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Was 1948 when God restored Israel?

Not sure what your problem is. The issue is not whether Jews formed a nation or not. The issue is whether God Himself restored them, is protecting them etc. Some preachers I hear say that Israel is blossoming like a rose in fulfillment of prophesy and that God is supernaturally fighting with them etc etc.

I already mentioned a nation of Israel has to be here to be invaded and etc in the end time. That does not mean God is with them, or that He restored them.

Great, so what? The existence of a nation does not mean Jesus rules them or restored them.

Israel as a secular nation is in that land or some of it. As for the star thingie, any child in school can draw a star. If you mean that the secular nation uses a star as one of their symbols, that is meaningless.

As for the Damascus bit, looking at a commentary I see this

"Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus,.... The chief city of Syria; and which, as Aben Ezra says, lay to the east of the land of Israel, and was a very strong and fortified place: and Syria being in alliance with Israel, the Israelites might think of fleeing thither for refuge, in the time of their distress; but they are here told that they should be taken captive, and be carried to places far more remote than that: Stephen says, "beyond Babylon"; as they were, for they were carried into Media, to Halah and Habor by the river of Gozan, to the cities of the Medes; their way to which lay through Syria and Babylon;"

If this commentary is correct, that is history.
He means the mengen David .
 
Star of David .

The isreali flag has that .mengen David look slightly different then other types
I assume you are trying to relate that to the verses in Amos another poster cited.

"
  • Amos 5:26 Or lifted up Sakkuth your king / and Kaiwan your idols, / your star-gods; Septuagint lifted up the shrine of Molek / and the star of your god Rephan, / their idols"

No mention of a national flag there.
 
I assume you are trying to relate that to the verses in Amos another poster cited.

"
  • Amos 5:26 Or lifted up Sakkuth your king / and Kaiwan your idols, / your star-gods; Septuagint lifted up the shrine of Molek / and the star of your god Rephan, / their idols"

No mention of a national flag there.
I didn't say he was correct .only the alussion to the mengen David is assumed to be from star of repphram .
It's from the kabbalah or also David's shield which by tradition was two daleths facing each other with the letter vah in the middle or tau.

Irc
 
I didn't say he was correct .only the alussion to the mengen David is assumed to be from star of repphram .
It's from the kabbalah or also David's shield which by tradition was two daleths facing each other with the letter vah in the middle or tau.

Irc
So we don't really know. OK I guess that does nothing to establish for the poster whether God brought Israel back already or not.
 
So we don't really know. OK I guess that does nothing to establish for the poster whether God brought Israel back already or not.
I don't have a problem with the mengen David
 
When the Lord makes Israel what he originally intended it to be :
1.) they will be at peace with no threat anywhere to be seen .
2.) Not only no threat will be anywhere , but other nations that were once hostile towards them will be seeking the Throne Lord from within them on Mount Zion.
After the Lord does what He will do there will be no question on topside earth that God reigns from Israel .


The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
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Psa 110:3
Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
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Psa 110:4
The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
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Psa 110:5
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
 
When the Lord makes Israel what he originally intended it to be :
1.) they will be at peace with no threat anywhere to be seen .
Right, although that does not apply to 1948
2.) Not only no threat will be anywhere , but other nations that were once hostile towards them will be seeking the Throne Lord from within them on Mount Zion.
After the Lord does what He will do there will be no question on topside earth that God reigns from Israel .

Their enemies will lick the dust of their feet.
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
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Psa 110:3
Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
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Psa 110:4
The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
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Psa 110:5
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Right, again, nothing to do with 1948
 
As a symbol, it may be alright.
My mom I believe or my brother has my grandparents mazzizah .

It has the shemah and a few other versus in it and also a star of David .these are placed by the door .it's a kind of blessing .
 
My mom I believe or my brother has my grandparents mazzizah .
I guess you enjoy using what I assume are Jewish words.
It has the shemah and a few other versus in it and also a star of David .these are placed by the door .it's a kind of blessing .
I guess that is fine as a heirloom.
 
I guess you enjoy using what I assume are Jewish words.

I guess that is fine as a heirloom.
No a mezuzah is from the bible.

Hear oh isreal our Lord God is one
 
When the Lord makes Israel what he originally intended it to be :
1.) they will be at peace with no threat anywhere to be seen .
We now have peace that passes all understanding,

And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Col.3:15

Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. Jn.14:27
2.) Not only no threat will be anywhere , but other nations that were once hostile towards them will be seeking the Throne Lord from within them on Mount Zion.
After the Lord does what He will do there will be no question on topside earth that God reigns from Israel .
Gentiles have been coming in droves to the Jews to hear about God, since Jesus appeared.
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
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Psa 110:3
Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
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Psa 110:4
The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
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Psa 110:5
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
It's odd too, because Jesus ruled over death....the eternal High Priest.

Some versions of Psa.110:5 say, "The Lord at thy right hand smote (past tense) through kings in the day of his wrath."

Vs.5 is like a warning to people not to reject the reign of the Messiah.
 
I assume you are trying to relate that to the verses in Amos another poster cited.

"
  • Amos 5:26 Or lifted up Sakkuth your king / and Kaiwan your idols, / your star-gods; Septuagint lifted up the shrine of Molek / and the star of your god Rephan, / their idols"

No mention of a national flag there.
Amos wrote the star is a symbol of their king which they lift up (worship)before the day of the Lord.
But what your ignoring is the beast.Revelations says they worship a beast with seven heads and ten horns and they take the mark of the beast.
Amos is saying they worship their king and are cast out for that reason.

All things lead back to my first post.
 
Fair enough. If this applies to the day of the Lord, fine. So we have some folks from Israel who will flee to Damascus area. So...?
Oh no.They don't flee to Damascus.Damascus will be a wastland.If they survive ,they must go beyond Damascus.
It's why they are cast out.
It all leads back to my first post.

Revelation 13
3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.



Has it dawned on you yet why Israel shall reign over the nations in the Lord's land yet?

Isaiah 14:2
Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.
 
Amos wrote the star is a symbol of their king which they lift up (worship)before the day of the Lord.
But what your ignoring is the beast.Revelations says they worship a beast with seven heads and ten horns and they take the mark of the beast.
Amos is saying they worship their king and are cast out for that reason.

All things lead back to my first post.
Great so that connects to whether God brought them back or not in 1948 -- how?
 
Oh no.They don't flee to Damascus.Damascus will be a wastland.If they survive ,they must go beyond Damascus.
It's why they are cast out.
It all leads back to my first post.

Revelation 13
3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.



Has it dawned on you yet why Israel shall reign over the nations in the Lord's land yet?

Isaiah 14:2
Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.

Because they finally get saved?
 
I see. So another little Jewish saying. Fine.
Saying?

It's quite important for Jews to know.they must memorize that .it's part of their bar at bat mitzvah.

Deut 6 verse 4.

Part of who Jews are
 
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