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Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

In that case, why do we need boards?

In countries where tax deductions have been given to churches, Boards are necessary for government accountability. I don't live in such a country. We do allow tax deductability for Christian developmental organisations such as Compassion International, Samaritan's Purse, etc.

Oz
 
What do you mean a church is a business?
That's why I put it in quotes. Churches are organizations and must be registered with the state as businesses, They are subject to special rules, especially regarding tax liabilities. The must have a masthead, i.e., a board of directors and meet certain legal requirements to be tax-exempt.
 
If the assembling is done according to his will It would be governed by local Elders, not pastors brought in from outside the church.
It is up to the Elders of the Church as Pastors do not run the board nor are they from outside the Church as there should only be one Pastor. There is usually an a assistant Pastor to take over if the regular Pastor is not there. Some Churches have youth Pastors for the teens that can Spiritually relate better with them.
 
That's why I put it in quotes. Churches are organizations and must be registered with the state as businesses, They are subject to special rules, especially regarding tax liabilities. The must have a masthead, i.e., a board of directors and meet certain legal requirements to be tax-exempt.
Actually Churches that meet the requirements of section 501c3 of the IRS Code are automatically considered tax exempt and are not required to apply for and obtain recognition of exempt status from the IRS as they are non-profit separating that from Church and State.
 
Actually Churches that meet the requirements of section 501c3 of the IRS Code are automatically considered tax exempt and are not required to apply for and obtain recognition of exempt status from the IRS as they are non-profit separating that from Church and State.
when we reopened Fairview i had to reapply for several things .i had to get a EIN 2 or 3 state papers i had to apply for . with out the EIN i could not open up a checking account for the Church.
 
Actually Churches that meet the requirements of section 501c3 of the IRS Code are automatically considered tax exempt and are not required to apply for and obtain recognition of exempt status from the IRS as they are non-profit separating that from Church and State.
No,
 

That's a requirement in my state to file this after the IRS form .you can't just form a church and the irs,state just say we can't tax you without a registration
 

Why the Church Gathering Has Changed===== Because man does not want to go...... nothing has changed other than what man wants. there has to be a leader all through out the Bible God appointed man to lead the flock you need to check out the movie trailer little demon .it is %100 satanic backed a woman gets pregnant by the devil has a child names her antichrist. the old saying evil prevails when good men do nothing​

 

That's a requirement in my state to file this after the IRS form .you can't just form a church and the irs,state just say we can't tax you without a registration
There are certain legal requirements to form a non-profit organization but I don't know enough about all the requirements other than there has to be leadership within the organization, but yet we are getting off topic.
 
In countries where tax deductions have been given to churches, Boards are necessary for government accountability. I don't live in such a country. We do allow tax deductability for Christian developmental organisations such as Compassion International, Samaritan's Purse, etc.

Oz
The NTC did not have to worry about tax deductions as they were not registered with the local government.
 
This section of the forum has been very interesting. It has talked about change, the NTC, and the charismatic experience and it seems to me that nearly everyone wants to keep the status quo and believes that the Word of God teaches us nothing about the real church and give the impression the church began a few years ago and what happened before that is irrelevant.

No wonder the church today is like a ship thrashing around at sea without an anchor. The idea seems to be that you can believe what you want about the church but the rule book has been written by denominations and the rule book written by God in his word has been superseded and is no longer relevant.

What is very significant is that Jesus said he would build his church. Not yours or mine. If you are not part of His you are up the creek without a paddle.

I will leave you with a relevant example and that is the behemoth known as Hillsong. it seemed to be unstoppable as it build its kingdom. Notice I said "its" kingdom, not His. There seemed to be no limit to what it could do and achieve. But before our very eyes, it is crumbling to pieces.

I believe the rot started when Brian Houston thought he was invincible. He announced that Hillsong would be its own denomination and that he was to be appointed Global Pastor. What does the scripture say? "I will have no other gods before me" Sounds to me that Brian wanted to usurp God's place.

All it needed was some well hidden indiscretions brought to light and Brian Houston is no more. It remains how long Hillsong will last as already it has been reported that people are exiting the building and not coming back.
 
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As determined and explained from the point of view of the church TODAY. which has no bearing on the NTC
No points of view, but what God has already given for the governing of His true Church. You can reject the scriptures I gave if you want.
 
This section of the forum has been very interesting. It has talked about change, the NTC, and the charismatic experience and it seems to me that nearly everyone wants to keep the status quo and believes that the Word of God teaches us nothing about the real church and give the impression the church began a few years ago and what happened before that is irrelevant.

No wonder the church today is like a ship thrashing around at sea without an anchor. The idea seems to be that you can believe what you want about the church but the rule book has been written by denominations and the rule book written by God in his word has been superseded and is no longer relevant.

What is very significant is that Jesus said he would build his church. Not yours or mine. If you are not part of His you are up the creek without a paddle.

I will leave you with a relevant example and that is the behemoth known as Hillsong. it seemed to be unstoppable as it build its kingdom. Notice I said "its" kingdom, not His. There seemed to be no limit to what it could do and achieve. But before our very eyes, it is crumbling to pieces.

I believe the rot started when Brian Houston thought he was invincible. He announced that Hillsong would be its own denomination and that he was to be appointed Global Pastor. What does the scripture say? "I will have no other gods before me" Sounds to me that Brian wanted to usurp God's place.

All it needed was some well hidden indiscretions brought to light and Brian Houston is no more. It remains how long Hillsong will last as already it has been reported that people are exiting the building and not coming back.
If a Church like that of the first one at Pentecost does not have Spiritual leadership then that church will not be lined up with the will of God for His congregation. It's like the seven churches in Rev 2-3 as each one needs to be like that of the Church in Philadelphia that is led by the Holy Spirit through the council of the Church. Here are a few scriptures about the counsel of God's true Church.

Acts 14:23; 20:28; 1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-16
 
There are certain legal requirements to form a non-profit organization but I don't know enough about all the requirements other than there has to be leadership within the organization, but yet we are getting off topic.
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Church is exempt on certain taxes.emoloyees taxes are to be paid
 
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Church is exempt on certain taxes.emoloyees taxes are to be paid
I can agree with that. We had no paid staff in the last Church we were involved with, except to pay the Pastor a certain percentage of the offering that the board determined to pay so he would not have to work outside the Ministry taking him away from it.
 
I don't reject any scripture. What I reject is your modern-day application of what they mean.
I don't believe in any modern day applications of scripture, but let scripture speak for itself. That shows me that you never went to read the scriptures I gave, or that you do not understand them :shrug
 
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