The US, not the RCC is like Babylon of Old and Reigns over the Kings of the Earth, Rev.17:5,18

The US, not the RCC is like Babylon of Old and Reigns over the Kings of the Earth, Rev.17:5,18

 

[jamesdalbright]

As an evangelist you should be spreading the gospel of Jesus and not spending your time insulting both PERSONS, as in another thread, and DENOMINATIONS...since every denomination has something about it we might not agree with.

If you address yourself to the OP, fine.
If you intend to bash the CC and other members, you will soon be banned from this thread too.

The only one bashing anyone is you bashing me for telling the truth.

 

[GodsGrace]

The only one bashing anyone is you bashing me for telling the truth.

PLEASE CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE.
YOU ARE BREAKING TOS RULES.

DO NOT ADDRESS PERSONS.
ADDRESS ONLY THE TOPIC AT HAND.
THIS IS THE SECOND THREAD I KNOW OF IN WHICH YOU ARE BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO OTHERS.

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST IN THIS THREAD.
USE TALK WITH STAFF IF NECESSARY.

 

[jamesdalbright]

PLEASE CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE.
YOU ARE BREAKING TOS RULES.

DO NOT ADDRESS PERSONS.
ADDRESS ONLY THE TOPIC AT HAND.
THIS IS THE SECOND THREAD I KNOW OF IN WHICH YOU ARE BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO OTHERS.

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST IN THIS THREAD.
USE TALK WITH STAFF IF NECESSARY.

Lets get something straight, you called the simple well known and widely used RCC acronym a insult and started your problem. What I said about the RCC is the truth and by the Holy Spirit I testify to you that you will wish you hadn't stood up for the Catholic cult.

 

[GodsGrace]

Lets get something straight, you called the simple well known and widely used RCC acronym a insult and started your problem. What I said about the RCC is the truth and by the Holy Spirit I testify to you that you will wish you hadn't stood up for the Catholic cult.

This is not about the CC but about your attitude.
Please read and follow warnings.

This thread is being locked until further notice.

 

[GodsGrace]

follower

Why are you so mad at me?

 

[follower]

follower

Why are you so mad at me?

hahaha, or chuckle chuckle chuckle .....
Relax, I do not know you at all.

The condition of the world makes me mad.
The killing, the deception, the harm to infants , husbands and wives by the churches policies and practices,
by the government's rules and agencies,
by the charities (so-called) and by gossips,

all make me mad.

Somewhere it is written that God is mad, righteously, at those things that continue to deceive and bring harm,
and at those who have hearts full of perversion (HE Actually Truly Hates those who have hearts full of perversion).

Now at this time I do not remember what it was that I was mad at, or why. There is a time to be mad. And a different time , a time not to be mad.

For better or for worse, watching and hoping,
I'm mad that there is not easy to find a "safe" forum dis-allowing the false gospels and opposing the harmful teachings of false teachers .

 

[GodsGrace]

hahaha, or chuckle chuckle chuckle .....
Relax, I do not know you at all.

The condition of the world makes me mad.
The killing, the deception, the harm to infants , husbands and wives by the churches policies and practices,
by the government's rules and agencies,
by the charities (so-called) and by gossips,

all make me mad.

Somewhere it is written that God is mad, righteously, at those things that continue to deceive and bring harm,
and at those who have hearts full of perversion (HE Actually Truly Hates those who have hearts full of perversion).

Now at this time I do not remember what it was that I was mad at, or why. There is a time to be mad. And a different time , a time not to be mad.

For better or for worse, watching and hoping,
I'm mad that there is not easy to find a "safe" forum dis-allowing the false gospels and opposing the harmful teachings of false teachers .

You're not going to find that forum.
This is about as good as you'll get.
The reason is that there are plenty of ideas out there. At least on this forum members tend to be nice and treat others with respect and some even with love.

Just so you know because I hope you stick around,,,I'm not Catholic, but denigrating persons or denominations is just not accepted here. You'll come to appreciate this.

We allow dissenting views from our statement of faith because we do not censore,,,and because it's good for those reading along to hear some truth and not only incorrect theology.

Glad you wrote back.

 

[reddogs]

Her description starts at verse 1.

The purpose of a harlot is to go out into the world and collect from the world in this case error of other gods and religions... then like the leven of the pharisees and a harlot it infects the Truth with error... and ways of other religions... clearly God tells the Israelites to destroy the high places and their gods

If you take up their ways might as well take up their gods too

The problem is the United States doesnt come up at the timeline the prophecy gives which is at the time of the Roman Empire, the Roman Catholic church does. And the United States comes at the end after the Beast has received its wound and recovered, and we see it rising and becoming a power that the world wonders after in its own right, but it is the "image" and not the Beast. Lets look at what Revelation means by the expression “the image of the beast”? Lets look in Rev 13 to begin..

Revelation 13:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Revelation 13:11-15 King James Version (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

This shows the beast of Revelation and depicts the attempt of an unholy trinity to counteract God’s goal for the plan of salvation. We see another beast, recreating the image of the first beast on Earth. The image of the beast is an end time entity, comprised of a power who reflects the character of the dragon and of the first beast, and has religious-economic-political power to impose its will and false worship on Earth. We see the corruption America brings to the world (and we are seeing it very clearly today) as it makes a image of the beast, the Beast which is the end time Babylon the Great of Revelation 17-18, and the image of the beast and its characteristics is best identified with this entity.


The image of the beast is basically powee which will duplicate the form and behavior of the beast power in Revelation 13. It will convince many that its words and purpose are true despite not being in full harmony with Scripture and will persuade the people of the earth, believers and non-believers, to follow the religious-political power which is the Beast. The lamblike beast will also begin speaking like a dragon and exercising the power of the beast, showing that it will become as intolerant especially in setting aside of laws and foundational liberties. We are seeing it today as America leads the world in what can only be called a repeat of the Roman Catholic church fight against and persecution of Gods people, it is happening right before our eyes, just as prophesized...

 

[RBDERRICK]

Her description starts at verse 1.

The purpose of a harlot is to go out into the world and collect from the world in this case error of other gods and religions... then like the leven of the pharisees and a harlot it infects the Truth with error... and ways of other religions... clearly God tells the Israelites to destroy the high places and their gods

If you take up their ways might as well take up their gods too

The US, not the RCC is like Babylon of Old and Reigns over the Kings of the Earth,

Not since Biden took over the White House.

Also, the king of Babylon never fought wars of defence, until Cyrus invaded. Until then his wars were always for imperial expansion of territory, which of course they never gave back after winning...

Also Babylon was a city on earth, and in the Bible, and in Revelation.

Also again, the only certain city we know of Revelation, is Jersualem, that great city spiritually Sodom and Egypt. (Rev 11:8)

Trying to 'figuyre out' prophecy through personal intellect and observation, has been the boondogle of confusion since the beginning, when the Lord prophesied the fight between the seed of the woman and of the serpent.

 

[RBDERRICK]

I'm mad that there is not easy to find a "safe" forum dis-allowing the false gospels and opposing the harmful teachings of false teachers .

People who only look for ways to disagree with others, usually don't seek 'safe' spaces. Nor should they got to firing ranges.

 

[RR144]

Then why do some Catholic church's have a sign outside that reads Roman Catholic Church while others just have Catholic Church?

One only needs to google "Roman Catholic Church" to see the dozens of photos and links to the Romans Catholic Churches, including the Vatican

 

[Ezekiel]

Her description starts at verse 1.

The purpose of a harlot is to go out into the world and collect from the world in this case error of other gods and religions... then like the leven of the pharisees and a harlot it infects the Truth with error... and ways of other religions... clearly God tells the Israelites to destroy the high places and their gods

If you take up their ways might as well take up their gods too

I'm so upset that nobody understands scriptures. While every one points their finger at other churches you have other fingers point back at you. All churches have and are affected with Babylon.

Revelations
17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

All governments are affected and you the church run with these governments.

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

Revelation 18:10

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Not only Babylon will will be destroyed but Earth also. God remembers when He destroyed Babylon then in turn destroys Earth.

Revelation 16:19

And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

 

[JLB]

The US, not the RCC is like Babylon of Old and Reigns over the Kings of the Earth, Rev.17:5,18

The RCC sits on the 7 hills of Rome.

The RCC promotes the mystery religion of Babylon.


There are many wonderful Catholic people.

However -

The religion of Catholicism is a perversion of what Jesus taught.





JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

One only needs to google "Roman Catholic Church" to see the dozens of photos and links to the Romans Catholic Churches, including the Vatican

Yes, I have many disturbing pics. When studying the scriptures and the history of the Roman government before and after their deadly wound came and then was healed they have always worked underground disguising themselves as Christians, but yet continue to persecute Christians, even today up to the time of Christ return.

 

[Ezekiel]

I'm so upset that nobody understands scriptures. While every one points their finger at other churches you have other fingers point back at you. All churches have and are affected with Babylon.

Revelations
17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

All governments are affected and you the church run with these governments.

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

Revelation 18:10

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Not only Babylon will will be destroyed but Earth also. God remembers when He destroyed Babylon then in turn destroys Earth.

Revelation 16:19

And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

But before He destroys Babylon Jesus will gather His own.

Revelation 18
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

After that John sees more from Babylon and that is all the saints of God. Wow Babylon must have a lot of saints

19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

Keep reading then Jesus speaks about the bride on Earth.

 

[for_his_glory]

The Catholic Church is a cult. The Bible says when we genuinely believe in Jesus we are baptized with the Holy Spirit and thereby into Jesus going to hell for our sinning, and as a result sinning is removed from we genuine believers in the resurrection.

There are many Spiritually born again Catholics that do not believe some of the Catholic doctrines, but like the structure of Mass. I am not advocating for the RCC.

Sin is only removed from us when we humble ourselves before Jesus and repent of our sin.

The problem is the United States doesnt come up at the timeline the prophecy gives which is at the time of the Roman Empire, the Roman Catholic church does. And the United States comes at the end after the Beast has received its wound and recovered, and we see it rising and becoming a power that the world wonders after in its own right, but it is the "image" and not the Beast. Lets look at what Revelation means by the expression “the image of the beast”? Lets look in Rev 13 to begin..

Revelation 13:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Revelation 13:11-15 King James Version (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

This shows the beast of Revelation and depicts the attempt of an unholy trinity to counteract God’s goal for the plan of salvation. We see another beast, recreating the image of the first beast on Earth. The image of the beast is an end time entity, comprised of a power who reflects the character of the dragon and of the first beast, and has religious-economic-political power to impose its will and false worship on Earth. We see the corruption America brings to the world (and we are seeing it very clearly today) as it makes a image of the beast, the Beast which is the end time Babylon the Great of Revelation 17-18, and the image of the beast and its characteristics is best identified with this entity.


The image of the beast is basically powee which will duplicate the form and behavior of the beast power in Revelation 13. It will convince many that its words and purpose are true despite not being in full harmony with Scripture and will persuade the people of the earth, believers and non-believers, to follow the religious-political power which is the Beast. The lamblike beast will also begin speaking like a dragon and exercising the power of the beast, showing that it will become as intolerant especially in setting aside of laws and foundational liberties. We are seeing it today as America leads the world in what can only be called a repeat of the Roman Catholic church fight against and persecution of Gods people, it is happening right before our eyes, just as prophesized...

For everyone's consideration. This is not adding to or taking away from scripture, but what will come to fruition.

This is taken from John Daniel's book "The Grand Design Exposed" granddesignexposed.com

TWO OCCULT POWERS UNITED FOR FINAL WORLD CONTROL
THE BEAST (Rome) and HIS IMAGE (U.S.A.)
In Scripture, Rev.13:1-18, two world powers are described. The first, which received worship and ruled brutally for over a thousand years, but then lost her temporal power to Protestantism, is fittingly named in Scripture, the “Beast”. It is the world’s greatest hidden Occult influence of Rome.

The second power described as the “Image” to the beast, is the U.S.A. As a daughter is the splitting image of her mother (harlot), so the U.S.A. was quietly founded in the ‘Image’
of Rome and its Occultism by Jesuits and Freemasons. The long range purpose was a ‘grand design’ to once again bring the world under the control and tyranny of the Occult Sun system of Rome, through what we know today as the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Revelation 13:15 - And he (USA) had power (Influence Legislation) to give life (Establish former persecution) unto the image to the beast, (USA Church and State) that the image to the beast (Protestant USA Church and State) should both speak, (Legislation) and cause that as many as would not worship the image (Protestant church and state system with enforced worship in America) should be killed. This predicts a dramatic change in America. Persecution of God’s people for refusing to go along with forced laws of worship. Revelation 17 unites with 10 kings to make war on Gods chosen people.

Revelation 13:16 - And he (USA Church and State power) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (mark of Beast, or mark of Rome’s power in their right hand, or foreheads: (Note: God also puts a seal in His people's forehead but its not visible, Revelation 14:1).

Revelation 13:17 - And that no man might buy or sell, (USA boycott all refusing to worship the national and world church and state system) save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name being 666.

Revelation 13:18 - Here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: (Rome's Power) for it is the number of a man and his number is six hundred threescore and six: 666.

So let’s consider again, as the angel of God says unto John, “And there are seven kings (or kingdoms); five are fallen, and “one is”, and the other is not yet come; (even today, it still has not yet come) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.” (a literal 42 months or 1260 literal days) “And the beast “that was”, and “is not”, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Revelation 17:10&11)

I will also add this to what John Daniel's has written. Every nation will come under the dictatorship when the son of perdition takes his seat on the very ground where once housed the Temple of God in Jerusalem who indwelled it, but no longer dwells in Temples made by hand, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Acts 7:48, 49; 17:24.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I’m inclined to think scripture is referring to the USA or whatever nation replaces us as the dominant empire…

 

[RR144]

I think the problem with some here is that they see much of Daniel and Revelation as yet future, when much of has has been fulfilled.

 

[RBDERRICK]

Her description starts at verse 1.

The purpose of a harlot is to go out into the world and collect from the world in this case error of other gods and religions... then like the leven of the pharisees and a harlot it infects the Truth with error... and ways of other religions... clearly God tells the Israelites to destroy the high places and their gods

If you take up their ways might as well take up their gods too

I believe democrats are the enemy to life and freedom, as much as the next American, but I wouldn't rate them as highly as Mystery Babylon the Great.

Although they practice a form of her deceptions, they aren't near as mysterious a Great Babylon. I mean, they're pretty upfront about their dictatorial marxist aspirations, and modern liberal subversion of their own nations.

 

[Rookie]

I believe democrats are the enemy to life and freedom, as much as the next American, but I wouldn't rate them as highly as Mystery Babylon the Great.

Although they practice a form of her deceptions, they aren't near as mysterious a Great Babylon. I mean, they're pretty upfront about their dictatorial marxist aspirations, and modern liberal subversion of their own nations.

Democrats and Republicans are just a facade to make us think that there's two opposing political parties and democracy, when really and truly they're all just one. I guarantee Kamala and Trump are backstage somewhere she could be laughing about how foolish we all are.

You're not going to find that forum.
This is about as good as you'll get.
The reason is that there are plenty of ideas out there. At least on this forum members tend to be nice and treat others with respect and some even with love.

Just so you know because I hope you stick around,,,I'm not Catholic, but denigrating persons or denominations is just not accepted here. You'll come to appreciate this.

We allow dissenting views from our statement of faith because we do not censore,,,and because it's good for those reading along to hear some truth and not only incorrect theology.

Glad you wrote back.

Wondering is goonnnee