Who is Jesus

[JCisTheLivingWord]

The age ole question, Many have even fought over this. I pray to Jehovah God our Heavenly Father for guidance and through many years of study and conversation I pray these statements to be true.

1.One Jesus Christ without any doubt was the Messiah .
2. He is also The Living (Actual) Word of Jehovah God
3. He is the Only Begotten Son of Jehovah God
4. He is known as the Lamb (Of God)
5. We know Christ Jesus was tempted and that according to scripture Jehovah God Cannot be tempted by Evil
6. We also know Christ Jesus Died and arose again, whereas Jehovah God cannot Die for He is Eternal.
7. We know there are three who bear Witness The Father and The Son And the Holy Spirit ( In the the Greek the phrase: ( and they are One) is not present.
8. Jesus himself said His Heavenly Father was Greater
9. We Also Know from Scripture no man has ever seen Jehovah God.
10 We also Know His name was Emanuel ( Translated meaning God with Us) Well of course he was with us, His love his grace and his Mercy was fully on display. God sent all of that in the form of his very Word.
11. We also know that Jesus told Phillip if you've seen me, you've seen the Father. Why did Christ Jesus say this: Because He was everything God stood for: Faith Hope and Charity. He was a Messenger of that Faith Hope and Charity. He was here to do His Father's work.
Now, We also know from Old Testament that Jesus was in the bosom of Jehovah God, I believe this is meant as a statement that; Jehovah God Has His Begotten Son In his heart and when the time came That Love became the Word and was transferred to The Virgin Mary. Hence in the original Greek John 1:1 is as follows: In the Beginning was the Word and the word was with God and God was the Word. However the error in the K.J.V version is the last phrase which was turned (The Word is God) to indicate That The Word (Christ Jesus) was actually God Himself descending from heaven. This we know from scripture cannot be true because Jehovah God is Eternal and can not be tempted by Evil. However in Jehovah God's Infallible wisdom He did send His Very (Word) This is what is meant by The last phrase: God was the Word. This tells us that The part of Christ Jesus which was God Himself was His Voice. Therefore God could Sacrifice His Word Or Love ( Remember Bosom) Through the Only Gate he could: His Only Begotten Son. For God so Loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son, That whosoever believe in Him ( Christ Jesus) would not perish but would have everlasting life. (John3:16) The very basics of The Gospel. Therefore to claim that Jesus Christ is not Jehovah God's Only Begotten you would be considered Antichrist. Therefore as for me and my family we believe this: Jesus is The Only Begotten Son He is also Jehovah God's word (Heart-Love) Made Flesh. So when you ask me who is Christ Jesus? I will tell you He is The Living Word and The Only begotten Son.
God Bless you All

 

[shad]

The age ole question, Many have even fought over this. I pray to Jehovah God our Heavenly Father for guidance and through many years of study and conversation I pray these statements to be true.

1.One Jesus Christ without any doubt was the Messiah .
2. He is also The Living (Actual) Word of Jehovah God
3. He is the Only Begotten Son of Jehovah God
4. He is known as the Lamb (Of God)
5. We know Christ Jesus was tempted and that according to scripture Jehovah God Cannot be tempted by Evil
6. We also know Christ Jesus Died and arose again, whereas Jehovah God cannot Die for He is Eternal.
7. We know there are three who bear Witness The Father and The Son And the Holy Spirit ( In the the Greek the phrase: ( and they are One) is not present.
8. Jesus himself said His Heavenly Father was Greater
9. We Also Know from Scripture no man has ever seen Jehovah God.
10 We also Know His name was Emanuel ( Translated meaning God with Us) Well of course he was with us, His love his grace and his Mercy was fully on display. God sent all of that in the form of his very Word.
11. We also know that Jesus told Phillip if you've seen me, you've seen the Father. Why did Christ Jesus say this: Because He was everything God stood for: Faith Hope and Charity. He was a Messenger of that Faith Hope and Charity. He was here to do His Father's work.
Now, We also know from Old Testament that Jesus was in the bosom of Jehovah God, I believe this is meant as a statement that; Jehovah God Has His Begotten Son In his heart and when the time came That Love became the Word and was transferred to The Virgin Mary. Hence in the original Greek John 1:1 is as follows: In the Beginning was the Word and the word was with God and God was the Word. However the error in the K.J.V version is the last phrase which was turned (The Word is God) to indicate That The Word (Christ Jesus) was actually God Himself descending from heaven. This we know from scripture cannot be true because Jehovah God is Eternal and can not be tempted by Evil. However in Jehovah God's Infallible wisdom He did send His Very (Word) This is what is meant by The last phrase: God was the Word. This tells us that The part of Christ Jesus which was God Himself was His Voice. Therefore God could Sacrifice His Word Or Love ( Remember Bosom) Through the Only Gate he could: His Only Begotten Son. For God so Loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son, That whosoever believe in Him ( Christ Jesus) would not perish but would have everlasting life. (John3:16) The very basics of The Gospel. Therefore to claim that Jesus Christ is not Jehovah God's Only Begotten you would be considered Antichrist. Therefore as for me and my family we believe this: Jesus is The Only Begotten Son He is also Jehovah God's word (Heart-Love) Made Flesh. So when you ask me who is Christ Jesus? I will tell you He is The Living Word and The Only begotten Son.
God Bless you All

Amen.

 

[savedbygrace57]

If Jesus was not Jehovah !



If Jesus was not Jehovah as a Man, then there has yet to be anyone qualified to yield Perfect Obedience to God's Law, and to bare its penalty to the degree that God the Righteous Judge is all the way satisfied with those it was bared for, for what mere creature could have established everlasting righteousness Dan 9:

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

To establish this righteousness for a multitude of sinners that no man can number ! For though it was only through His Manhood which came through the virgin birth, that He became subject to the law and endured its penalty; for His Deity itself could not suffer and die or even be in subjection, however the word in being made flesh [virgin birth], was constituted both God and Man in One Person, in that His Deity in all the Fulness of Divine Attributes carried all its power and virtue into all that The Man Christ Jesus did and suffered, and by doing so, established perfect redemption from under the Law for His People and conquered death in their behalf. This only God could do.

 

[savedbygrace57]

Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the World Jn 4:42

And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

Now if that is True and this also is True Isa 43:11

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Then Jesus is God ! Unless its false and there is a Saviour besides Jehovah !

 

[savedbygrace57]

This is the True God and Eternal Life !

1 Jn 5:20

20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

We have here the inspired testimony of an Apostle regarding the Lord Jesus Christ, and here as in his Gospel he declares the True Character and Being of Christ as God and Eternal Life.

Jn 1:1,4

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


4In him was life[Eternal Life]; and the life was the light of men.

So basically 1 Jn 5:20 and Jn 1:1,4 teach the same exact thing , That Jesus is God and He is Eternal life with the Father ! 1 jn 1:


2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us )

Jn 1:2

The same was in the beginning with God.

This Truth was a Truth that established fellowship amongst True Believers with like precious faith 1 Jn 1:1-3

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us )

3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

There is no way a person can be walking in Truth 2 Jn 1:4

4I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.

And does not accept the True Doctrine of Christ 2 Jn 1:9

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

The Apostles John Doctrine of Christ is that He is both God and Eternal Life !

It is acknowledged that Jesus made a statement regarding the Father as the only True God, which He is Jn 17:3 and that is accepted, but it should also be accepted that scripture testimony is that the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ is the True God 1 Jn 5:20. We do not see in Jn 17:3 as a denial of the Son as being the True God, but merely affirming that the Father is. John also in 1 Jn 5:20 uses the definite article in the greek, when speaking of Jesus Christ the Son, he writes " The True God and or also Eternal life" !

To not accept Apostolic Testimony on this issue is walking in darkness !

 

[patience7]

Jesus Christ is:

The Lamb of God: (John 1:29,36; 1 Peter 1:19; Revelation 5:12,13; 6:1,16, 7:9,10,14,17; 12:11; 13:8,11; 14:1,4,10)

Son of man: (Matt 8:20; 9:6; 10:23; 11:19; 12:8,32,40; 13:37,41; 16:13,27,28; 17:19,12,22; 18:11; 19:28; 20:18,28; 24:27,30,37,39; 25:13,31; 26:2,24,45,64; Mark 2:10,28; 8:31,38; 9:9,12,31; 10:33,45; 13:26,34; 14:21,41,62; Luke 5:24; 6:5,22; 7:22,24,26,30; 18:8,31; 19:10; 21:27,36; 22:22,48,69,24:7; John 1:51, 3:13,14; 5:27; 6:27,53,62,8:28; 12:23,34,31; Acts 7:56; Rev 1:13, 14:14)

Son of God: Matt 4:3,6; 8:29, 14:33, 16:16, 26:63, 27:40,43,54; Mark 1:1, 3:11, 5:7,39; Luke 1:32,35; 4:3,9,41; 8:28; 22:70; John 1:18,34,49; 3:16,18,36; 5:25; 6:69; 9:35; 10:36; 11:4,27; 13:31; 19:7; 20:31; Acts 3:13,26; 8:37; 9:20; 13:33; Romans 1:4,9; 5:10; 8:3; 1 Co 1:9; 15:28; 2 Co 1:19; Galatians 2:20; 4:4,6; Eph 4:13; Heb 4:14; 6:6; 10:29; 2 Peter 1:17; 1 John 3:8, 4:9,10,15; 5:5,9-13,20; 2 John 1:3,9; Rev 2:18)

Our Intercession (intercessor-petitions God on our behalf) (Romans 8:27,34; Hebrews 7:25)

Our Mediator (negotiator between us and God) (Galatians 3:19,20; 1 Timothy 2:5)

Our high priest (Hebrews 4:14)

Our Propitiation (Romans 3:25; 1 John 4:10)

Our Reconciliation (Romans 5:10)

Our Peace (John 14:27; 16:33)

Our Justification (Acts 13:39; Romans 4:25; 5:8,9,16,18)

Our Redemption (1 Co 1:30; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 1:18,19)

Our Righteousness (Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:5-23; 5:17-19; 1 Co 1:30)

Our Sanctification (1 Co 1:30; 1 Thess 4:2-4; 2 Thess 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2)

Jesus = God :

 

[Elder Mark]

Jesus = God

I say a BIG Amen to this; here is the fact: Either Christ was exactly who He claimed to be - the Son of God, the Word, God - or He was the biggest fraud and liar in history. Personally I believe the former, let there be no doubt about about that.
Point I'm trying to make is that some of us try to hush the discussion on who Jesus was (especially when more religions than only Christianity are involved in that discussion) with statements like "Jesus was just a good man" or "let's agree that Jesus was an important prophet". Let me tell you, with making the bold claims that He was making, Jesus Himself did not leave that option open. In Jesus' case, He expected all humanity to take a clear stand (cold or warm, but not luke-warm).

 

[Mark Fulton]

Wow! I'm a newbie here. I was attracted to the question " who is Jesus?" as I have been researching that very question for a number of years, although I've never wondered who is Jesus, but rather who was Jesus, because he is dead.

There are a lot of biblical quotes on this thread! Ask a question...go to the bible...find a quote that maybe answers the question....quote it.....you have your answer....seems to be the modus operandi of all the discussion here. it seems to me there are some fundamental assumptions being made that need to be questioned.

Um.....has anyone here ever questioned who wrote the bible? When? Why? Who compiled the books in it? When? Why? How truthful it is? I would love to learn about your opinions on this most important of topics.

 

[Free]

Wow! I'm a newbie here. I was attracted to the question " who is Jesus?" as I have been researching that very question for a number of years, although I've never wondered who is Jesus, but rather who was Jesus, because he is dead.

On what basis do you think he is dead?

There are a lot of biblical quotes on this thread! Ask a question...go to the bible...find a quote that maybe answers the question....quote it.....you have your answer....seems to be the modus operandi of all the discussion here. it seems to me there are some fundamental assumptions being made that need to be questioned.

Everyone makes assumptions. That is why you think Jesus is dead.

Um.....has anyone here ever questioned who wrote the bible? When? Why? Who compiled the books in it? When? Why? How truthful it is? I would love to learn about your opinions on this most important of topics.

Yes to all but those are questions for another thread.

 

[Elder Mark]

I was attracted to the question " who is Jesus?" as I have been researching that very question for a number of years, although I've never wondered who is Jesus, but rather who was Jesus, because he is dead.

First of all, welcome Mark. I'm quite new here too and - same as you - I have researched the question "who is Jesus" for a number of years. I know now the question is definitely "IS" and not "WAS". Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd day after His crucifixion. How do I know? Well, the Bible tells me so (amongst others).

To put things in the right perspective; I haven't always been a Christian. I lived for 36 years as an Atheist, before I accepted a bible study with the aim of proving the Bible wrong, once and for all. Well, it turned out the Bible proved me wrong, once and for all.

There are a lot of biblical quotes on this thread! Ask a question...go to the bible...find a quote that maybe answers the question....quote it.....you have your answer....seems to be the modus operandi of all the discussion here. it seems to me there are some fundamental assumptions being made that need to be questioned.

When researching the question, "who is Jesus", it seems logical to me that there are some - even quite some - quotes out of the Bible, as the Bible is the source. describing Jesus' life, death and resurrection most in depth. Since most - if not all - Christians are in agreement with what is stated in 2 Timothy 3:16 : All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. (quoted out of the NLT for reasons of clarity...). So accepting this one statement, we can accept that all that's written about Jesus in the Bible can be accepted, since it is inspired by God. In a nutshell and extremely simplified, that would be "faith". Apart from that, when you want to do research on mathematical principles, you are not going to get much answers out of a book on biology, right?
Faith doesn't have to be blind though; there are sufficient facts, also historical facts that point us to the assumption that Jesus was - and is - indeed the Living God. Goes a bit too far to go into all the details here. Some excellent books and documentaries are available on the subject. You'd be surprised how fact-based the whole thing actually is.
A series of books / documentaries on this subject I can advise is "The Case for..." trilogy by Lee Strobel. These books / documentaries "The Case for a Creator", "The Case for Christ" and "The Case for Faith" might provide you a lot of answers to questions you might have. In case you're interested, I have them freely available for you on www.laserministries.eu on the resources page. Just send the webmaster there a request for a username & password.

 

[savedbygrace57]

Jesus Christ is God because in the beginning He created the heavens and the earth. Gen 1:1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Now remember God said when about to create man in the beginning, that He uses the plural pronouns us and our Gen 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Now, Paul writes under inspiration of God, that all things were created by Jesus Christ in the beginning Eph 3:9

9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Now who will deny that Jesus Christ is one of the us in Gen 1:26 ?

 

[Classik]

I like calling Him the SOON-COMING KING

 

[savedbygrace57]

Jesus as God in Isa 6:1

Isa 6:1

1In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

Now the word for Lord here is the same word used in Ps 110:5 where its surely speaking of the Lord Jesus Christ, its the hebrew word 'Adonay and means:

my lord, lord

a) of men

b) of God

2) Lord - title, spoken in place of Yahweh in Jewish display of reverence

Now back to what Isa saw, the Lord High and Lifted up ! John writes and tells us that this was the Lord Jesus Christ Isa saw at that time Jn 12:41

41These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

This is the Glory He had before the world was Jn 17:5

5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Yes, this is who Isa saw High and Lifted up, The Preincarnated God Man.

Now we know it was the Lord Jesus Christ because Isa stated His Train filled the Temple ! Evidently He wore a Train, which was a High Priestly Garment. The word Train is the hebrew word shuwl and means

skirt (of robe)

a) of high priest's robe

b) of God's train, city as woman, ignominy, defilement (fig)

We know it had to do with the Office of High Priest because His Train filled the TEMPLE, now who officiates in the TEMPLE ?

Now the Father is not an High Priest, but the Son is Heb 5:5, Jesus was setup as God Man Mediator, and He was a High Priest after the order of Melchizedek, which High Priest order abideth forever, no beginning and no ending Heb 7:3

3Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Now this tells us Two things #1. That the Lord Jesus Christ is God, and #2 That Jesus Christ the Mediator Man existed as High Priest, at the Right Hand of God the Father before His Incarnation into Flesh and Blood.

Now Isa plainly states whom He saw Isa 6:1[ Who had on High Priestly Robe] commissioned him to go prophesy, at the time of the vision, lets look at vs 8-10

Isa 6:8-10


8Also I heard the voice of the Lord[adonay], saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

9And he[adonay] said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

10Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

The same Lord adonay in vs 1, and 8 is the LORD in vs 3 whom is Jehovah notice vs 3 Isa 6:3

3And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

Again, this is the same Glory that John says Isa spake of when Isa saw Christ Glory Jn 12:41

And since Isa was sent to prophesy to the Old Covenant People by the Lord adonay, this proves the Preexistence of Jesus Christ before the incarnation. Now see how this one passage of scripture from the OT yields all this Glorious Truth about Christ when Christ opens up our understanding to understand the scriptures..

 

[elijah23]

I think Jesus is God in flesh.

In other words, God decided to come to earth as a human being, so he did so as Jesus Christ.

 

[savedbygrace57]

Paul calls Jesus God, The Great God and Saviour !

Jesus is said to be the Great God and Saviour by the Apostle Paul Titus 2:13

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

tou megalou qeou kai swthrov hmwn Ihsou Xristou,

Great God and Saviour are conjoined by the conjunction kai/and, not to describe Two Different Persons, But One, as the same conjunction and is used to conjoin God and our Father 1 Thess 1:3

Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

tou qeou kai patrov hmwn

Its the same greek construction and we know that Paul is not describing Two different Persons when He writes " in the sight of God and Our Father !"

 

[savedbygrace57]

Christ is God because He is the Only Potentate !

1 Tim 6:13-16

13I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Many will debate as to who Paul means with these titles, The only potentate, and He only hath immortality and who it is that is being designated the King of Kings and Lord of lords !

Yet, scripture is very plain that this same title belongs to Christ Rev 19:16

And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

So this at the least shows that both the Father and the Son are the One God. In the 1 Tim 6:15 verse, the article precedes both designations, so if Christ and the Father are not one in Deity, then the article means nothing since Two separate entities are both King of Kings and Lord of Lords. If Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, He is also the only Potentate as well !

 

[childeye]

Jesus said I and my Father are One.

 

[reformed baptist]

The age ole question, Many have even fought over this. I pray to Jehovah God our Heavenly Father for guidance and through many years of study and conversation I pray these statements to be true.

Shall we go through them one by one!

1.One Jesus Christ without any doubt was the Messiah .

OK

2. He is also The Living (Actual) Word of Jehovah God

I do not know what actual means, perhaps this is a refernce to John 1:1, but it needs some explanation.

3. He is the Only Begotten Son of Jehovah God

Yes, but you do understand what 'only begotten' means. It relates to the position of privilidge and not natural birth. Isaac is referred to as Abrahams 'only begotten' in Hebrews 11:17, yet he has many children, including Ishmael.

4. He is known as the Lamb (Of God)

ok, but again what does that mean?

5. We know Christ Jesus was tempted and that according to scripture Jehovah God Cannot be tempted by Evil

Interesting that when we come to ones that you think support your Hypothesis there is more detail :D

In his Humanity though Jesus could be tempted, but due also to his divine nature he simply could not sin, thaqt means his temptations must have been terrible, imagine have the devil attcaking you, but it meeting with nothing inside, he couldn't give in as we do.

We should also note that during his temptations the Lord Jesus Christ responds to satan by saying to him (Matthew 4:7) Jesus said to him, "It is written again,`You shall not tempt the LORD your God.'" So too things, if God cannot be tempted (in any sense) the text he quotes from Deut is superflous, and also as he applies this text to his situation clearly he is claiming that he himself is God.

6. We also know Christ Jesus Died and arose again, whereas Jehovah God cannot Die for He is Eternal.

This is a catagory error, for death and time are different things.

7. We know there are three who bear Witness The Father and The Son And the Holy Spirit ( In the the Greek the phrase: ( and they are One) is not present.

Years of study, tell me what were you studying my freind, not textual appartus that is for sure. The whole of the phrase "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1Jo 5:7 KJV)" is not found in a single manuscript that predates Erasmuses first two editions of the TR. So actually in the greek, none of this phrase is there at all my friend.

8. Jesus himself said His Heavenly Father was Greater

Yet he also claims equality with the father, John 10:30. You have to diferentiate between ontological statements and economical statements.

9. We Also Know from Scripture no man has ever seen Jehovah God.

No, we know that no one has every seen the father, John 6:46. So again an arguement that does not make your point! In Isaiah 6 who does Isaiah see, does he see the 'Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God Almighty' or not? Did he see God or does scripture lie?

Now if he saw God, and if no one has seen the father at any time - who did he see? Another member of the trinity perhaps, one who is the express image of the father, namely the son, heb 1:3

10 We also Know His name was Emanuel ( Translated meaning God with Us) Well of course he was with us, His love his grace and his Mercy was fully on display. God sent all of that in the form of his very Word.

no, the names means 'God with us' ie manifest in the flesh. Clearly this name brings divinity to Jesus!

11. We also know that Jesus told Phillip if you've seen me, you've seen the Father. Why did Christ Jesus say this: Because He was everything God stood for: Faith Hope and Charity. He was a Messenger of that Faith Hope and Charity. He was here to do His Father's work.

or simply, because he was, and is God!

Now, We also know from Old Testament that Jesus was in the bosom of Jehovah God, I believe this is meant as a statement that; Jehovah God Has His Begotten Son In his heart and when the time came That Love became the Word and was transferred to The Virgin Mary.

A typical 'oneness' arguement, but already disproven from Isaiah 6.

Hence in the original Greek John 1:1 is as follows: In the Beginning was the Word and the word was with God and God was the Word. However the error in the K.J.V version is the last phrase which was turned (The Word is God) to indicate That The Word (Christ Jesus) was actually God Himself descending from heaven.

Your years of study didn't include Greek either then did they my freind. I can only assume you base this understanding on lack of knowledge as to how the artcial works in the greek. In kai theos en ho logos. The artical simply functions in distinguishing between the subject and the predicate, as robertson makes clear;

"The subject is made plain by the article (ho logos) and the predicate without it (theos)"

Hence the only way this statement can be translated is 'the word was God' there is no other possible translation at all.

This we know from scripture cannot be true because Jehovah God is Eternal and can not be tempted by Evil. However in Jehovah God's Infallible wisdom He did send His Very (Word) This is what is meant by The last phrase: God was the Word. This tells us that The part of Christ Jesus which was God Himself was His Voice.

Rhema, not Logos but be the word use by John if that was the case my friend.

Therefore God could Sacrifice His Word Or Love ( Remember Bosom) Through the Only Gate he could: His Only Begotten Son. For God so Loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son, That whosoever believe in Him ( Christ Jesus) would not perish but would have everlasting life. (John3:16) The very basics of The Gospel. Therefore to claim that Jesus Christ is not Jehovah God's Only Begotten you would be considered Antichrist. Therefore as for me and my family we believe this: Jesus is The Only Begotten Son He is also Jehovah God's word (Heart-Love) Made Flesh. So when you ask me who is Christ Jesus? I will tell you He is The Living Word and The Only begotten Son.
God Bless you All

But you will not say that he is God, and therefore you doctrine remains antibiblical, as John warns of in 2 John, if you do not have the father and the son, you do not have God my friend (2 John v9)

Amen.

 

[savedbygrace57]

If Christ, though being a Man to die for sinful men [The Elect],yet if He also be not God, the Infinite Being, then He falls well short of the standard that was needed to satisfy the Justice and righteous demands of an Infinite Being, in the place of many, even a number that no man can number !

 

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Peter Identifies Christ as Jehovah ! - Today, 10:05 AM

The Deity or that Jesus is God is seen by Peter identifying Jesus Christ as the LORD of hosts Isa 8:13-15

13Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.

14And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

15And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

Now who can deny that in the above verses Jehovah of Hosts is in view ?

Now lets cp Isa 8:13 with 1 Pet 3:15

15But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Now in some greek manuscripts the word Christ is present in the place of God. And it is good reason to apply it to Christ. First because of vs 14

14But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;

Suffering for righteousness sake is associated with suffering for Christ's name sake as here Acts 9:16

For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

Phil 1:29

For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Acts 5:41

And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.

Secondly because of a comparison of 1 Pet 3:14 with Rom 9:33

33As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

The stumblingstone and rock of offence is Christ !

1 Pet 2:7-8

7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

So its concluded that scripture confirms through Peter's writings, inspired writings that Jesus Christ is also the LORD of Hosts in flesh, as a Man !