The Symbol of the Bride.

[for_his_glory]

Yes I agree totally. It’s a future POSSIBILITY. But it’s not a done deal we can all claim is true no matter how we behave. Don’t you agree?

It's only a done deal when this corruptible puts on incorruption, and this mortal puts on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. This only happens when Christ returns an in a twinkling of an eye we who are Christ own will be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

All of us have some truth, some views and some theologies, but what we mostly have is common ground that is our love for the Lord. We all get it wrong at times, we all get it right at times. Not everyone is on the same level of learning.

Well, I would say that some people have a fairly good handle on truth in matters of the Kingdom of God. Those kind I gravitate to because I learn from them as they really know of what they speak.

Some people have snips of truth that light up a discussion on occasion.

Some people have barely any understanding that matches the truth as God knows it to be.

I know this view is not at all democratic which grants equal understanding to everyone whether they actually understand or not.

Heaven is not a democracy. It runs on truth.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

It's only a done deal when this corruptible puts on incorruption, and this mortal puts on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. This only happens when Christ returns an in a twinkling of an eye we who are Christ own will be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54.

It’s like meeting chaff blowing in the face. One asks a concrete question and one gets religious words whose exact meaning no one knows.

 

[for_his_glory]

It’s like meeting chaff blowing in the face. One asks a concrete question and one gets religious words whose exact meaning no one knows.

What I posted in #101 is completely taken from what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:51-58 and not just religious words that have no meaning. Concreate questions can only be answered by concreate scripture. It's just how others interpret the concreate of scripture that needs to be questioned at times.

 

[Marilyn C]

Ok but take care in stepping in to “help.” I wasn’t talking about me personally but I can see how you could read that into it. People today have a hard time talking abstractly and tend to focus on themselves alone. It’s easy to see how you would assume that from the culture we live in.

I’m very willing to do so and thank you for your response. You cannot know that much about me and it easy to assume factors commonly found.

Since you are so kind and open, I will share a bit about myself. I’ve walked with the Lord since childhood which is why I don’t relate to being dead in sin in my “former life.” I was pretty young when I experienced his forgiveness and cleansing. Anyway, my walk with Him and life is better than I had ever dreamed. I understand God and can explain His ways on matters that have been made clear to me which means not everything (we don’t live long enough for that to happen.) On a worldly level I haven’t much to show but that was never the level I sought. Loving God with your mind is deeply satisfying. Of course the rest too, but the mind has special challenges.

Bless you Marilyn. You have a good heart.

Thank you Dorothy for sharing. It certainly helps to get to know each other more.

Blessings, Marilyn.

 

[Marilyn C]

So it seems to me regarding the OP that we seem to all agree, (please correct me if wrong) that the Bride symbol is used for the New Jerusalem. This reveals God`s glory upon that city. (Rev. 21: 2, 11)

And as that city comes down out of heaven in the NHNE then it is not the Rev. 19: 7 group which is in the time of the Lord returning to earth in power and great glory, to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. (Rev. 19: 15)

So it is the `wife` we are looking at in Rev. 19: 7. We have had some discussion about the `righteous acts,` however I would like to also discuss God`s purpose. Sometimes we are busy with the details and tend to lose what God had planned.

So would anyone like to say why God is remarrying His wife?

And what purpose does God have for a `wife?`

regards, Marilyn.

 

[eddif]

So it seems to me regarding the OP that we seem to all agree, (please correct me if wrong) that the Bride symbol is used for the New Jerusalem. This reveals God`s glory upon that city. (Rev. 21: 2, 11)

And as that city comes down out of heaven in the NHNE then it is not the Rev. 19: 7 group which is in the time of the Lord returning to earth in power and great glory, to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. (Rev. 19: 15)

So it is the `wife` we are looking at in Rev. 19: 7. We have had some discussion about the `righteous acts,` however I would like to also discuss God`s purpose. Sometimes we are busy with the details and tend to lose what God had planned.

So would anyone like to say why God is remarrying His wife?

And what purpose does God have for a `wife?`

regards, Marilyn.

Probably too many different beans and too many different meats being cooked in the same vessel at the same time for some. I presume (dangerous) that the real issue is we do not live by food alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God. New covenant people can handle more complex discussions.

Revelation 3:20 kjv
20. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Some look mostly at the corporate body of Christ. Nothing wrong with that, usually. There is an individual aspect too. The tree of life is in the New Jerusalem to nurture / feed individuals.

Revelation 21:2 kjv
2. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

I do not have a long involved understanding of what I have said thus far.
2 Corinthians 11 warns of Satan coming as an angel of light to deceive. You are welcome to examine me.

The divorced wife remarried:
Romans 11.1 kjv
1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3. Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

All Jews were not terrible. The one new man needs the Jewish insight into the oracles of God.
IMHO he will keep his wife as a virgin when he remarries. The warning to the Gentiles is (do not be too high minded or you could be cut off).

Have I covered it all? No. Please post your stance.

eddif

 

[eddif]

Probably too many different beans and too many different meats being cooked in the same vessel at the same time for some. I presume (dangerous) that the real issue is we do not live by food alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God. New covenant people can handle more complex discussions.

Revelation 3:20 kjv
20. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Some look mostly at the corporate body of Christ. Nothing wrong with that, usually. There is an individual aspect too. The tree of life is in the New Jerusalem to nurture / feed individuals.

Revelation 21:2 kjv
2. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

I do not have a long involved understanding of what I have said thus far.
2 Corinthians 11 warns of Satan coming as an angel of light to deceive. You are welcome to examine me.

The divorced wife remarried:
Romans 11.1 kjv
1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3. Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

All Jews were not terrible. The one new man needs the Jewish insight into the oracles of God.
IMHO he will keep his wife as a virgin when he remarries. The warning to the Gentiles is (do not be too high minded or you could be cut off).

Have I covered it all? No. Please post your stance.

eddif

Finishing my thoughts:
Are we so special that we can be bitter at the returning wife? We as a wild branch were grafted in. A natural branch has a better chance. Rejoice that the one new man can dwell in unity. Not looking at male or female, bond or free, Jew or gentile,? long time poster or new member, or returning member.

eddif