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What is the first commandment?
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Christ founded the church on Peter matt 16:18 and the apostles in hierarchy and union Matt 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20
Thankfully, God has supplied all men with a conscience that just knows when something is bad.
Not to murder or kidnap or steal is written on my heart.
Jn 3:16
Not the Bible alone but the teaching authority of the apostles
An article of faith to be believed must be proposed by holy church. Matt 28:19
Define "holy church".
I know it would have no sin in it, as sin isn't holy.
Four Marks of the True Church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter, the apostles, and their successors!
One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church!
The church is One:
Isaiah 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
Dan 2:44
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Lk 1:32-33 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Mt 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
John 17:17-23
that they may be one as we are one.
Romans 12:5
so we, who are many, are one body in Christ.
Rom 15:6
1 Corinthians 1:10
I appeal to you... that there be no dissensions among you, but that
you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.
1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1 Corinthians 12:13
by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. 1 Corinthians 12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.
Eph 1:10
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Colossians 3:15
Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were
called in the one body.
Philippians 1:27
Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
Philippians 2:2
be of same the mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of
one mind.
The church is Holy:
The church is Holy because Her founder is God, and Holy is His name.
She is the spotless bride of Christ.
1 Timothy 3:15
know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.
Colossians 1:18
And he [Jesus] is the head of the body, the church.
1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people
belonging to God... Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God.
Ephesians 2:19-22
Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of God’s household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
The church is Catholic: (universal)
Jn 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jn 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jn 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Matt 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Matt 13:38
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Matt 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matt 28:18-20
And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.
Mark 16:15-16
And he said to them, Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Jn 1:9
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jn 4:42
And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
Jn 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Jn 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
Jn 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Jn 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world...
Jn 12:47
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world
Jn 16:12-13
I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them
now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
2 cor 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us (the whole world) to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
World = Universal = Catholic
The church is Apostolic:
Matthew 16:18-10
And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Luke 22:28-30
You [the apostles] are those who have continued with me in my trials; and I assign to you, as my Father assigned to me, a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
John 15:16
You [the apostles] did not choose me, but I [Jesus] chose you and appointed
you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide...
Matthew 28:16,18-20
Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee... And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore
and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.
John 20:21-23
Jesus said to them [the apostles] again, Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.
Ephesians 2:19-20
... but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone.
Acts 1:
Matthias replaces Judas who had the ministry of apostle.
Heb 3:11 Acts 1:
Jesus is an apostle, the apostles are already in succession to Him, they in turn would have successors.
Acts 15:22
Acts 16:4
The church wasn't founded on Peter, a Jewish man, but on what the Father revealed unto him..."And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matt 16:16-18)
My church wasn't founded on a mere man, but on the Son of God.
And I know it is the real church because the gates of hell have not prevailed against it.
How do you govern the church and administer the kingdom with a confession?
How do you give jurisdictional authority to a confession?
How do you give a confession the power to bind and loose?
also have to explain
Isa 22:21-22
Matt 16:18
Matt 28:19
Jn 20:21-23
Eph 2:20
Matt 23
God always establishes order in the obedience to hierarchical authority!
JLB answered your question in post #4. We know it is the first because the word of God tells us so. I would think even you being a Roman Catholic would know the ten commandments so what is your purpose in asking what the first one is.
Can you show us how Solas attacks Christ?
Yes it is, but can not get into the evil underlining of when they say peace then sudden destruction will come upon them, 1 Thessalonians 5:3, as that is another topic of discussion.
I only meant peace of Christ be with you
Agreed.
Faith alone not biblical.
He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:16
Great scripture.
However, this passage doesn't mention faith.
Let's deal with passages that actually teach about faith, and the principle or law of faith.
JLB
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I did not equate the studying of God's word with evil.. You Did!
Agreed, as Paul said....
Romans 2:14
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Well praise God that the word is written upon your heart. But if the word is written on your heart, why then do you need to study the Book, the Book that contains the knowledge of good and evil? What does the Book give you that God hasn't already written upon your heart?
The authority by which the Apostles teach from and what they teach is from God who gave them through the teachings of Christ, not the church. One either believes the whole word of God, or they believe none of it as you can not pick and chose what you want to believe by the doctrines of your own church. The article of faith is our belief in Christ by that of God's grace. This is what the church needs to be teaching.
Confession of what?
All your verses were quite self-explanatory.
As God is the final authority, anything tending to wickedness is not of God.
Like calling someone besides God "father".
Calling someone "father" is not of God. (Matt 23:9)
And as "a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump", the "father" example saved me from a false set of circumstances that would have cost me my soul.
Not so.
You wrote..."In that context, the first and most significant commandment in the scripture is the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shall NOT touch it. Yet still today, many find this fruit to be desirable, a fruit to make one wise; the fruit of the Bible itself, the knowledge of good and evil."
Your inference was that the knowledge, or the desire for knowledge of things, in the bible is evil.
I find that ludicrous.
Because there is more than what is required of "just my conscience" in order to teach and preach the doctrine which is according to Godliness.
There are history and witnesses and promises to recall and remember. Just to mention a few reasons to give thanks for God's word.
My conscience is unaware of those things, without study.
Man sure had troubles listening to the right source.
Genesis 6:5 kjv
5. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart wasonly evil continually.
By this time man had fallen pretty low.
No matter that God had spoken to Adam and Eve in the garden.
So by the time of Jesus how were the hearts of men and the disciples?
They wanted to know who would sit on his left and right hand.
Peter forbid Jesus to suffer.
They thought Jesus would have delivered Israel.
Doubted his resurrection.
Abandoned Jesus.
Denied knowing him.
The Gentiles were without God in the world.
So what got us on a better ( if not perfect ) track?
I will put my law in their hearts and minds.
Pentecost for the Jews.
Cornelius house inclusion for the Gentiles.
The hidden man of the heart is the hope of Jew and Gentile alike.
Romans 1:20
Wikipedia electrical conduction of heart
Mississippi redneck ( what could anyone from Mississippi know?)
eddif
Genesis 6:5 kjv
5. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart wasonly evil continually.
By this time man had fallen pretty low.
No matter that God had spoken to Adam and Eve in the garden.
So by the time of Jesus how were the hearts of men and the disciples?
They wanted to know who would sit on his left and right hand.
Peter forbid Jesus to suffer.
They thought Jesus would have delivered Israel.
Doubted his resurrection.
Abandoned Jesus.
Denied knowing him.
The Gentiles were without God in the world.
So what got us on a better ( if not perfect ) track?
I will put my law in their hearts and minds.
Pentecost for the Jews.
Cornelius house inclusion for the Gentiles.
The hidden man of the heart is the hope of Jew and Gentile alike.
Romans 1:20
Wikipedia electrical conduction of heart
Mississippi redneck ( what could anyone from Mississippi know?)
eddif
The rule of faith is not the Bible alone, but the but Christ himself, Lk 2:30 he is our salvation jn 14:6 I am the way the truth and the life
We believe what he revealed jn 1:16-17
Eph 4:5 one faith
Jude 1:3 thee faith
Thee faith is revealed by Christ in the sacred deposit of faith once handed to the saints Jude 1:3 and TAUGHT by the apostles (the church)