Thousand year day teachings gaining steam

[daninthelionsden]

You are talking about a battle on the earth plane,

I hopefully am talking about a battle of principalities and powers in high places?

Ephesians 6:12 kjv
12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

eddif

I think as godly signs are given, simultaneously, creation (including Man and his ways) will unravel. The creator is on a collision course with His creation. As we near the end, though our hearts and minds must grow as steadfast as our spirit does with Christ, we are upon this Earth to serve as the personification of the Lord. We cannot stand idly by waiting for our heavenly cab ride outta here while innocent children are harvested by the tens of thousands by the Freemason (the personification of Satan). We would be remiss to think we are "above" such things. Christ came knocking 3 times and the man turned Him away each time. While here we must act here......just not be of here.

 

[eddif]

I think as godly signs are given, simultaneously, creation (including Man and his ways) will unravel. The creator is on a collision course with His creation. As we near the end, though our hearts and minds must grow as steadfast as our spirit does with Christ, we are upon this Earth to serve as the personification of the Lord. We cannot stand idly by waiting for our heavenly cab ride outta here while innocent children are harvested by the tens of thousands by the Freemason (the personification of Satan). We would be remiss to think we are "above" such things. Christ came knocking 3 times and the man turned Him away each time. While here we must act here......just not be of here.

2 Corinthians 4:7 kjv
7. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Romans 7:24 kjv
24. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Matthew 19:26 kjv
26. But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

I think God was on a collision course. What Jesus did saved part of mankind.

(whosoever will may come).
Revelation 22:17 kjv

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[eddif]

2 Corinthians 4:5 kjv
5. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

The final change in us occurs at the last trump. The Resurrection has not already happened.

We are not yet what we shall be.

Does not sound powerful? Jesus comes in the clouds to finish the work.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[eddif]

This conversation is tough for me. If I throw too many stones I am guilty of being spiritually wrong. There was a period under the law when sinners were stoned to death (Moral Law?) .
Now we come against the Cause of the sin.

Can I write a book about all this? I doubt it, but that is your area. Humanity was moved from works of the law of Moses to the law being written in a new heart of flesh, and a new non carnal mind to the mind of Christ in us.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[daninthelionsden]

I've been watching a lot of videos by Jordan Peterson who helped me understand my personality type which, in turn, led me to videos about the INFJ personality. I believe I tend to get myself into causes which may be over my head as to practically and realistically bringing them into tangible results. I am no Tim Ballard and am poorly equipped to further the cause of destroying the purveyors of childhood sexual assault. I know that is off the original post, but it may very well explain why I migrate to the " thousand year day" teaching as this puts the end of days at our doorstep and I passionately hope this dying world as we've known it to end and the Day of the Lord to begin. Too many innocent children continue to be sacrificed while too many stand by. When I was being subjected to all forms of childhood abuse, I remember asking God " Where are all these Christians? And why are they hiding?" All I had was God. May the Lord be with all these kids as they must ask that very same question. Please come soon Lord.

 

[eddif]

I've been watching a lot of videos by Jordan Peterson who helped me understand my personality type which, in turn, led me to videos about the INFJ personality. I believe I tend to get myself into causes which may be over my head as to practically and realistically bringing them into tangible results. I am no Tim Ballard and am poorly equipped to further the cause of destroying the purveyors of childhood sexual assault. I know that is off the original post, but it may very well explain why I migrate to the " thousand year day" teaching as this puts the end of days at our doorstep and I passionately hope this dying world as we've known it to end and the Day of the Lord to begin. Too many innocent children continue to be sacrificed while too many stand by. When I was being subjected to all forms of childhood abuse, I remember asking God " Where are all these Christians? And why are they hiding?" All I had was God. May the Lord be with all these kids as they must ask that very same question. Please come soon Lord.

I think we are really closer in thought than we may see.
Ruling and reining with Jesus can the justice for all the Saints that were killed in far distant times past. Jesus judges and we may be those who say amen. Also all those who are destined to hell for sins they have not repented of (and received forgiveness for) are judged.

From a human point of view we are not talking about two hours. Is it a 1000 year day? I really do not know. There are several ways to look at the subject.

In eternity future. Jesus has returned authority to the Father.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[for_his_glory]

Man has been setting false dates for the return of Christ for centuries. Do not believe them them, Matthew 24:36-39.

This is my scenario of the end of days.

When the son of perdition takes his literal seat in the holy place of Jerusalem, 2Thessalonians 2:1-5, Jesus warned us to flee as He has a place prepared for us wherever we go to, Matthew 24:15-21; Rev 12:14. At this time many Christians will be taken captive that did not heed the warning to flee and if they will not denounce Christ and bow down and take the mark of this beast, who falsely claims peace and safety to all who takes its mark, they will die a martyr's death.

God's protection is absolute to those who are His own and escape into the wilderness as they trust in Christ to help meet their needs. Just as God told Moses to strike the rock for fresh water, Exodus 17:1-7, and sending manna down from heaven and providing Quail for meat, Exodus 16, so will be the same in the end of days, Philippians 4:19.

Nut shell scenario of what will happen during the first six trumpets of Rev Chapters 8-11 that leads up to the seventh trumpet and the 3 1/2 years events of Chapter 13 with the beast out of the sea and out of the earth that will cause all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death for the sake of Christ.

God's wrath is poured out into the world as chastisements for disobedience, but also a warning that man needs to repent and turn back to God before the door of salvation is closed forever when Christ returns.

Hail and fire can be likened unto meteors that fall from the sky. A third of the trees and all the green grass are burned up which makes a third part of the world with a shortage of oxygen in the air that is created from the carbon dioxide from the trees and living plants. Seeing that this is Global the intense fire and smoke from all the trees and grass burning can travel for miles causing much more damage throughout the nations. The trees that produce various healthy foods for our wellbeing will become scarce. The green grasses that would probably include crops of wheat, barley, corn and so forth will be destroyed causing a shortage in food. The animals we depend on as a food source will also die as they are left without vegetation they need to live on.

This great mountain burning with fire could be a large asteroid as the third part of the sea is destroyed along with sea life and the third part of the ships that sit in it. The third part of the sea turned to blood by reason of all the animal life that is killed and those men, women and children who are on these ships that are destroyed. Take into consideration the disease that would spread from all the rotted sea life that is rotting away washing up on the shore and the flesh of those who were burned along with the ships.

These ships will more than likely be types of fuel tankers, merchant, fishing and luxury cruises ships traveling the waters. With the third of these ships being destroyed means a third part of the world s fuel and food supply would be destroyed. There is only one ocean, but divided by four regions as being the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, and the Indian Ocean. This would be like the four corners of the earth as being North, South, East and West. The only difference between the ocean and the sea is that the ocean is much larger and feeds into the 108 seas around the world that also flow into our lakes and streams that provide us with fresh drinking water and other sources of food.

With the third part of the sun, moon and stars being darkened this will affect mans source of electricity and heat that is vital to keep a certain degree of the earth warm, and generated power in homes, hospitals and manufacturing plants including nuclear reactors.

Agriculture and navigation would be hard pressed as it takes the solar power from the sun to run the solar cells that produces the energy needed to run farming machinery and trucks to take the produce to manufacturing plants where the produce is then distributed to market.

Vehicles such as cars, ambulances, planes, trains and the list goes on need an energy source from the sun in order to run their engines. The darkness of the third part of the day would be roughly around eight hours of daylight being lost and total darkness of night as the moon and stars are illuminated by the sun at night. A flashlight would be useless to see in the dark as it needs energy from the sun to run the battery that turns the light on.

This much darkness would cause people to panic in the streets creating chaos as the love of many will wax cold, Matthew 24:12. Riots would break out causing looting and lose of life as those who have not will do anything in desperation to take from those who have much. IMO Marshal law will be enforced as we see history repeat itself with many Christians taken captive that did not flee and killed as they refuse to denounce Christ and take the mark. They will also die a martyr's death, Rev 6:9-11, especially vs. 11. Also we are not to fear what man can do to us, Matthew 10:28.

This is where the mark of the beast comes in during the seventh trumpet as this NWO is a Luciferian system of economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious power that gives power to the beast out of the earth being the son of perdition. By lying signs and wonders the beast will deceive the nations (people) into taking its mark. IMO I think the mark is the thoughts of our mind and the actions of our hands reaching out to this beast that promises peace, safety and provision as many will bow down and worship this beast who claims to be God.

After the 3 1/2 years of this Luciferian reign on earth that will try and wear out the saints, Daniel 7:25, then every eye will see Christ coming in the clouds with His army of angels that are then sent out to gather those saints who are alive at His coming and those who sleep in their graves, Matthew 24:29-31; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19:11-21. We are gathered up to the clouds as we receive our new glorified bodies in order to meet Jesus in the air. From the air He destroys the beast and false prophet by the brightness of His coming only speaking their destruction casting them into the lake of fire. Satan is bound for a time as Jesus sets out to destroy all the nations/people that followed after the beast. Satan is then released in a final attempt to destroy the saints as he sends his army out to surround the camp of the saints, but they are consumed by fire and Satan cast into the lake of fire. Then comes God's great white throne judgment and the books are opened and all are judged. Then this present heaven and earth are burned up and made new again and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven where we will be with the Lord forever.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

This all takes place on the last day (no more time after that being the last day when Christ returns) as Christ will smite the nations/people that have become His enemies as He rules judgement over them making the enemy His footstool. Revelation 20:1-8 is the only passage in the entire Bible that the premillennialists have as the basis for the 1000 year reign. Rev 20:4 doesn't speak about a 1000 year reign of Christ it says by the vision John received "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." It's not Christ that reigns 1000 years, but those who were killed for God's sake that reign with Christ 1000 years as 1000 being a figurative number, not a literal number as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2 Peter 3:8.

Zechariah 14:4 is in relationship to Isaiah 64:1 and 2Peter 3:10 as being the last day when Christ returns and makes an end to all abominations here on earth and all the elements will be burned up

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

What we need to watch for are the signs Jesus gave us right before He returns as no one knows the day or the hour of His return, Matthew 24:36-39.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[for_his_glory]

I believe the Last Trump happens after the Tribulation and it will indeed be crystal clear as it ushers in the Last Day/The Day of the Lord

There is no scripture that supports a seven year tribulation. The Bible never talks about a seven year great tribulation, but 3½ only as we will always have tribulations and persecutions until the day of judgment when Jesus returns in the air to gather those who have endured all the tribulations and persecutions for the witness of Christ and places them in safety until he makes an end to all the abominations of the world and Satan is cast into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation period (not a seven year) as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

This will be the time of the son of perdition taking his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12.

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[miamited]

What would be more dangerous for Christians....a sudden crash of signs or a slow turning up of the heat until it's too late?

Hi Daniel in the Lions’ Den

Too late for what? Are you proposing that there's something that we can do to stop God's clock that has established the time of the end? The end is going to come as a flood just as Jesus has told us. Yes, there will be many, many, many people caught unawares, which is also what Jesus told us. He said that we'd be doing just regular ordinary daily stuff as the last day rolled out its sunrise. But the born again believers, not necessarily the 'christians', will see the signs and be prepared.

I'm in full agreement that the days today are worse than they have likely ever been as far as love for God and His Son, but we don't really know yet, how bad it's going to get. But I expect that those yelling to stop!!!! Go back!!!!! Don't do this wicked thing!!!! Are wasting their breath.

However, in answer to your question, I believe that the Scriptures tell us that the man of lawlessness will be revealed before that day. Do you have someone in mind? The great Antichrist of antichrists will be made known before the curtain falls on this realm of existence. It is this Antichrist who will set the stage for the final battle.

Now, there have been a lot of purveyors of truth that have tried to make out what/who this Antichrist is and the things that will be happening, but as yet, I don't see any solid proof from anyone that the day of the rise of the Antichrist is among us. What say you?

God bless,
Ted

 

[for_his_glory]

In these perilous times we need not worry about what is going on in the world that is waxing worse, nor take no concern for ourself, but to be about our Fathers business witnessing Christ to others until Christ returns and at that time we are caught up to Him on the last day, John 5:28-29.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

2Tim 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Tim 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Tim 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Tim 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Tim 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2Tim 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
2Tim 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
2Tim 3:10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
2Tim 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Tim 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2Tim 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Tim 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
2Tim 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

 

[miamited]

In these perilous times we need not worry about what is going on in the world that is waxing worse, nor take no concern for ourself, but to be about our Fathers business witnessing Christ to others until Christ returns and at that time we are caught up to Him on the last day, John 5:28-29.

I agree. Why born again believers get themselves all wrapped up in the politics of this world is beyond me.

Now, that doesn't mean that believers can't discuss the issues going on with the world. But some on these boards get wound waaaaaay too tight over political positions and decisions. I've seen it get to the point of calling out derogatory names and displays of what really seem to be pretty ungodly attitudes about worldly politics.

LISTEN FOLKS!!! THE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL. IT'S ALREADY FORETOLD IN THE SCRIPTURES AND WE ARE GIVEN SEVERAL EXAMPLES THAT SHOW THAT THINGS IN THIS WORLD ARE GOING EXACTLY LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING. WAKE UP!!! GOD ISN'T INTERESTED IN ANY OF HIS CHILDREN SAVING THE WORLD OR FIXING WHAT'S BROKEN WITH POLITICAL SYSTEMS. GOD ASKS US TO TELL EVERYONE WE MEET ABOUT JESUS. BUT IF THEY DON'T LISTEN, THAT'S ALSO A FULLY EXPLAINED CONSEQUENCE OF OUR TEACHING. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO LISTEN, THEN WE SHOULD BAPTIZE THEM AND TEACH THEM ALL THAT JESUS HAS TAUGHT US.

God bless,
Ted

 

[daninthelionsden]

Hi Daniel in the Lions’ Den

Too late for what? Are you proposing that there's something that we can do to stop God's clock that has established the time of the end? The end is going to come as a flood just as Jesus has told us. Yes, there will be many, many, many people caught unawares, which is also what Jesus told us. He said that we'd be doing just regular ordinary daily stuff as the last day rolled out its sunrise. But the born again believers, not necessarily the 'christians', will see the signs and be prepared.

I'm in full agreement that the days today are worse than they have likely ever been as far as love for God and His Son, but we don't really know yet, how bad it's going to get. But I expect that those yelling to stop!!!! Go back!!!!! Don't do this wicked thing!!!! Are wasting their breath.

However, in answer to your question, I believe that the Scriptures tell us that the man of lawlessness will be revealed before that day. Do you have someone in mind? The great Antichrist of antichrists will be made known before the curtain falls on this realm of existence. It is this Antichrist who will set the stage for the final battle.

Now, there have been a lot of purveyors of truth that have tried to make out what/who this Antichrist is and the things that will be happening, but as yet, I don't see any solid proof from anyone that the day of the rise of the Antichrist is among us. What say you?

God bless,
Ted

I have to wonder why there is about 30min of silence in Heaven mentioned in Revelation. If a Heavenly day in Heaven is a thousand years on Earth then a Heavenly 1/2 hour would be approx 20 years......a delay.....caused by mass repentance?

 

[daninthelionsden]

I agree. Why born again believers get themselves all wrapped up in the politics of this world is beyond me.

Now, that doesn't mean that believers can't discuss the issues going on with the world. But some on these boards get wound waaaaaay too tight over political positions and decisions. I've seen it get to the point of calling out derogatory names and displays of what really seem to be pretty ungodly attitudes about worldly politics.

LISTEN FOLKS!!! THE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL. IT'S ALREADY FORETOLD IN THE SCRIPTURES AND WE ARE GIVEN SEVERAL EXAMPLES THAT SHOW THAT THINGS IN THIS WORLD ARE GOING EXACTLY LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING. WAKE UP!!! GOD ISN'T INTERESTED IN ANY OF HIS CHILDREN SAVING THE WORLD OR FIXING WHAT'S BROKEN WITH POLITICAL SYSTEMS. GOD ASKS US TO TELL EVERYONE WE MEET ABOUT JESUS. BUT IF THEY DON'T LISTEN, THAT'S ALSO A FULLY EXPLAINED CONSEQUENCE OF OUR TEACHING. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO LISTEN, THEN WE SHOULD BAPTIZE THEM AND TEACH THEM ALL THAT JESUS HAS TAUGHT US.

God bless,
Ted

The Word tells us to expose those who do wickedness.

 

[for_his_glory]

I agree. Why born again believers get themselves all wrapped up in the politics of this world is beyond me.

Now, that doesn't mean that believers can't discuss the issues going on with the world. But some on these boards get wound waaaaaay too tight over political positions and decisions. I've seen it get to the point of calling out derogatory names and displays of what really seem to be pretty ungodly attitudes about worldly politics.

LISTEN FOLKS!!! THE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL. IT'S ALREADY FORETOLD IN THE SCRIPTURES AND WE ARE GIVEN SEVERAL EXAMPLES THAT SHOW THAT THINGS IN THIS WORLD ARE GOING EXACTLY LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING. WAKE UP!!! GOD ISN'T INTERESTED IN ANY OF HIS CHILDREN SAVING THE WORLD OR FIXING WHAT'S BROKEN WITH POLITICAL SYSTEMS. GOD ASKS US TO TELL EVERYONE WE MEET ABOUT JESUS. BUT IF THEY DON'T LISTEN, THAT'S ALSO A FULLY EXPLAINED CONSEQUENCE OF OUR TEACHING. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO LISTEN, THEN WE SHOULD BAPTIZE THEM AND TEACH THEM ALL THAT JESUS HAS TAUGHT US.

God bless,
Ted

Amen brother.


2Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Peter 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

 

[for_his_glory]

I have to wonder why there is about 30min of silence in Heaven mentioned in Revelation. If a Heavenly day in Heaven is a thousand years on Earth then a Heavenly 1/2 hour would be approx 20 years......a delay.....caused by mass repentance?

Rev 8:1-5

And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.

The reason there was silence in heaven for about a half hour was God was silent for a short time while the angels were preparing for the seventh seal to be opened. First, seven angels are given their trumpets as each one would be sounded in Gods timing. Then John sees an angel with a golden censer and this angel is given much incense to burn before the altar of God as it sends up a sweet aroma to him. The sweet aroma is all the saints under the altar and all around the world worshiping and praising God’s name as they send up their prayers before Him.

And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

Fire usually represents Gods judgment. The censer that had incense in it and being a sweet aroma sent up to God filled with the prayers of the saints is now filled with fire and cast down to the earth. God is now ready to avenge those prayers of the saints as they wait for their fellowservants that are sealed with the seven spirits resting upon them.

These servants of God will also be persecuted to death during the time of the seven trumpet sounds as they keep the witness and testimony of God and preach to those that yet need to repent. Gods vengeful wrath is about to be released on all the earth as the voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake is Gods great power and authority ready to shake the earth as now is the time of his final wrath before the door of salvation is closed forever.

 

[daninthelionsden]

There is no scripture that supports a seven year tribulation. The Bible never talks about a seven year great tribulation, but 3½ only as we will always have tribulations and persecutions until the day of judgment when Jesus returns in the air to gather those who have endured all the tribulations and persecutions for the witness of Christ and places them in safety until he makes an end to all the abominations of the world and Satan is cast into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation period (not a seven year) as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

This will be the time of the son of perdition taking his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12.

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There is no scripture that supports a seven year tribulation. The Bible never talks about a seven year great tribulation, but 3½ only as we will always have tribulations and persecutions until the day of judgment when Jesus returns in the air to gather those who have endured all the tribulations and persecutions for the witness of Christ and places them in safety until he makes an end to all the abominations of the world and Satan is cast into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation period (not a seven year) as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

This will be the time of the son of perdition taking his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12.

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I sure hope this is correct as for the last several years I've told my family we only have to get through 3 1/2 years for food, water, shelter, medical access.

 

[miamited]

Hi for_his_glory

I believe the 7 year tribulation is a reference to Daniel's explanation of the final seven that many believe is yet to unfold. I happen to be one of them, but that's where it stems from. The angel speaking to Daniel explains that there will be a final seven of the 70 sevens. He breaks them down into groups. The first being 7 sevens when the wall will be rebuilt in troublous times. Then the 62 sevens which will see Messiah here with us. But there is yet a final seven and that's where we find that the great days of tribulation will likely be 3 1/2 years and 3 1/2 years. Starting with a decree or proclamation or some kind of treaty to be made. Much similar to the beginning point of Daniel's prophecy of when the 70 sevens clock would start. A decree was to be issued to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

But I think that's where the 7 years of tribulation comes from. It could be more or less.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno

Maybe it’s because I was raised in a center left mainline church ️. Things get really rough…then Jesus Christ comes back…no big emphasis on exact details.

At the international level persecution of Christians is heating up. Heavy globalization and bad economic policies are leading to the beginnings of fascism in many countries.

Jesus himself says that in the last days the love of many shall grow cold. So…

Secularization. Even in places where Christians are growing its…more modern a colder love. Here in the USA I’d argue that the unholy mix of bad politics and religion is both a reflection of and a cause of the love of many growing cold…or at least cooling off.

I dunno I’m torn between thinking that better disciple ing could help vs this is what Scripture has foretold…

The latter seems heartless but really…each individual answers for himself at judgment day. I can maybe water given the opportunity…

God gives the increase.

But yeah…dwindling church attendance growing heresy more open immorality in the established church ️ and then a renewed interest in the occult and drugs…so many drugs!…in the world , plus the bad mix of cruel materialism oppression of the poor and sexual immorality…

Outlook not good. Then again…we’re to look to Him not the world or ourselves…

 

[Mr. G Lee]

What is going to happen, none of us can stop,if you are right with the Lord,eat drink and be merry.Find a hobby,build model airplanes or maybe a diorama,anything,to many people dwelling on end time predictions.

If we cannot interpret the words "thousand years" why would we think our interpretation has any value? .

How would we know we have received the gospel understanding?

Not a salvation issue although it could end up . The end of a matter better than the beginning just as patience is better than pride.

The opening statement Revelations 1:1 set the interpretation standard .Not only inspired but also signified it The language of parables comparing the temporal things of men seen as a sign. . to the eternal things of God not seen .called the signified the hidden manna in 2:17)

Revelation 1King James Version The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

 

[for_his_glory]

I sure hope this is correct as for the last several years I've told my family we only have to get through 3 1/2 years for food, water, shelter, medical access.

If we are still alive when the son of perdition takes his literal seat in Jerusalem we have been told by Jesus in Matthew 24:15-21 to flee as no matter where we go God will provide for our needs like He did with the water, Quail and manna in the wilderness as we read in Exodus 16. This will be our greatest time of a greater faith and trust in God.