What Comes First, Surrender or Saving OBEDIENT Faith?

[Elijah674]

The devils ways are to be tricky! All 's'pirits are both evil as well as good which do indeed get 'into' people!! The Holy Spirit is also defined as the Holy Ghost. NO one can be Born Again from the time of Adam's first sin on, without the REQUIRED Acts 5:32's TOTAL submission to God!

And without that Born Again requirement, Rom. 8:1's 'IN CHRIST' which is promised only by WORKING faith of [[OBEDIENCE]], mankind is still carnal & lost! (See Phil. 4:13, 2 Cor, 12:9 and James 2:10!)

That IS the First required step! Then we can find such examples of these ones in the O.T., but here is just one of the many O.T. Truths of which the Holy Spirit could & did CHANGE the person 'INTO ANOTHER MAN' with 'ANOTHER HEART'!!

1 Sam. 10:6-9 has this Holy Spirit INSPIRED DOCUMENTED TRUTH there! And for anyone or many such ones to teach opposite this clear Truth is one way to recognize 'THE FALSE TEACHER' one.

AND:
Also, this is just the required START from carnal to REQUIRED SPIRITUAL. The Holy Spirit can be QUENCHED AWAY & GRIEVED by the Born Again one coming to the place that they will be no longer 'LED' by Him! Rom. 8:1 forward to verse 14.

Such as this teaching of false doctrines. And this one is only one such one as is taught by the Rev. 17:1-5 ones while GREVING & QUENCHING the HOLY SPIRIT for well past any 120 years as seen in Gen. 6:3 to the point that they can no longer be convicted of anything much.

And the prophesied problem is??? (or was!) Who alive today has changed any false doctrine taught by the Rev. 17:1-5 of satan's ones, to follow the Holy Spirit's LEADING as required? Eccl.3:15

 

[DarkHorseRising]

You got me in a Christmas mood with all the red and green coloring.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

"Jingle Bells, batman smells..."

 

[dadof10]

You got me in a Christmas mood with all the red and green coloring.

Hey, there's some blue in there too. III-III'L haa-aave aa-aa bluuuuuue Christmas, Wiii-iii-iiith out youuuu.....