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Would Hitler been saved if he turned into Jesus?

AIR

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If Hitler wouldn't have died and he found Jesus would he been saved? He did alot of terrible work but if he had turned his face to Jesus, would Jesus forgive him?
 
If he was truly repentant and asked forgiveness for his sins, then according the Bible God would forgive him.
 
If Hitler wouldn't have died and he found Jesus would he been saved? He did alot of terrible work but if he had turned his face to Jesus, would Jesus forgive him?

Hitler was a Christian.

In a speech from April 12, 1922 and published in his book My New Order, Adolf Hitler explains his perspective on Jesus Christ:
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.​
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faith without works is dead... Nobody will go to heaven for simply saying all the right things. Our life is a reflection of our relationship with Christ.

Don't care how warm and fuzzy people want to feel about it. Hitler brought much hell on earth and when he ended his own life, we can see that suicide is the ultimate smack in the face for all the good things God created. Suicide is one of the most selfish things a human can do and selfishness is polar opposite of being a servant.

Talk is cheap and we'll know people by their fruit. Hitler bore no fruit. Let's not lie about this.
Gad I hate hippie love...

and if I might be so bold.... I don't believe in a death bed confession for those who lived an evil life and when faced with death, decide to "change" the way they feel under duress of death. Pharaoh didn't have a chance, why would Hitler. Sometimes judgment comes before death... and causes death. Sometimes somebody is so evil, God sets them as an example.
 
If Hitler wouldn't have died and he found Jesus would he been saved? He did alot of terrible work but if he had turned his face to Jesus, would Jesus forgive him?

I'm sorry AIR, I got so caught up in my rant I didn't address your question.

Yes, if he would have turned his face to Jesus, he would have been saved, but only through repentance because repentance shows the nature of the heart. According to scripture, one stops being a thief when one starts working and giving to the needy. Also, according to scripture, one stop bein a liar not when they stop lying, but rather when they start telling the truth. This is repentance that bears fruit.

As it sits, Hitler bore no fruit, not even to his death. He was a very evil man.
 
Hitler was a Christian.

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In a speech from April 12, 1922 and published in his book My New Order, Adolf Hitler explains his perspective on Jesus Christ:
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.

Sounds like an adorned hate speech against the Jews.... Hitler makes Jesus out to be a modern day Rambo. "They drew first blood!"
 
Look at Paul's life in Acts before his conversation. Did he not say he was the chiefest of sinners especially having Stephen stoned to death and being responsible for numbers of Christian to also be killed while doing this all in the name of God. Pretty much the same as Hitler killing all those Jews. Yes, I believe if God can transform Pauls heart he could also have transformed Hitlers if he would have only turned back and was remorseful for what he had done.
 
Hitler was a Christian.
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That was an interesting read.
And it makes me feel uneasy.
Hitler, like many others in history, misused christianity for his own interpretation that served his own ideology. Maybe he was genuinely christian (or at least he thought so) and wasn't even aware of how he'd been mislead (religiously motivated anitsemitism wasn't new, many had fallen for it since the middle ages). Many Germans were genuinely christian and genuinely believed that Hitler was serving God's will or was chosen by God to righten things in this world, or something like that. They were all terribly mislead, and if so many people could be mislead, then how can we be sure our faith isn't mislead in some way, too.

As for the original question, if you mean to ask whether even the greatest atrocities in human history could be forgiven... yeah I actually hope that forgiveness has no limits. God is greater than our evilness.
 
Any one say they are Christian that is nothing....
What would that say then about the crusades?

Hitler believed he was Christian and in service to Jesus.
History shows he was a psychopath and a man that orchestrated one of the greatest mass murder campaigns in world history. However, he believed he was Christian. And while the world can judge that he was not Christian, what matters is what Hitler thought. And how he acted upon it.
 
If Hitler wouldn't have died and he found Jesus would he been saved? He did alot of terrible work but if he had turned his face to Jesus, would Jesus forgive him?
Yes, he would have been saved if he had truly repented.

Spring Waters said:
If Hitler wouldn't have died and he found Jesus would he been saved? He did alot of terrible work but if he had turned his face to Jesus, would Jesus forgive him?

Hitler was a Christian.

In a speech from April 12, 1922 and published in his book My New Order, Adolf Hitler explains his perspective on Jesus Christ:
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.​
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You cannot be serious. No. No. No. No. No.

From my point of view, this speech by Hitler is a publicity stunt to gain support from the conservatives in Germany. And think about this: Hitler loved order and institutional hierachies. It would serve his purproses to keep many of the churches alive. Take a read at the Wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Religious_views

1922 was a period in time when Hitler had no real power and was still gathering support. This was before his Munich Beer Hall Putsch and his subsequent inprisonment, and before he wrote Mein Kampf. To identify himself with Christianity at this time makes sense. He wanted to resorte the old Germany, and he would need the support of the aristocrats and conservative elites. aka, those who probably go to church.

The article also suggests that Hitler was much more critical of Christianity in private. Even in public, he held a very manipulated view of Christianity that was clearly designed to further his own interests.

Even if Hitler did believe the Bible and did consider himself a Christian, by his actions we know otherwise. We know them by their fruit, and Hitler bore no fruit
 
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJEIQyQKWsw[/video]
Interesting video I came across a while back regarding Hitler's religion. Sources are cited.
 
Yes, he would have been saved if he had truly repented.


You cannot be serious. No. No. No. No. No.

From my point of view, this speech by Hitler is a publicity stunt to gain support from the conservatives in Germany. And think about this: Hitler loved order and institutional hierachies. It would serve his purproses to keep many of the churches alive. Take a read at the Wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Religious_views

1922 was a period in time when Hitler had no real power and was still gathering support. This was before his Munich Beer Hall Putsch and his subsequent inprisonment, and before he wrote Mein Kampf. To identify himself with Christianity at this time makes sense. He wanted to resorte the old Germany, and he would need the support of the aristocrats and conservative elites. aka, those who probably go to church.

The article also suggests that Hitler was much more critical of Christianity in private. Even in public, he held a very manipulated view of Christianity that was clearly designed to further his own interests.

Even if Hitler did believe the Bible and did consider himself a Christian, by his actions we know otherwise. We know them by their fruit, and Hitler bore no fruit

I think if it is a matter of knowing the Christian by their fruits we should be more careful in what we cultivate in ourselves and demonstrate is our faith, for others to witness. A dead German with delusions of ruling the world is long dead. What he believed and what pushed him forward was what he was responsible for in thought and action. Judgment about that exists in this century due to what he did in the last one.

Today is when the individual Christian writes their own history. While dead Nazi's serve as either a terrible warning or a terrible example of where faith and vision can lead.

"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so" Adolf Hitler

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If Hitler wouldn't have died and he found Jesus would he been saved? He did alot of terrible work but if he had turned his face to Jesus, would Jesus forgive him?
Romans 10:13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It doesn't matter what a person has done or not done.
Whosoever means anyone who trusts in the finished work of Jesus and turns to Him shall be saved
 
You cannot be serious. No. No. No. No. No.

From my point of view, this speech by Hitler is a publicity stunt to gain support from the conservatives in Germany.

Some things never change!




Even if Hitler did believe the Bible and did consider himself a Christian, by his actions we know otherwise. We know them by their fruit, and Hitler bore no fruit

Exactly! Hating and killing people because of their race or religion is not godly fruit. And even if he was in the church, going to church doesn't make a person a Christian
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Romans 10:13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It doesn't matter what a person has done or not done.
Whosoever means anyone who trusts in the finished work of Jesus and turns to Him shall be saved

The operative is "Turns to Him". That's an action item that will bear fruit. And not just emotional fruit. For example, if your hungry, I can tel you till I"m blue in the face, "Be blessed and may God provide food for your stomach". That's emotional fruit. Real fruit is, "Here's an apple". Real fruit is tangible, just as the fruits of the Spirit are tangible providing both emotional and physical nourishment.

Hitlers last act was one of immense selfishness. We know Hitler by his fruits.
 
I think if it is a matter of knowing the Christian by their fruits we should be more careful in what we cultivate in ourselves and demonstrate is our faith, for others to witness. A dead German with delusions of ruling the world is long dead. What he believed and what pushed him forward was what he was responsible for in thought and action. Judgment about that exists in this century due to what he did in the last one.

Today is when the individual Christian writes their own history. While dead Nazi's serve as either a terrible warning or a terrible example of where faith and vision can lead.



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I'm not getting your point here.
 
Hitler was a Christian.

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There is absolutely no way Hitler was a Christian. There is absolutely no way to reconcile what he did with the gospel. It is significant that the source you give is an atheist one.

But had he actually turned to Christ in true repentance, yes, he would have been saved.
 
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