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Works for Salvation: Humility

Here is something interesting too

At one point I saw a difference between Jesus Christ and Christ Jesus.

This is the difference I received:

That one of those terms refer to Jesus life on
earth and the other is after the ascension.

Usually the kjv makes those distinctions, but may try the Tyndales version to see if there is a difference. Or try the oldest version you can find.

Another words as wondering may have mentioned the name gives meaning to the passage.
 
Here is something Else, and I cant say all the things I mean or don't mean by this:

If Jesus baptism by God through John in water was to reveal Himself to Israel, Then our baptism , calling upon the name of the Lord and the symbol of dying is for Christ in us to reveal God in us or even near us. So it's not a church one has to go to, or a particular mountain top. God is in you "all"!

Recall also that Peter was given the key or keys, cant remember, to the Kingdom so whatever He loosed on earth would be loosed in heaven. But Paul was not sent to water baptize but to preach the gospel. The acceptable year of the lord.

Baptism coming off under the old system and bringing in the new. So now forward we live by the Spirit. This is our governing source of quality life. Another words we come Alive by the Spirit in order to have a relationship and fellowship with God.



Be baptized calling on the name of the Lord- if one can see - people don't call upon the name of the Lord unless they have believed. Calling on the name of the Lord is for this life we now live on earth and we also know that every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Jesus is Lord too.

Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Delivered) God has a way out, and maybe that way out is in the resurrection of Jesus, because we now live in accordance with His grace. For grace are ye saved through faith and this faith is not of yourself it's gift of God. The way out is obedience to God through the living, enduring Spirit of Christ.

Faith to believe that when your natural abilities are not enough God's is.

As the Ark was built to pass through The wrath that God sent to destroy evil on earth, the works of the devil, Hell that is in us goes through the fire. Purifying oneself by obeying Christ. God sends away out and the way is Jesus the Christ.

I believe our process of getting hell out of us start now, baptized with fire is the ultimate goal when we stand in the presence of God. Sanctify them with thy truth, thy word is truth.

Therefore I can see why Willard states something like, Heaven may be Hell for someone who did not want to stay as close to Jesus now, meaning in this life.
 
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You don't need to asked question, you need to trust Jesus.


YOU NEED THE FOUNDATION FIRST. THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

PLUS YOU PUT SCRIPTURES OUT THERE AND NONE OF THEM NEVER MEAN WHAT YOU WRITE BESIDE THEM.

COME OUT OF BABYLON
Please answer
If you believe faith alone
Is one itsy bitsy teeny weeny tiny act of faith enough?

Do you think your saved the first moment you believed?
 
You don't need to asked question, you need to trust Jesus.


YOU NEED THE FOUNDATION FIRST. THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

PLUS YOU PUT SCRIPTURES OUT THERE AND NONE OF THEM NEVER MEAN WHAT YOU WRITE BESIDE THEM.

COME OUT OF BABYLON
How can it be “faith alone” Christ is not a doctrine or set of beliefs but He is our Passover sacrifice and He is our salvation, His person, Lk 2:30 I have seen my Salvation!
We must have union with Christ by faith and baptism. The merits / grace obtained by Christ at the price of His blood applied to our souls by faith and baptism!
 
You don't need to asked question, you need to trust Jesus.


YOU NEED THE FOUNDATION FIRST. THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

PLUS YOU PUT SCRIPTURES OUT THERE AND NONE OF THEM NEVER MEAN WHAT YOU WRITE BESIDE THEM.

COME OUT OF BABYLON
What is Babylon?
 
All that is needed for understanding.
You block your understanding by adding to scripture. "Everyone who is not Baptized is not saved"

believers are not Christians, only catechumens, neophytes learning the faith of Christ!

Faith and baptism are required to be Christian!
 
Please answer
If you believe faith alone
Is one itsy bitsy teeny weeny tiny act of faith enough?

Do you think your saved the first moment you believed?
Jesus's act was not just one teeny weeny act.
Do you ever read what people write.
Gal 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
 
How can it be “faith alone” Christ is not a doctrine or set of beliefs but He is our Passover sacrifice and He is our salvation, His person, Lk 2:30 I have seen my Salvation!
We must have union with Christ by faith and baptism. The merits / grace obtained by Christ at the price of His blood applied to our souls by faith and baptism!
It's faith alone that saves but saving faith is never alone

It's Christ's Faithfulness or the faith of Christ that saves but without Him you won't be saved.

It's the ark alone that saves, but it wont save no one if they don't get in the ark.
 
Jesus's act was not just one teeny weeny act.
Do you ever read what people write.
Gal 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
All 4 examples in the parable of the sower had faith, but only one brought forth fruit unto salvation why?
 
It's faith alone that saves but saving faith is never alone

It's Christ's Faithfulness or the faith of Christ that saves but without Him you won't be saved.

It's the ark alone that saves, but it wont save no one if they don't get in the ark.
It’s impossible for something to be alone and not alone!

The ark is a type of baptism
1 pet 3:20-21
 
It’s impossible for something to be alone and not alone!

The ark is a type of baptism
1 pet 3:20-21
You are blinded by your doctrine come out of babylon my friend.
Matthew 13:13
"Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving."

John 9

For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind…. If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but not that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

John 12

You are going to have the light just a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, before darkness overtakes you. Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light.
 
What you need to come out of.
God says: BAPTISM! Ez 36:25-27
Jesus Christ says: BAPTISM! Mk 16:16 Matt 28:19
Peter says: BAPTISM! Acts 2:38-39 1 pet 3:20-21
Paul says: BAPTISM! 1 cor 13:12 gal 3:27 eph 4:5 Paul is baptized acts 22:16
John says: BAPTISM! Jn 3:5 Jn 3:22
Jn 4:1
Philip says: BAPTISM! Acts 8:36-38
Creeds / Dogma / decree’s of apostolic councils say: BAPTISM!
Church fathers say: BAPTISM!
All true Christians say: Baptism!
 
You are blinded by your doctrine come out of babylon my friend.
Matthew 13:13
"Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving."

John 9

For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind…. If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but not that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

John 12

You are going to have the light just a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, before darkness overtakes you. Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light.
It’s those who reject Christ or his church or his revelation that incur spiritual blindness


Only Christ has authority to establish the church! Matt 16:18-19
One church! Jn 10:16 All others are sects “full of errors” “the tradition of men”! The new covenant Church is the eternal city of God! Household of faith! The pillar and ground of TRUTH! 1 Tim 3:15 Founded by Christ alone! Matt 16:18 on Peter and the apostles! Eph 2:20 Lk 22:29

The 30,000 sects (the tradition of men) having no authority at all! And holding and teaching contrary and new doctrines that oppose the Christian faith that was revealed by Christ and taught by holy mother church! Matt 28:19

Those in error believe on their own private judgement not on the authority of Christ!

What is says is not always what it means.

We must accept the apostolic churches perpetual teaching and the meaning of the church founded by Christ.

Doctrines are to be understood in that sense which the perpetual consent of the Catholic Church hath held and expressed it.

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13) one faith (eph 4:5) the faith delivered to the apostles (Jude 1:3)

Otherwise we fall under the condemnation of scripture!
2 pet 3:16
 
It’s those who reject Christ or his church or his revelation that incur spiritual blindness

Trinchi has gave Revelation you failed to read it.
You posted Scripture numbers without the text. And
People went out of the way to look them up and show you the meaning. Yet you did not read! Nor did you respond to what they explained. You don't see at this point that you have been taken captive through your use of formula. You continue to parrot the same scriptures after you have been given revelation of them. When you don't read them, in my opinion, because I've been there before, you dont read them because you have to believe your formula to be saved or you are not saved;

So look what you are trusting. "That if you are not baptized in water you are not saved," A formula. When the substence of your formula has already been shown to have 🕳 holes.

Check out this logic that may help you:





You do not see that this is not trust in God, it's trusting in a system, a formula, your doctrine. "You are trying to box the way God works " And God is so much more than your box!
Therefore your Spiritual growth unless, God intervenes, is only as far as your knowledge you put in that box.




You do not see that yet, as others who have came out of that Church denomination that you are like the Pharisees that was talked about in the scriptures I quoted.


Your formula falls under works in order to be saved; And not because I dismiss water baptism.

But that you add to it illogically.
And that has been shown so Im not going to reshow it. You can go back and actually read what has been written or check this out:









Only Christ has authority to establish the church! Matt 16:18-19
One church! Jn 10:16 All others are sects “full of errors” “the tradition of men”! The new covenant Church is the eternal city of God! Household of faith! The pillar and ground of TRUTH! 1 Tim 3:15 Founded by Christ alone! Matt 16:18 on Peter and the apostles! Eph 2:20 Lk 22:29

The 30,000 sects (the tradition of men) having no authority at all! And holding and teaching contrary and new doctrines that oppose the Christian faith that was revealed by Christ and taught by holy mother church! Matt 28:19

Those in error believe on their own private judgement not on the authority of Christ!

What is says is not always what it means.

We must accept the apostolic churches perpetual teaching and the meaning of the church founded by Christ.

Doctrines are to be understood in that sense which the perpetual consent of the Catholic Church hath held and expressed it.

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13) one faith (eph 4:5) the faith delivered to the apostles (Jude 1:3)

Otherwise we fall under the condemnation of scripture!
2 pet 3:16
 
You don't need to asked question, you need to trust Jesus.


YOU NEED THE FOUNDATION FIRST. THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

PLUS YOU PUT SCRIPTURES OUT THERE AND NONE OF THEM NEVER MEAN WHAT YOU WRITE BESIDE THEM.

COME OUT OF BABYLON
How can leave church without leaving Christ? Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

If the catholic church is Babylon and not the true church founded by Christ, pray tell exactly what is?
 
Then explain Jn 10:10

And

“Faith alone” Questions

where does ez 36: 25:27 Say “faith alone”?

where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Where does it say we are sealed by faith alone?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

How can you enter by your own if it must be ministered to you? Baptism is done unto you, “not do it yourself by faith alone”

Ministered by the apostolic church!

2 Corinthians 8:19
And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

Jn 3:5 born again by faith alone?

Where is “Accept Christ as your personal lord & savior” is found in scripture?

They did not go preaching this line but went immediately to the river and baptized Jn 3:22

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Eph 4:5 one baptism

Why don’t it say one teeny tiny little act of “faith alone”???

When we first believed we are saved?

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

How can salvation be nearer than when we first believed if you’re saved by believing?

1 pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Matt 24:13 endures to the end Shall be saved.

How can salvation happen when we first believed if it’s the end?

If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!

Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2

Jn 1: 11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (Baptism)
John 1:26
John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6
And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)

John3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)

John 3:22
After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism)

John 4:4
When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Scripture that opposes “Faith alone”!

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 sufferings
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13

Faith, Hope, & Charity!



1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Sound like “faith alone”?

Thanks
Hey All,
I have answered your questions time and time again. It feels like you are ignoring my questions.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
 
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