Yes, your majesty. I am so impressed with your superior knowledge. What time of the day do we have to bow the knee to you?
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What is the gospel?
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It is not our fault that you don't mix with intelligent people.I dont want one either. Dont know that Ive ever met too many people that have one that teaches truth.
I would say you doWho cares about me? As a PhD do you have a problem answering a basic Bible question? Was Saul born again? If so, at what point did that happen?
I am not as good as you at telling jokesNo. Ive never seen Jesus but I believe in him both in his life here on earth, his death, and his resurrection. And I believe his teaching and he nowhere taught that we are to be baptized with the HS. If so, I would think all of that study should be able to produce passage after passage showing where we are commanded to be baptized by the HS AND there should be example after example of all of these people in the early church being baptized by the HS. You have all the time you need to show it to me. The only two occurrences of HS baptism is in acts 2 and acts 10. Thats it!
The Bible was not written for those of higher learning.So you think people will regret not being baptized when they get to heaven? What did the college teach you on that subject? I would like to think someone of higher learning would love to have a bible discussion. Even if its someone like me. You know what The Bible says…
Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
This is definitely a command for those of higher learning.
Like so many of your comments everything revolves around what you thinkTry me. You haven’t mentioned one doctrine, one passage or any position whatsoever. I do not accept peoples opinion on doctrinal matters. If you cant make an argument through book chapter and verse then no I will not accept it. Just like when C Stanley preaches that people will regret not being baptized when they get to heaven. He made that up! That teaching cannot be found anywhere in the NT so therefore HE IS WRONG. You have all the time you need to show me how he is right and I am wrong. But you too know its not in there so I doubt you even try to defend the man.
NO you don't. You believe your version of itNo. Ive never seen Jesus but I believe in him both in his life here on earth, his death, and his resurrection. And I believe his teaching and he nowhere taught that we are to be baptized with the HS. If so, I would think all of that study should be able to produce passage after passage showing where we are commanded to be baptized by the HS AND there should be example after example of all of these people in the early church being baptized by the HS. You have all the time you need to show it to me. The only two occurrences of HS baptism is in acts 2 and acts 10. Thats it!
Wow! Deep reply from a PhD. I asked you a basic Bible question….
At what point was Saul of tarsus Born Again? All I get is…..”im talking about you”? Thats it. Thats what Bible degrees get you now a days?
The Gospel is Jesus Christ choosing His sheep ( they hear His voice and know His voice)
The Shepherd knows His sheep, and is known of them. ( they believe in His name)
John 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Paul is chosen, to glorify God ( to preach the faith he once destroyed) by suffering great things for the name of the Lord. ( Jesus Christ.)
Paul asks right away to Christ, what he should do, as right away he knows the voice of the Shepherd. The Son of God is revealed in Paul, ( the Spirit calling us) and Paul goes to Him and arises, and baptized, and wash away the sins, calling on the name of the Lord. ( born again of the Holy Spirit.)
Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
Acts 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Galatians 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Galatians 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
24 And they glorified God in me.
Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Then as Ephesians 3 shows, made known unto the sons of men, it is now revealed unto His Holy Apostles and prophets by the Spirit, to be of the same body and partakers of the promise of God( to Abraham of the hope of eternal life in Christ.)
You didnt like that I was using I. So I just showed you that if Paul can use I then I can too. Thats all!So you believe you are on par with Paul?
If you are a PhD and this your idea of coming to a Bible forum to discuss the Bible then this is Pathetic! You should be all over me. Why? Because I must be a false teacher and a PhD should never let a false teacher get away with leading people astray. A PhD in bible and you wont even discuss the Bible. I asked you….At what point was Saul of Tarsus “born again”? You dont even care to study this basic Bible question. Like I said….you haven’t disappointed me.NO you don't. You believe your version of it
Well, to me the definition of “intelligent” is subjective.It is not our fault that you don't mix with intelligent people.
You didnt like that I was using I. So I just showed you that if Paul can use I then I can too. Thats all!
You cant do like Apostle Paul, we see Pauls example of following Christ in suffering, how can that be verified by text on a screen.
Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
1 Corinthians 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
1 Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
If you are a PhD and this your idea of coming to a Bible forum to discuss the Bible then this is Pathetic! You should be all over me. Why? Because I must be a false teacher and a PhD should never let a false teacher get away with leading people astray. A PhD in bible and you wont even discuss the Bible. I asked you….At what point was Saul of Tarsus “born again”? You dont even care to study this basic Bible question. Like I said….you haven’t disappointed me.
A false teacher is everybody who does not/ can not, acknowledge that charity edifies. ( not knowledge)
1 Corinthians 8:1 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Uh…NO! I quoted C Stanley then I posted Mk 16:16. That is not what I think, that is fact. C Stanley teaches false doctrine and makes stuff up. Again as a fellow PhD I would think you would want to put me in my place and show all why I am wrong and Charles is right. Im pretty sure you two believe very much the same. You are welcome to set me straight on that.Like so many of your comments everything revolves around what you think
If you are a PhD and this your idea of coming to a Bible forum to discuss the Bible then this is Pathetic! You should be all over me. Why? Because I must be a false teacher and a PhD should never let a false teacher get away with leading people astray. A PhD in bible and you wont even discuss the Bible. I asked you….At what point was Saul of Tarsus “born again”? You dont even care to study this basic Bible question. Like I said….you haven’t disappointed me.
Also if what you claimed was true, that you wanted an answer about Saul of Tarsus being born again, it was answered for you.
Why carry on in strife, while ignoring you had your question answered ( without strife ) by someone.
In the same answer about Paul being baptized, it included what was commanded to Paul, to arise and be baptized. Really quite simple.Uh…NO! I quoted C Stanley then I posted Mk 16:16. That is not what I think, that is fact. C Stanley teaches false doctrine and makes stuff up. Again as a fellow PhD I would think you would want to put me in my place and show all why I am wrong and Charles is right. Im pretty sure you two believe very much the same. You are welcome to set me straight on that.
How do you become one of “his sheep”?The Gospel is Jesus Christ choosing His sheep ( they hear His voice and know His voice)
The Shepherd knows His sheep, and is known of them. ( they believe in His name)
Again…How do you become one of his sheep? It cant be just by hearing his voice because that would mean everybody that has ever heard the Bible is a sheep and that’s not right.John 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
You are correct. It is after Saul comes up out of the waters of baptism that his sins have been washed away meaning that he has risen to walk “in newness of life” or “born again”.Paul is chosen, to glorify God ( to preach the faith he once destroyed) by suffering great things for the name of the Lord. ( Jesus Christ.)
Paul asks right away to Christ, what he should do, as right away he knows the voice of the Shepherd. The Son of God is revealed in Paul, ( the Spirit calling us) and Paul goes to Him and arises, and baptized, and wash away the sins, calling on the name of the Lord. ( born again of the Holy Spirit.)
So…when did Saul become one of ”His sheep”? Before or after baptism? It cant be when he heard his voice because when he asked what must I do Jesus told him that a man will come and tell you what you “must” do. Obviously there was more for Saul to do in order to obey the gospel.
Is there a point you want to make out of these verses?Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
Acts 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Galatians 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Galatians 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
24 And they glorified God in me.
Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Then as Ephesians 3 shows, made known unto the sons of men, it is now revealed unto His Holy Apostles and prophets by the Spirit, to be of the same body and partakers of the promise of God( to Abraham of the hope of eternal life in Christ.)
You like random verses taken out of context dont you. I mean, if I was to just read what you posted I might come to the conclusion that I dont need any knowledge because knowledge is obviously bad.A false teacher is everybody who does not/ can not, acknowledge that charity edifies. ( not knowledge)
1 Corinthians 8:1 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
LOVE IS ALL WE NEED!
He never answered my question. Show it to me.Also if what you claimed was true, that you wanted an answer about Saul of Tarsus being born again, it was answered for you.
Why carry on in strife, while ignoring you had your question answered ( without strife ) by someone.
How do you become one of “his sheep”?
Again…How do you become one of his sheep? It cant be just by hearing his voice because that would mean everybody that has ever heard the Bible is a sheep and that’s not right.
You are correct. It is after Saul comes up out of the waters of baptism that his sins have been washed away meaning that he has risen to walk “in newness of life” or “born again”.
So…when did Saul become one of ”His sheep”? Before or after baptism? It cant be when he heard his voice because when he asked what must I do Jesus told him that a man will come and tell you what you “must” do. Obviously there was more for Saul to do in order to obey the gospel.
Is there a point you want to make out of these verses?
The Shepherd sought His own sheep ( why ask what is known scripture?)
Ezekiel 34:11 For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
Paul was born again when his sins are washed away, it cant be before.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.