's context. I agree the phrase “vomit you out of my mouth” is off topic to the discussion of losing one’s salvation. So If you don’t bring it up again, I will not.

Chessman (secretly I call him DominoDude)…

The rest of your logic is about as good as this statement.
Brother, when you post something on a public Forum, it’s no secret.