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These Signs Will Follow Those Who Believe (Mark 16:17)

They were for a sign, sign done, now it is lying signs and wonders that remain.


1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
That is what I meant by the Toronto Blessing, but there are people who are not enslaved by Satan.
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Our course they are not, as he plain states they have no power, but only a “form” of godliness, because they resist the Holy Spirit power; the baptism with the Holy Spirit; THE ONLY GOD ORDAINED WAY FOR US TO HAVE POWER.

JLB
They deny God's power by their actions---the selfish acts Paul listed, not by denying God works signs and wonders. That is the crux of Paul's argument, and you ignore it.
 
That is what I meant by the Toronto Blessing, but there are people who are not enslaved by Satan.
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Everybody is enslaved by satan who cant pray to escape him, and it is not done by not praying to avoid the hour of temptation on all the world now.



2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
 
They deny God's power by their actions---the selfish acts Paul listed, not by denying God works signs and wonders. That is the crux of Paul's argument, and you ignore it.


We have one thing warned for us and fulfilled, the vain talkers who are the many false prophets deceiving many, who else does false signs and lying wonders but satan to fulfil that prediction God gave us about this ending time now.




Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
 
I guess you are not focusing on what the Lord told us about THESE TIMES.


They are common verses, but here again..




2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.



2 Peter 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
True, but it is not all gloom and doom. There is no need to be a Jeremiah, there will always be a remanent to sit at the wedding feast. Remember five of the ten virgins made it.
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True, but it is not all gloom and doom. There is no need to be a Jeremiah, there will always be a remanent to sit at the wedding feast. Remember five of the ten virgins made it.
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Not quite.

Five of each are wheat and tares in equal proportions, as well as goats and sheep, again equal proportions.


The remnant do not speak lies, they speak the words the Son of God did, which were the words of the Father ( they know His words in righteousness, all of them)...




Isaiah 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.

Zephaniah 3:13 The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.


John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.



That is how I recognize who hears, and who does not immediately.
 
We have one thing warned for us and fulfilled, the vain talkers who are the many false prophets deceiving many, who else does false signs and lying wonders but satan to fulfil that prediction God gave us about this ending time now.




Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
When I was deceived by experiences, i too ignored the bible. The more a person follows their experences, the less they follow the Bible. That is implicit in Paul's words bolded below:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.
16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace,
17 comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work. (2 Thess. 2:9-17 NKJ)
 
True, but it is not all gloom and doom. There is no need to be a Jeremiah, there will always be a remanent to sit at the wedding feast. Remember five of the ten virgins made it.
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Jeremiah cant be shown in a negative light, and you think you can be in a true light ?

The prophets were persecuted, till death, we are blessed if we are LIKE THEM, not UNLIKE THEM( in every way)..


Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
 
When I was deceived by experiences, i too ignored the bible. The more a person follows their experences, the less they follow the Bible. That is implicit in Paul's words bolded below:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.
16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace,
17 comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work. (2 Thess. 2:9-17 NKJ)


The love of the truth is to not work hate to others, and to hate your own life instead, lose it and give all away..


Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

1 John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
 
Issues, issues, issues. Whatever happened to praising God, looking into His glorious face, singing Psalms and hymns, revelling in His love. Where has all the joy gone? SEEK THE LORD NOW WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND.
God bless.
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Issues, issues, issues. Whatever happened to praising God, looking into His glorious face, singing Psalms and hymns, revelling in His love. Where has all the joy gone? SEEK THE LORD NOW WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND.
God bless.
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Do you not see the words I just posted ( you showed you didn't see them)

How the rejoicing comes in the day when our name was cast out as evil, for the Son of mans sake. ( to have a reward of life in Heaven and not life on earth which is the rich mans consolation prize)

That it is woe to those who laugh now, they shall end up mourning and weeping ( we cry now as Christ was as man of sorrows..




Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
 
Jesus sang a hymm just before they were murdering Him, as true worship ( in the Spirit) is by laying our life down, for joy ( gladness) above our fellows..



Matthew 26:30 And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.
31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.

Hebrews 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
 
U should take the time to proof read. The above is incoherent.
That is why I gave the verses, to show how to lose our life and to hate it ( not love our life)


John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
 
If nothing else, at least I highlighted how many people can speak in the name of the Lord, but who but Jesus Christ lays His life down for us ?

The most the talkers on the forums can offer is, to take our time off us, and to make sure we believe in vanity( talk) instead of Christ( love in deed and truth)
 
Issues, issues, issues. Whatever happened to praising God, looking into His glorious face, singing Psalms and hymns, revelling in His love. Where has all the joy gone? SEEK THE LORD NOW WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND.
God bless.
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Amen ! :goodpost

Having the mulligrubs and saying woe is me is no place to be !
 
What "gifts" are false prophets giving out ? :confused


First the false prophets/teachers boast of their false gift, THEY ARE CLOUDS WITHOUT RAIN.

THESE ARE WELLS WITHOUT WATER.

CLOUDS CARRIED ABOUT WITH A TEMPEST.

SPEAKING GREAT SWELLING WORDS OF VANITY.

ALLURING THOSE WHO HAD CLEAN ESCAPED, PROMISING THEM LIBERTY.

SPOTS IN FEASTS OF CHARITY.

CLOUDS THEY ARE, WITHOUT WATER, CARRIED ABOUT OF WINDS.

THEY ARE TREES WHOSE FRUIT WHITHERS, WITHOUT FRUIT.




Proverbs 25:14 Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.

2 Peter 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
 
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