Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

[gordon777]

Covid and this world teaches us nothing, the Anointing in us teaches us all things already.

That is why we have no need for any men of this world to teach us anything at all. When they do anyway, we know they haven't got a clue about anything really.




John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

 

[eddif]

To dwell in the secret lace of the Most High, is to abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

God sent the Son to sit upon the throne in Zion.

The covenant was given by the Son, ( His covenant by His blood) so we sit upon that throne with Him in Zion for ever.

For the Lord has chosen Zion, desired it for His habitation. That is His rest for ever, here He dwells, for He desired it. 9 Jesus glorified entered into His glorious rest and glory)





Psalm 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

Psalm 132:11 The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.
12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.
13 For the Lord hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
14 This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it.

Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Luke 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?





The High and Holy One although lofty, humbled Himself to come to earth, ( our King of kings, meek lowly riding upon an ass)

Also Jesus Christ dwells with those who are of a contrite and of a humble spirit, to revive our spirit and our heart.





Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.



Therefore we judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, to make manifest the counsels of the heart ( as He dwells with those of the heart of the contrite) then everyone will have praise of God ( for that counsel of the heart)

Thus are the secrets of the heart made manifest, when it is reported that God is in us of a truth. How is it ? Let all be done unto edifying. ( explaining everything for us)

That is the hidden man of the heart, it is not corruptible as God revived the heart of the contrite ones, the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, ( in the sight of God of great price as God desired to dwell here for ever.) as God came to revive the spirit of the humble.





1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

1 Corinthians 14:25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

1 Peter 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

Ok
Can you seperate the shadow experience from the ultimate reality.

IMHO they are mixed together in your post.

And really I apologize for the pain in the question. If 20 yeasts ago I was asked that question it would have had no real meaning to me. I might have had a hint, but no real description.

eddif

 

[eddif]

2 Corinthians 2:11 kjv
11. Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Looking at the discord of Satan we learn.
Wise as serpents harmless as doves.

eddif

 

[eddif]

Covid and this world teaches us nothing, the Anointing in us teaches us all things already.

That is why we have no need for any men of this world to teach us anything at all. When they do anyway, we know they haven't got a clue about anything really.




John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

You really have a good grasp of what the full good end will be at the last trump. Or phrased another way what the condition will be at the resurrection.

However, IMHO the resurrection has not passed yet, and in this thread OzSpen has laid out the Spiritual Gifts given to us to work against evil in this shadow world we live in. We are not yet what we will be. Christ is in us here, and we are in Christ as he is seated on the right hand of the Father. We still resist evil now.
Sin no longer has dominion over us, because of the sacrifice Jesus did.

Psalms 23 has the benefits in the present life, the shadow of death, and eternal life in the future.

Death (eternal separation from God) is now symbolized by physical death. At the judgement Satan will be cast eternally into the lake of fire. Completing fully the work of the cross we see as completed
In the future.

eddif

 

[for_his_glory]

Talk about making the scripture say what you want it to say.

Have you ever sat through a Catholic Mass? It is all that @Muno has explained. And no I am not Catholic, but do like the structure of the Mass in the teaching and the prayers. (But not about praying to Mary which I will not discuss)

 

[for_his_glory]

There is no difference whatsoever in Catholic, or Protestant, all are divided churches, all have supported wars, killing, everything that is bad is connected with the preachers, who support war as long as their side wins, and with the congregations, they encourage to go and fight in wars.

Even army chaplains, gives away the game of everybody joined to a church in this entire world.


The church does not have Jesus Christ as its chief corner stone for nothing, with the Apostles and prophets. It is because that is the original way to follow, and there is no other, and everybody who came after them, did not continue ion from their way( to harmlessly lay their lives down till the death) they all took part in wickedness, until this day. ( looking at the Russian Eastern Orthodox church)



Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;



The true church was hidden away,, it was holy and harmless, without blame, see it or don't ( and I can show it so much more against anyone who decides to try to oppose it, as it is a LIVING CHURCH.)




1 Peter 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.


2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

Something to think about. Is God's true church a four walled building with a name out front of it calling themselves to be that of God's true religion, or is God's true church the body of Christ that are in Christ and He in them according to Galatians 3:28-29; Colossians 1:18; James 1:47

 

[gordon777]

Ok
Can you seperate the shadow experience from the ultimate reality.

IMHO they are mixed together in your post.

And really I apologize for the pain in the question. If 20 yeasts ago I was asked that question it would have had no real meaning to me. I might have had a hint, but no real description.

eddif

Just because one word says shadow, does not mean shadows are mixed with reality.

To sit under the shadow of the Lord, is for the Lord to be every protection for us, it is to honour Him, who guards us even though we are so inferior to Him ( who is all things)

 

[gordon777]

2 Corinthians 2:11 kjv
11. Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Looking at the discord of Satan we learn.
Wise as serpents harmless as doves.

eddif

Are you going to miss the point in what you quoted just now ?


The devices of satan are to be as the real serpent, which is wicked and evil, to encourage endless talk in peiople, instead of a beginning for care from then, in the real world.



Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;




1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

 

[gordon777]

However, IMHO THE RESURRECTION HAS NOT PASSED YET, and in this thread OzSpen has laid out the Spiritual Gifts given to us to work against evil in this shadow world we live in. We are not yet what we will be. Christ is in us here, and we are in Christ as he is seated on the right hand of the Father. We still resist evil now.
Sin no longer has dominion over us, because of the sacrifice Jesus did.

Psalms 23 has the benefits in the present life, the shadow of death, and eternal life in the future.

Death (eternal separation from God) is now symbolized by physical death. At the judgement Satan will be cast eternally into the lake of fire. Completing fully the work of the cross we see as completed
In the future.

eddif

You are mixing up things again.


Why do you assume you can keep correcting me on anything, when I am showing the verses as they speak.


You cant speak of a verse for a moment, ( talking of the resurrection not past) without looking at what is said, AND IT speaks against what you just invented.( anyone who does these methods you keep doing, wont be able to answer why they did not stop when told to stop soon)




The faith is overthrown of some, when the message of the deceivers Is accepted, who say we cannot be a vessel unto honour to God now.

Every one who names the name of Christ are His, and they depart from iniquity( that is the seal of truth)

Nothing about shadow world and spiritual gifts to work against evil, but just belief to not be the vessel unto dishonour ( in shadows) and to purge ourselves from those, to be all we can be in Jesus Christ NOW.





2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

 

[gordon777]

Something to think about. Is God's true church a four walled building with a name out front of it calling themselves to be that of God's true religion, or is God's true church the body of Christ that are in Christ and He in them according to Galatians 3:28-29; Colossians 1:18; James 1:47

Do you want to see again about James 1:27 ?

God does not dwell in temples made with hands. 9 Acts 17:24) not in STONE BUILDINGS, but in fleshy tables of the heart. ( 2 Corinthians 3:3.)




Now, it does not matter what anyone calls themselves, ( a church named Christian does not mean it is Christian)

What matters is most who go in and follow like goats, are hearers only in a church building, hearing some scripture but mostly hearing that man or woman speak, and that is where many have gone wrong.

But who looks instead to the perfect law of liberty and continues therein, not a forgetful hearer( as those who hear somebody who has already forsaken the right way and as testified, speak great swelling words of vanity to allure those who were clean escaped from them, promising them liberty, while they, themselves are the servants of corruption . Servants as in ministers.)

If any say they are religious ( church goers into the trouble the word of God testifies to us about) they need to bridle their tongue, or they continue to deceive their own heart, and their religion is vain ( hearing the great swelling words of vanity, to allure them through the lusts of the flesh.)





James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

 

[for_his_glory]

Do you want to see again about James 1:27 ?

God does not dwell in temples made with hands. 9 Acts 17:24) not in STONE BUILDINGS, but in fleshy tables of the heart. ( 2 Corinthians 3:3.)




Now, it does not matter what anyone calls themselves, ( a church named Christian does not mean it is Christian)

What matters is most who go in and follow like goats, are hearers only in a church building, hearing some scripture but mostly hearing that man or woman speak, and that is where many have gone wrong.

But who looks instead to the perfect law of liberty and continues therein, not a forgetful hearer( as those who hear somebody who has already forsaken the right way and as testified, speak great swelling words of vanity to allure those who were clean escaped from them, promising them liberty, while they, themselves are the servants of corruption . Servants as in ministers.)

If any say they are religious ( church goers into the trouble the word of God testifies to us about) they need to bridle their tongue, or they continue to deceive their own heart, and their religion is vain ( hearing the great swelling words of vanity, to allure them through the lusts of the flesh.)





James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

I think you misunderstood the question I was asking in Post #106.

I gave two thoughts to think about taking from your opening sentence in post #96 trying to show what God's true church is as you said all churches have supported wars, killing, everything that is bad is connected with the preachers, who support war as long as their side wins, and with the congregations, they encourage to go and fight in wars.

Nothing more, nothing less as it was something for all to think about. I know God does not dwell in temples/churches made by hands.

 

[for_his_glory]

Do you want to see again about James 1:27 ?

God does not dwell in temples made with hands. 9 Acts 17:24) not in STONE BUILDINGS, but in fleshy tables of the heart. ( 2 Corinthians 3:3.)




Now, it does not matter what anyone calls themselves, ( a church named Christian does not mean it is Christian)

What matters is most who go in and follow like goats, are hearers only in a church building, hearing some scripture but mostly hearing that man or woman speak, and that is where many have gone wrong.

But who looks instead to the perfect law of liberty and continues therein, not a forgetful hearer( as those who hear somebody who has already forsaken the right way and as testified, speak great swelling words of vanity to allure those who were clean escaped from them, promising them liberty, while they, themselves are the servants of corruption . Servants as in ministers.)

If any say they are religious ( church goers into the trouble the word of God testifies to us about) they need to bridle their tongue, or they continue to deceive their own heart, and their religion is vain ( hearing the great swelling words of vanity, to allure them through the lusts of the flesh.)





James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

I think you misunderstood the question I was asking in Post #106 as something to only think about. I know what God's true Church is about it being the body of Christ with He being the head of the body, Colossians 1:15-23.

 

[andy pandy]

Have you ever sat through a Catholic Mass? It is all that @Muno has explained. And no I am not Catholic, but do like the structure of the Mass in the teaching and the prayers. (But not about praying to Mary which I will not discuss)

Many times. and I have a booklet of 36 pages that are intended to explain what it is all about and it was written by a Catholic priest, not a protestant. So far I have not found a 36-page booklet is to be used in scripture just one chapter commonly known as the Lord's prayer.

 

[andy pandy]

There is no difference whatsoever in Catholic, or Protestant, all are divided churches, all have supported wars, killing, everything that is bad is connected with the preachers, who support war as long as their side wins, and with the congregations, they encourage to go and fight in wars.

Even army chaplains, gives away the game of everybody joined to a church in this entire world.


The church does not have Jesus Christ as its chief corner stone for nothing, with the Apostles and prophets. It is because that is the original way to follow, and there is no other, and everybody who came after them, did not continue ion from their way( to harmlessly lay their lives down till the death) they all took part in wickedness, until this day. ( looking at the Russian Eastern Orthodox church)



Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;



The true church was hidden away,, it was holy and harmless, without blame, see it or don't ( and I can show it so much more against anyone who decides to try to oppose it, as it is a LIVING CHURCH.)




1 Peter 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.


2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

what is it are you trying to say as it all seems very complicated?

 

[eddif]

It will take a miracle.

James 1:27 kjv
27. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Just what does this verse say?

Over and over this thread has said religion is in terrible shape.

The Jews were elevated and the gentiles were subdued. The mountain must be brought down and the valley filled in to get a level existence.

The Church should be populated by one new man. The one new man is made of Jew and gentile.

Do we want to be religious or do we want to be Christians ?

We could set off an atomic bomb and level everything at once, and (kill everyone with the experience). Don’t worry Armageddon will come, but most see it in the future.

Oh yes James 1:27
Redneck version
Bad religion is to visit widows and orphans in their afflictions and keep himself pure.

Ok wrong.

Good Christianity is to deliver widows and orphans from their afflictions while you yourself suffer

1 Corinthians 4:13 kjv
13. Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and arethe offscouring of all things unto this day.

Either we look like the religion we run down or we are spotted by the world.

2 Corinthians 10:5 kjv
5. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
7. Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

Deliverance is Christian. To visit is religion.

You know: say be filled and do nothing for the body.

It takes the spiritual gifts to get this done. Stephen had this job. Look at his life. Was he elevated, or put 6 foot under? (Spotted)

Acts 6:1 kjv
1. And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.

Read the whole story.

eddif

 

[gordon777]

The whole story is not people neglecting in daily ministration.


The whole story is the whole final judgement.



Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[for_his_glory]

Many times. and I have a booklet of 36 pages that are intended to explain what it is all about and it was written by a Catholic priest, not a protestant. So far I have not found a 36-page booklet is to be used in scripture just one chapter commonly known as the Lord's prayer.

Have you ever read the many pages of the by-laws in your own church in how it is to be operated?
Never put down that of another's religion, even if you disagree with it as that is a violation of the ToS 1.4. Keep that in mind.

 

[for_his_glory]

It will take a miracle.

James 1:27 kjv
27. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Just what does this verse say?

Over and over this thread has said religion is in terrible shape.

The Jews were elevated and the gentiles were subdued. The mountain must be brought down and the valley filled in to get a level existence.

The Church should be populated by one new man. The one new man is made of Jew and gentile.

Do we want to be religious or do we want to be Christians ?

We could set off an atomic bomb and level everything at once, and (kill everyone with the experience). Don’t worry Armageddon will come, but most see it in the future.

Oh yes James 1:27
Redneck version
Bad religion is to visit widows and orphans in their afflictions and keep himself pure.

Ok wrong.

Good Christianity is to deliver widows and orphans from their afflictions while you yourself suffer

1 Corinthians 4:13 kjv
13. Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and arethe offscouring of all things unto this day.

Either we look like the religion we run down or we are spotted by the world.

2 Corinthians 10:5 kjv
5. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
7. Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

Deliverance is Christian. To visit is religion.

You know: say be filled and do nothing for the body.

It takes the spiritual gifts to get this done. Stephen had this job. Look at his life. Was he elevated, or put 6 foot under? (Spotted)

Acts 6:1 kjv
1. And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.

Read the whole story.

eddif

Like what you gave here as so much truth within your post.

Latin root word for religion is bondage, which is different then that of Gods pure religion of James 1:27, but that of following tradition and the doctrine of a mans church, not Gods true Church. The Latin root word is religare as re is a prefix that means return and ligare means to bind. Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 the same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.​

 

[for_his_glory]

The whole story is not people neglecting in daily ministration.


The whole story is the whole final judgement.



Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

How do we prevent this final judgement in the church? By reading Rev Chapters 2-3 as all churches that claim to be the true Church of God should heed to the instructions of God. The true body of Christ need to present themselves as the Church in Philadelphia.

 

[gordon777]

The words/testimony of Jesus Christ in the Gospels( see my new thread made just now) show how to believe in God. ( what/who to hear, and what/ who, to not hear.)