Virginity testing.

[farouk]

Oops! 'however' ppl shouldn't. That was a mistake. I was trying to write shouldn't. However and shouldn't

Classik: It's okay; I think I caught your intended meaning.

Blessings.

 

[Classik]

Yes. Great portion. (However ppl should voluntairly sin and come back looking for mercy).

Yes. Great portion. (However ppl shouldn't voluntairly sin and come back looking for mercy).

 

[farouk]

Yes. Great portion. (However ppl shouldn't voluntairly sin and come back looking for mercy).

Classik:

Yes, right. Condoms are no substitute to seeking to honor the Lord when single.

 

[Classik]

Right...tho a little scary

 

[farouk]

Right...tho a little scary

Classik: Yes, well, practical sanctification is a challenge to the married and unmarried believer alike. I think the message of this thread is, however, that there is forgiveness with the Lord, although those who trust Him will not want to abuse His loving forgiveness revealed through the Person and Work of His Son.

 

[Classik]

Yeah. (I was trying to introduce something different tho)

 

[farouk]

Yeah. (I was trying to introduce something different tho)

How did you mean?

Blessings.

 

[Classik]

Several Decades ago cultures didn't have male and female stuff for protection. So intercourse was physical and raw - not by induction (induction is a slang meaning no direct contact - a barrier has been used). Two virgins who met by induction...are they still virgins? Note: no direct contact - no fluid merge. Have you not been challenged by such arguemnts by so-called scholars?

 

[farouk]

Several Decades ago cultures didn't have male and female stuff for protection. So intercourse was physical and raw - not by induction (induction is a slang meaning no direct contact - a barrier has been used). Two virgins who met by induction...are they still virgins? Note: no direct contact - no fluid merge. Have you not been challenged by such arguemnts by so-called scholars?

Oh...

 

[Classik]

Yeah

 

[pocketmerlin]

I'm confused. Did you guys reach a conclusion as to whether non-virgins were free to marry people other than who they fornicated with?

Your talking about this has got me thinking a little bit, and that verse in Exodus that commands a man to marry a woman if he's fornicated with her and she's unmarried and unbetrothed has me wondering whether God wants the same from us today.

I'm technically still a virgin in that I never had full-on intercourse, but I definitely did some impure, lustful, physical things with my girlfriend in high school, and that was after I became a Christian. I have repented and asked for forgiveness...but am I bound to marry her or no one else?

I'd never thought about it until now, but it seems odd that God has such strict rules about something he doesn't define very clearly.

Might I add that I don't find God's rules about faithfulness to your spouse and refraining from sexual immorality to be restrictive...they are what I now live by and the fact that God has declared them I find as reason to worship him...but I wish he would have given a clearer definition of what actually constitutes a marriage.

 

[farouk]

I'm confused. Did you guys reach a conclusion as to whether non-virgins were free to marry people other than who they fornicated with?

Your talking about this has got me thinking a little bit, and that verse in Exodus that commands a man to marry a woman if he's fornicated with her and she's unmarried and unbetrothed has me wondering whether God wants the same from us today.

I'm technically still a virgin in that I never had full-on intercourse, but I definitely did some impure, lustful, physical things with my girlfriend in high school, and that was after I became a Christian. I have repented and asked for forgiveness...but am I bound to marry her or no one else?

I'd never thought about it until now, but it seems odd that God has such strict rules about something he doesn't define very clearly.

Might I add that I don't find God's rules about faithfulness to your spouse and refraining from sexual immorality to be restrictive...they are what I now live by and the fact that God has declared them I find as reason to worship him...but I wish he would have given a clearer definition of what actually constitutes a marriage.

pocketmerlin:

Just to remember that in the Old Testament, Israel was an earthly people with a civil society in a theocracy, with its various rules.

Believers in the Lord Jesus, born again and cleansed by His precious blood, are in the church, of which the New Testament speaks a lot, and they are a heavenly people gathered out of the nations and Judaism.

So it can be helpful to remember the dispensational distinctions.

In the New Testament, fornication and adultery are different words used; generally speaking, fornication refers to pre-marital activity, while adultery refers to activity after a marriage has been established.