Was 1948 when God restored Israel?

[Shilohsfoal]

I think God gave them their first King (Saul)

He also warned them about having a king.

eddif

Yes he did.Warned them that the king they have chosen will make them his slaves and God will not listen to their pleas after that has happened.

 

[eddif]

Yes he did.Warned them that the king they have chosen will make them his slaves and God will not listen to their pleas after that has happened.

I think God listens. Israel had some good kings and bad kings. The people sometimes listened an other times covered their ears to not hear.

The Holy Spirit first came to the Jews. Not all Jews were terrible.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I think God listens. Israel had some good kings and bad kings. The people sometimes listened an other times covered their ears to not hear.

The Holy Spirit first came to the Jews. Not all Jews were terrible.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

1 Samuel 8:17-18
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”



I'm pretty sure after their king who they have chosen gives them his mark showing they belong to him,God is not going to listen to them when they cry for help.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I think God gave them their first King (Saul)

He also warned them about having a king.

LOL
If it looks like a duck
Floats on water like a duck
Flys like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Has offspring like a duck

There is a good chance it is a duck

Even if it is not wearing a tee-shirt saying I am a Duck written in 5 ancient languages.

Did Saul wear a shirt saying (I am a political figure)?

This is all in fun (I hope). Seeing parallels is a tough row to hoe. Vines and briars are everywhere. Rednecks wear out a lot of cultivating equipment every year..

I am currently (really) pulling up hedge bushes with a tractor.
And have some blackberry bushes I just planted a few weeks ago.
So I could be sort of confused myself.

eddif

Since they demanded one, Saul was the best option available. Wasn’t God’s first choice.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

You said Christ have a temporary reign and will reign over sinners during the millinium.

He's reigning over us in mercy now.

That is false.
1-Christs reign is not temporary.It is permanent.His kingdom is everlasting.

His reign in mercy over the unrepentant is what comes to an end.

2-There are no sinners in Christs kingdom.They are all removed when he comes.

Removed from his Kingdom. Which means they were in it.

That kingdom is cleansed from all it's sinners.

Yes, when Jesus returns as Judge. As God almighty.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

He also warned them about having a king.

God warned them about having a king other than himself. Of course with Jesus as King, problem solved.

I will be thy king: where is any other that may save thee in all thy cities? and thy judges of whom thou saidst, (1Sam.8:5) Give me a king and princes? Hos.13:1

 

[eddif]

1 Samuel 8:17-18
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”



I'm pretty sure after their king who they have chosen gives them his mark showing they belong to him,God is not going to listen to them when they cry for help.

You gave the scripture yourself.
In that day. Right then.
But
At a point in time a promise that there would always be a good (?) king. Jesus king of the Jews.
1 Kings 9:5 kjv
5. Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever, as I promised to David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[eddif]

God warned them about having a king other than himself. Of course with Jesus as King, problem solved.

I will be thy king: where is any other that may save thee in all thy cities? and thy judges of whom thou saidst, (1Sam.8:5) Give me a king and princes? Hos.13:1

I read your post after I posted about Jesus.

We are on the same track,
eddif

 

[Shilohsfoal]

He's reigning over us in mercy now.

His reign in mercy over the unrepentant is what comes to an end.

Removed from his Kingdom. Which means they were in it.

Yes, when Jesus returns as Judge. As God almighty.

Your problem is,he hasn't recieved his kingdom yet.That takes place at the seventh trump.

Revelation 11:15
The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

 

[daddd]

Antichrist isn’t mentioned nor alluded to in Revelation, not once.

I would not be concerned with whether the man of sin is 'mentioned' in Revelation as much as why you can't see it.

Revelation 13:5




And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.









Revelation 13:6




And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.









Revelation 13:7




And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.









Revelation 13:8




And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.









Revelation 13:9




If any man have an ear, let him hear.

And the John who coined the term Antichrist, wrote Revelation so it’s not like he didn’t know the term.

Just want to point out that Rev 3:10 is a conditional promise. It is only for those who actually DO the teachings of Jesus, not those who believed they are saved from eternal punishment.

That was to a church that will be spared from the Tribulation wrath apparently. What they did got them a blessing, but that is not salvation being talked about. It is the blessing of being spared from the Tribulation (Raptured) as far as I can tell.

 

[daddd]

So you believe nothing happened in 1948.

I never said that. A lot happened. It is very significant. Israel has to be there for many end time prophesies to be fulfilled.

So while you wait for Israel to be brought back to the land of Israel,those who follow the Lamb will continue to do what Jesus commanded throughout all the cities of Israel till he comes.

Preaching the gospel has nothing to do with pretending Jesus already returned and that Israel already repented.

Mathew 10:23
When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Right, it is hard to preach in that secular state particularly.

 

[daddd]

Apparently you don't know where Babylon is either since you say ,what is the point?

What Babylon? The ancient city? The end time city and religious city state? I can't guess what you are trying to articulate here.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You gave the scripture yourself.
In that day. Right then.
But
At a point in time a promise that there would always be a good (?) king. Jesus king of the Jews.
1 Kings 9:5 kjv
5. Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever, as I promised to David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

Those who chose the wrong king won't be around after Christ comes.They will be removed from his kingdom.


1 Samuel 8:17-18
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I never said that. A lot happened. It is very significant. Israel has to be there for many end time prophesies to be fulfilled.

Preaching the gospel has nothing to do with pretending Jesus already returned and that Israel already repented.

Right, it is hard to preach in that secular state particularly.

Who claimed Christ came in 1948 and Israel repented ?

That's not the question in the op.

Was 1948 when God restored Israel?​

And you just answered your own question by saying"

Israel has to be there for many end time prophesies to be fulfilled.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I would not be concerned with whether the man of sin is 'mentioned' in Revelation as much as why you can't see it.

Revelation 13:5




And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.









Revelation 13:6




And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.









Revelation 13:7




And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.









Revelation 13:8




And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.









Revelation 13:9




If any man have an ear, let him hear.





That was to a church that will be spared from the Tribulation wrath apparently. What they did got them a blessing, but that is not salvation being talked about. It is the blessing of being spared from the Tribulation (Raptured) as far as I can tell.

So you offend so that you can ignore input you distain. If you choose to hold to the eschatology you like, enjoy.

 

[daddd]

Who claimed Christ came in 1948 and Israel repented ?

When Israel is restored and returned to the land it will be after they are saved and Jesus rules them. So anyone claiming He restored them in 1948, as far as I can tell does claim that.

That's not the question in the op.

Was 1948 when God restored Israel?​

And you just answered your own question by saying"

By saying....what?

 

[daddd]

So you offend so that you can ignore input you distain. If you choose to hold to the eschatology you like, enjoy.

Yes. I chose to see that obviously Revelation talks about the end time king. If that offends someone, they should give their head a shake and get real.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

What Babylon? The ancient city? The end time city and religious city state? I can't guess what you are trying to articulate here.

The city that sits on the seven hills.

Revelation 17;9
This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

The seven hills that you called Satan.

Revelation 12
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Yes. I chose to see that obviously Revelation talks about the end time king. If that offends someone, they should give their head a shake and get real.

Your theology doesn’t offend. I heard this theology decades ago. Your words insulting me offend. Try to see the difference.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

When Israel is restored and returned to the land it will be after they are saved and Jesus rules them. So anyone claiming He restored them in 1948, as far as I can tell does claim that.

By saying....what?

You just said
"I never said that. A lot happened. It is very significant. Israel has to be there for many end time prophesies to be fulfilled."

you said this took place in 1948