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WHY ISN'T THIS GENERATION GETTING MARRIED?

WIP well its Illinois so it's no shocker. Still we're in perilous times, whether you see it or not, I actually know evil is everywhere right now, and not enough people are stopping it. When, up is down, good is bad and bad is good; and all the devils are on earth, we're facing Revelations. I forgot where it is in the Bible but when things are this way you have to pretty much stick to the path God has shown you. Because evil right now is attacking the good and there's a lack of protection. If I were to go to a different job, for an example I wouldn't know anyone there and they wouldn't know me so guess who's first on the list to get booted, most likely me. I've been with the same job for at least 7 years so if things do turn for the worse, I may still have a job. Even if i do get fired i know people in my area, they may give a lending hand. Moving to a foreign place isnt going to work. And I already have a place so it's best to stick with it to ride it out, if it gets better then I can then make the change. Or if God has a different plan he will make it aware, hopefully. Even then when things got better I was offered the job I'm at now. It can happen again. Just gotta ride out the potential storm.
 
Highway54 said:
I would say that you are correct maam.

Look at it this way, if God doesn't exist, what does it matter, it might turn out to be like Gort on the movie The Day the Earth Stood still. They maintained the peace.

If God does exist however, as we have seen He will step in when the time is appropriate, so nothing we can do will end us. Time alone will reveal the truth.
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Sorry for the delay.
You say that nothing we can do will end us.
I think it's the opposite.
A nuclear war could end us.
AI could end us if it's turned against us.
I mean, I think it's pretty dumb to make something smarter than we are.
And that could THINK....
and not having a conscience or a moral code of its own.
Sounds very dangerous to me.
Elon Musk has called for a halt to this science, but knowing mankind,
there will be no halt.

Guess this has nothing to do with shy young folk don't like getting married anymore...
unless the robots get married!
LOL (not really too funny).
 
MayGodHeal said:
BroRoyVa79 wondering I think you're confusing hopelessness with the reality of things that we're not solving issues that can be solved.

Yeah, the future looks bleak when we allow Satan to control us. Americans for an example allows this. But that's besides the point, when humanity doesn't care then should I be concerned with getting married, have kids? It's not the fact that bad things happen it's the fact we allow them to happen when its solvable.

I pay taxes so we have roads to drive on but they're not being maintained yet society still pays those taxes. Instead we have politicians using those taxes to buy things we don't really need. We need better roads, that's what our tax money is for. Then it's an excuse to raise our taxes.

When you no longer have a society working together it makes it difficult to survive. I know our ancestors lived on less but at the same time it's all they knew and needed at the time.

My point being if you want people to get married and have kids you need a strong foundation. I don't have enough money to date anyone. It's not a big deal because I'm not concerned with that. Been trying to get people to think and see what's around them but some just want to drink, flirt with women and have a good time, not worrying about earths political and spiritual problems.

To me that's just mindless procreation, in a constant cycle and you're just like a hamster running on a wheel. But then they complain when everything is expensive and they can't do the things they used to or whatever. And that's fine.. however it's just a disconnect from the reality of things.

It's like this wheel bearing/hub assembly on my car. I keep hitting potholes on that particular one and already replaced it twice, one due to old age and again for hitting a pothole. Of course hitting another pothole its making noise again.

I'm trying to make it last and I know eventually it will need replacing, being on the driveline side, dont want it locking up. Now I'm worried about it, because I don't want to be stuck on the side of the highway if it does fall apart or damage my transmission. The right thing to do is to just replace it, but I'm out $200 on something that had replaced twice already

Of course that's not my point here. My point is some people will ignore it until their car doesn't move and then a $200 fix turns into a $2,000+ nightmare. And this is how our society operates. We wait until disaster happens. Now in my case with my limited income I'm kind of forced to hold off on replacing it, I also got another side that the sensor is malfunctioning and normally if the bad wheel bearing isnt functioning good enough it would set off the sensor, but with the other side not working right (which may also need to be replaced then, which I had just also done) I don't have that information where if the bad side has a problem it would show up on the dash, prompting me to just replace it.

So I gotta operate on blind faith that I would get enough warning where I gotta get the car to the shop. But well its making noise under 50mph and in some cases 55 (hard to tell with the engine drone).

But if you are just running on blind faith you're going to have problems. Now I may not have kids, but I still have money problems. And I see that we're living in a society where we gotta spend more money despite we don't have enough money.

Getting married for me isn't a priority. I stated why. We got a lot of problems that need addressing. I think we need to work with what have we have and get through it to make the world a better place so we're not burdened by everyday life.
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Hi MayGodHeal,
Although I agree with all you've said above, I must say that the final outcome of what you state is far from what I believe.

No matter what society is doing, solving big problems or not, we, as individuals can still make the best of what we have.

Persons have always gotten married, even when things were much worse than they are today.
Two of my aunts (in Italy) got married about 10 years after WWII. They didn't worry about what society was doing.
They wanted to get married and start a family of their own.

We can't wait for everything to be perfect in order for us to do the best we can with our lives.

No. There's something else going on.
Maybe we've all become too selfish and cannot give of ourselves to others?
I'm not sure. Maybe it's fear of what could happen because marriage is in such a delicate state these days?

This is the reason I started this thread....to find out what some reasons are.
Everyone that has stated their personal belief in a post did not mention the government, except for one member that stated there are not enough government programs to help the needy with their life.

Yes. I think the reasons lie elsewhere.
 
Lalas said:
Pretty much what others said. The way I see it, financial problems is one of the major reasons why people hold back on getting married and/or having kids these days. Raising children can be expensive in today's economy as it usually means one of the spouses will need to pull back from working to take care of the children for many years. With the rising cost of food, gas, etc. and the fluctuation of interest rates, it's no wonder people are choosing either to not have kids or delay having them.

Then there are couples who sadly cannot have kids due to their medical condition. Some couples have been wanting children of their own for years but they were unable to conceive or they miscarried. While they would love to adopt if they could, their financial status does not allow for such luxury.

Then there is the issue of climate change, gender dysphoria, politics and the state of the world, Covid pandemic (which is still ongoing), possible nuclear war, possible biological warfare, etc. etc. People are not as motivated to commit to one person and start a family in an apocalyptic world we are seemingly heading towards. The mentality is "Why bother when everything will soon crumble down?"

You could also say sin is a huge factor in preventing young people from getting married since pre-marital sex is so widely available to anyone these days. Then there are more people who are questioning their sexuality and sexual orientation, where they cannot ascertain whether they want to be male or female, even. In their quest to discover themselves, they are not as eager to find their life-long partner just yet.

Plus, younger people appear to have a more materialistic view on marriage than the generations of the past; they want the whole package before they walk down the aisle-- a nice house or a penthouse apartment, a fancy car, an ability to go on Instagram-worthy vacations and eat out at expensive restaurants, and a 3-carat diamond ring they can proudly showcase to everyone on their Facebook page. Perhaps not all young people fall into this category, but there seems to be a trend that the vast majority of people consider as standard now a days.

As someone said before, marriage seems to be the last resort and not a primary goal anymore.
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Hi Lalas,
Welcome to the forum!

Please see my post no. 223 and maybe you could tell us why you don't agree with it.
Also, BroRoyVa79 has posted some excellent posts...I agree with him wholeheartedly.

Why do you suppose we of the older generation think so differently than the younger generation?
Is it only materialism as you seem to suggest?
 
wondering I think the basic premise is what people see and what they're aware of. I recently read an article on an inbred family and I was thinking what caused them to inbreed? Potentially they were never aware they had to seek out a partner other than their own family to avoid having severe defects.

The same is for every person. Yes I grew up in a broken home so its possible I always go through the same "well don't have enough money so I'm just going to live within my means". I do see there is a lot of evil which also had consumed my family, my fathers side mother threw temper tantrums when things didn't go her way. Bless my grandfather for putting up with her daily, I would have just fallen apart in either frustration or grief over being married with someone spoiled and controlling.

We allowed America to fall apart and be controlled by evil today. That's not just the only reason but the drive to get married and have a family just isn't there.

Yesterday a co worker came in for his shift around 2:15pm and out of the blue when talking about other workers being on vacation to go to Vegas in the Casino, "there's a lot of ladies there". I don't believe in gambling due to it can turn into an addiction, but I did contemplate in putting in $50 to see if I'd get anything back. But well of course my issues stem deeper. I also have led the evil control me as well back then, thinking I was never good enough to be with anyone. But now it's just that I don't have the interest.

I do feel tired mentally as I've been battling with evil for so long. But realistically you want a good foundation for a family and people don't feel as if they have an adequate amount of money. Is it an excuse? Well they may do it regardless. Some people will have a family no matter what they have. Others feel they're not going to be good parents. Some are not good parents yet they have kids anyway.

When things are rough some people will be too scared to have a family especially if they're not really trying to have one. When I was making a lot of money I was saving I was interested in someone at work who I thought was single at first because she kept trying to get my attention but later on found out she was married and then things fell apart. Wasn't interested in looking for someone before then and the fact I lost overtime hours, taxes went up then Covid hit it was like a slap of reality in the face. Other women at work have been trying to get me interested, I deflected and went to Instagram instead to show interest in women. In my mind I thought if I focused on women elsewhere the ones at work wouldnt be after me. And as it turned out they're just looking for attention and want money, or rather be pampered with food and potentially a sleeping buddy...

Yeah and even at church this lady went on about gun control, protesting guns and I knew she was the wrong person, nothing wrong with that it was just the fact she instantly was the wrong person for me. And my step mom tries to set me up with a blind date. All this is just deterring me from that and its always been that way. And yeah I probably let evil control me but that's really no different from the rest of society.
 
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Wondering, a simple answer to all of our collective problems will undoubtedly be rooted in sin. However, I think a lot of the younger people in our generation are discouraged from the prospect of getting married and having kids due to economical reasons. I'm not suggesting this is the sole reason nor how it ought to be, but based on the premise of what I have seen and heard from others this is what I conclude.

As mentioned in my previous post before, there is also the prevalence of sexual sin that is permeating in our world which decreases the need for marriage-- at least from the secular perspective which also happens to be the dominant one, sadly.

And of course there will be always be challenges in this world that will be unsolvable by human standards. Yes, I understand very well that older generations might have tolerated and endured more difficulties, but could this be because that was part of their widely accepted culture back then? This was their strength.

I've heard that back in 1950's most families lived on a single income (usually the dad worked full time while mom stayed home to take care of the kids) because that was the social norm. And those same men usually worked for the same company for like 40-50 years until they retired (again, this was the culture back then).

In 2023, especially in the area where I live, many families will run into financial ruin and bankruptcy if they relied solely on a single income. Both partners have to work full time (or one of them needs to while the other works part time). For this reason alone, I know of several couples who have delayed having a child or they simply decided not to have one at all. Also, most people at my work who are younger than 30 years old do not stay in the same company for more than 2 years. They all move on pretty quickly after getting their "foot in the door". This is the new "norm". Not just at my workplace, but also at my friends' workplaces, neighbours' workplaces, etc.

It is easy for someone to ask, "Well, the older generation stuck through all of their ordeals and still got married and had children, so why can't the younger generation do exactly that?" Good question.

There seems to be a shift in our culture that places less emphasis on marriage and more on personal autonomy, happiness, and even survival. Part of that influence comes from social media, consumerism, materialism, secular values, the school system, the way younger generation has been brought up, etc. etc. But in general, from what I have seen and heard, the issue almost always comes down to money. Not in all cases, I'm sure, but it is definitely a strong factor and a valid concern for many people.

And what if a young couple sacrifices everything to get married and have children? The Stats in Canada (where I live) shows that divorce rate is 40-50% for first marriages. Many young people come from broken homes where they have witnessed firsthand the pain and grief of living through their parents' divorce and child custody battles. Combine that with economic hardship and growing pressure to live up to the standards of the wealthy, successful, and picture-perfect people on social media (along with other complex problems present in this world) and it is not hard to imagine why younger people are not seeking marriage.

Perhaps the changing attitude of the younger generation is reflective of our time. As the Bible states, the love of many has grown cold because of lawlessness (Matthew 24:12). Younger people's decision to not marry and have children may not entirely be their "fault" because their choices are in many ways a by product of how our society has shaped their way of thinking, believing, and living. And as I've mentioned before, we could be nearing the end times as more and more of our societal values do not align with God's teachings anymore.

I mean, how do we "move" from a society that still loves the Lord and follows His commands to a society that will one day be ruled and oppressed by the antichrist? There has to be some sort of a transitionary period where there will be a lot of confusion and spiritual clashes. Maybe the younger generation's refusal to get married is just the beginning of what is to come?
 
wondering said:
Sorry for the delay.
You say that nothing we can do will end us.
I think it's the opposite.
A nuclear war could end us.
AI could end us if it's turned against us.
I mean, I think it's pretty dumb to make something smarter than we are.
And that could THINK....
and not having a conscience or a moral code of its own.
Sounds very dangerous to me.
Elon Musk has called for a halt to this science, but knowing mankind,
there will be no halt.

Guess this has nothing to do with shy young folk don't like getting married anymore...
unless the robots get married!
LOL (not really too funny).
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The only way that can happen is if God doesn't exist, or He is a liar. It is true that God is going to allow us to go to the point of extinction, but on account of the chosen ones, He has promised to cut those days short. Mat 24:22

One thing else to consider, if God doesn't exist, or is a liar, then we are simply a freak of nature without hope, merely existence for a short time.
 
I thought this was a pretty good video explaining why guys aren't getting married. I've always liked Douglas. Him and Hitchens had some really great battles back in the day.

 
Riven said:
Yikes.

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Well she just list the reasons men are not dating or getting married. They want a man who is basically a fictional character and want that romance. Basically men are turning around doing the same.

When I stated in rough times people are less likely to date, get married and have kids. Really, the women expect you to have enough money which yeah, not every woman is like that but they do expect too much these days which is among the biggest problems.

In my case it either didn't feel right, they were already taken or not interested. Now its like why bother, if other people make it difficult for you to even make a proper living so really that video explains quite a lot and it exposes the reasons why men are not interested, even women the same way.

In my case mostly it seems women at work that are 20 years younger than me, married women or women with boyfriends are trying to hook up with me, most likely as a fling as well and really it's the one thing I wont do. Even with one lady who really wanted to be with me, she couldnt respect her family so I never went with that.

And of course another chance I had with someone i didnt take because at the time I wasn't interested in Church or Christianity despite growing up in a Christian home. But I also came from a broken home so I basically just trotted past the dating thing anyway.

Then women you date expect marriage despite the fact maybe you want to get to know them better to see if you would get along with them because you're spending the rest of your life with them and instead of hiding out in your workshop all the time you'd be with your significant other and in some cases if you're lucky you'd spend time with them in your workshop.

Theres a guy on YouTube, sleeperdude who works/revives old cars with his family. Yeah even the girls are getting oily/greasy, whether it's for show or not that's really an ideal family which you don't always get.

But basically less people are getting married and starting families due to a lot of these factors of expecting too much but not meeting those expectations. It's on both sexes as well. The question is it because of so much evil in the world right now or is it because we need to settle back?

Climate change hysteria is a huge factor and a lot of uncertainty right now. With in my case where basically a lot of things are difficult to obtain, like difficulties on finding a lasting job, having enough money for my needs and yes finding a woman who isn't romancing movie scripts as her ideal man or whatever crazy expectations they got which is turning men away.

Basically if God hasn't really placed you in a position to be with someone at the right moment then I think God isn't providing you with someone. I missed opportunities but because my thoughts wasn't aligned that just ended up being, it wasn't meant to be. And during that time with this Christian lady I didn't pursue, I had questions that needed answers let alone actually my life as a Christian wasn't there.

And this to me either I let evil push me and/or there just wasn't enough good in my life, which today I still am struggling with.
 
MayGodHeal said:
Well she just list the reasons men are not dating or getting married. They want a man who is basically a fictional character and want that romance. Basically men are turning around doing the same.

When I stated in rough times people are less likely to date, get married and have kids. Really, the women expect you to have enough money which yeah, not every woman is like that but they do expect too much these days which is among the biggest problems.

In my case it either didn't feel right, they were already taken or not interested. Now its like why bother, if other people make it difficult for you to even make a proper living so really that video explains quite a lot and it exposes the reasons why men are not interested, even women the same way.

In my case mostly it seems women at work that are 20 years younger than me, married women or women with boyfriends are trying to hook up with me, most likely as a fling as well and really it's the one thing I wont do. Even with one lady who really wanted to be with me, she couldnt respect her family so I never went with that.

And of course another chance I had with someone i didnt take because at the time I wasn't interested in Church or Christianity despite growing up in a Christian home. But I also came from a broken home so I basically just trotted past the dating thing anyway.

Then women you date expect marriage despite the fact maybe you want to get to know them better to see if you would get along with them because you're spending the rest of your life with them and instead of hiding out in your workshop all the time you'd be with your significant other and in some cases if you're lucky you'd spend time with them in your workshop.

Theres a guy on YouTube, sleeperdude who works/revives old cars with his family. Yeah even the girls are getting oily/greasy, whether it's for show or not that's really an ideal family which you don't always get.

But basically less people are getting married and starting families due to a lot of these factors of expecting too much but not meeting those expectations. It's on both sexes as well. The question is it because of so much evil in the world right now or is it because we need to settle back?

Climate change hysteria is a huge factor and a lot of uncertainty right now. With in my case where basically a lot of things are difficult to obtain, like difficulties on finding a lasting job, having enough money for my needs and yes finding a woman who isn't romancing movie scripts as her ideal man or whatever crazy expectations they got which is turning men away.

Basically if God hasn't really placed you in a position to be with someone at the right moment then I think God isn't providing you with someone. I missed opportunities but because my thoughts wasn't aligned that just ended up being, it wasn't meant to be. And during that time with this Christian lady I didn't pursue, I had questions that needed answers let alone actually my life as a Christian wasn't there.

And this to me either I let evil push me and/or there just wasn't enough good in my life, which today I still am struggling with.
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Shoot I know Monica and my wife garden together when they visit my house or we go see Monica .rabbits ,chickens ,other live stock .

As far as racing and body work .Monica has done that with her uncle .she is into trucks .

She has used my tools to remove parts to be painted .
 
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