What is the gospel?

[Cnkw3]

The false teaching heretic after one and two admonitions, is rejected, who said they had to be answered as they demand. ( is it not hypocritical to say someone ignores your words, and yet you do that at the very same time)

Prove it. Where has that happened? Where has someone asked me a basic Bible question and then I just bail on them. Ignore them? If there is any account of that then I just didnt see the post. Feel free to show this to me.

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Paul had more to say in Titus….
Titus 1:9. Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Gainsayer? Opposer, a disagreeable person. Thats me!
Paul said he was…..”set for the defense of the gospel!” If I got a PhD in Bible i would want to use it for just that purpose. The defense of the gospel! So if anyone like me were to teach harmful doctrine then I would want to defend the truth.

 

[gordon777]

I dont think you are using this correctly like many other verses you have posted. “Idle” just means useless and unprofitable.
When Jesus called the scribes and the pharisees…snakes, white washed tombs, blind leaders of the blind, fools, full of dead mens bones ( thats pretty bad). Would you consider these idle words he may one day have to answer for? I haven’t called anybody any names. He is the one that brought up his education. Why would anybody come on here and start bragging about something like that and then not back it up with a decent defense of the Bible against a clear false teacher as myself?

You are trying to create debate, and strife,instead of as Gods way, to not be a fool and end it..


Proverbs 20:3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

Romans 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

1 Corinthians 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

2 Corinthians 12:20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

Galatians 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Philippians 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

1 Timothy 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

 

[gordon777]

Prove it. Where has that happened? Where has someone asked me a basic Bible question and then I just bail on them. Ignore them? If there is any account of that then I just didnt see the post. Feel free to show this to me.

Paul had more to say in Titus….
Titus 1:9. Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Gainsayer? Opposer, a disagreeable person. Thats me!
Paul said he was…..”set for the defense of the gospel!” If I got a PhD in Bible i would want to use it for just that purpose. The defense of the gospel! So if anyone like me were to teach harmful doctrine then I would want to defend the truth.

You are not a peacemaker by your attempt to draw someone into a debate, yo are peacemaker if you show the way for peace and not debate. ( so far your claim for true doctrine is against the true doctrine)


Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

 

[Cnkw3]

It is not right to challenge someone who does not want to be challenged, especially while ignoring one who is challenging you.

Am I ignoring you? How so? I dont have to respond to every post you make. Most are useless. If you have a direct question then feel free to ask. If not then you may or may not get a reply.

 

[Cnkw3]

You are not a peacemaker by your attempt to draw someone into a debate, yo are peacemaker if you show the way for peace and not debate. ( so far your claim for true doctrine is against the true doctrine)


Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

The “peacemakers” are those that convert people to Christ with the truth thereby bringing unity and peace between man and God. This is exactly what I am trying to do by combating (and it is a war) false teaching. Sorry you have a problem with that.

Mat 10:34,35 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Doesn’t sound very loving to me.

 

[gordon777]

Am I ignoring you? How so? I dont have to respond to every post you make. Most are useless. If you have a direct question then feel free to ask. If not then you may or may not get a reply.

Why would one ask you a question, when you already label them useless.

You do realize yo are not talking sensibly.




Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

 

[gordon777]

The “peacemakers” are those that convert people to Christ with the truth thereby bringing unity and peace between man and God. This is exactly what I am trying to do by combating (and it is a war) false teaching. Sorry you have a problem with that.

Mat 10:34,35 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Doesn’t sound very loving to me.

No person converts anyone to Christ, Christ does the conversion. ( with the Holy Spirit)


Acts 15:3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

 

[gordon777]

The “peacemakers” are those that convert people to Christ with the truth thereby bringing unity and peace between man and God. This is exactly what I am trying to do by combating (and it is a war) false teaching. Sorry you have a problem with that.

Mat 10:34,35 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Doesn’t sound very loving to me.

Because the world does not give peace( in your household) but the peace Christ gives is in the household of God..

You should hear these scriptures more. ( they keep correcting you constantly)



John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

 

[gordon777]

Do you have anything wise to share, if not, how have you stood up to anything ?

 

[gordon777]

It is you who have little to answer, and are very much directly answered on all so far.

 

[gordon777]

He caused separation from our household, to the household or God, we don't find peace in the world, but we find peace in Christ( it is very loving to me)


Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

 

[Cnkw3]

Firstly you label the man a bragger. ( showing yourself full of envy, or all of bitterness like Simon in Acts 8.)



Mark 15:10 For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.

Acts 7:9 And the patriarchs, moved with envy, sold Joseph into Egypt: but God was with him,

Acts 13:45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.

Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Ok. How am I “showing myself full of envy”?
You think i am envious of anything anybody on here has? Just where did you get that from?
I get upset that i spend my time using the Bible to set forth a doctrinal position and then I get these 2 and 3 lines reply’s like…..
you just dont know what your talking about.
You are wrong and misguided.
And all with no Bible to back up any of it. That is frustrating, especially coming from a person of higher learning. I’ll let you in on my way of thinking. If i meet someone who has an open mind and receptive heart and truly shows a desire to learn then I treat them with the utmost of care and respect. But when I come on here? Very, very few who post on these boards are in that category. I treat people like preachers, PhDs, forum dwellers and those that think they are preachers quite a bit differently. They should no better then to read Mk 16:16 and then say….baptism has nothing to do with salvation! I know then and there they do not have an open and receptive heart. I do not treat them the same.

 

[gordon777]

It is the way to see who truly follows Christ, those who love Him most( peace in Him/household of God, and not peace in our households)


Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

 

[Cnkw3]

Every word we speak is accountable, whether you disagree with me or not, it is easy to show, we live or die by our words, and our words have to be words of life to not die...


Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

Ok. Then answer my question about the words and names Jesus used? Is he a hypocrite?

 

[gordon777]

Ok. How am I “showing myself full of envy”?
You think i am envious of anything anybody on here has? Just where did you get that from?
I get upset that i spend my time using the Bible to set forth a doctrinal position and then I get these 2 and 3 lines reply’s like…..
you just dont know what your talking about.
You are wrong and misguided.
And all with no Bible to back up any of it. That is frustrating, especially coming from a person of higher learning. I’ll let you in on my way of thinking. If i meet someone who has an open mind and receptive heart and truly shows a desire to learn then I treat them with the utmost of care and respect. But when I come on here? Very, very few who post on these boards are in that category. I treat people like preachers, PhDs, forum dwellers and those that think they are preachers quite a bit differently. They should no better then to read Mk 16:16 and then say….baptism has nothing to do with salvation! I know then and there they do not have an open and receptive heart. I do not treat them the same.

You have no excuse, here is why:


Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

 

[Cnkw3]

He caused separation from our household, to the household or God, we don't find peace in the world, but we find peace in Christ( it is very loving to me)


Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Hahaha. OK. so now households here on earth being broken up and destroyed is loving to you? But I have to play nice with false teachers on a Bible board? How backwards is your thinking?

 

[gordon777]

Ok. Then answer my question about the words and names Jesus used? Is he a hypocrite?

Jesus called them hypocrites, ( He is Lord of all) but we are all brothers together, we cant be over anyone, so just lower down, it is not bad advice, if it was, I would say go even higher and stand over others.


1 Peter 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

 

[gordon777]

Hahaha. OK. so now households here on earth being broken up and destroyed is loving to you? But I have to play nice with false teachers on a Bible board? How backwards is your thinking?

Our enemy to the faith are those in our house, it is the test as told, if we love Jesus more or do not, it i s very simple.

Not to mention the betrayal by some too as told..



Micah 7:5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.

Luke 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

 

[gordon777]

Hahaha. OK. so now households here on earth being broken up and destroyed is loving to you? But I have to play nice with false teachers on a Bible board? How backwards is your thinking?

So far all you show everyone right now, is you ignore and ridicule every single scripture given your way, how forwards do you think that is.

 

[Cnkw3]

It is the way to see who truly follows Christ, those who love Him most( peace in Him/household of God, and not peace in our households)

Peace in him huh? Ok. How does one get “into Christ”?