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Its a very big deal when God Himself comes to earth. His Glory reeks havoc with the atmosphere. His angels blow trumpets. No one can view His face and live. Gods Spirit can't be seen and doesn't appear to have the form of man. I believe Gods angels, (that which is seen), can stand in the presence of the Lord God, that His Spirit.


Amen!



Question:

Do you believe the Angel of the Lord in the following passage is the Father or the Son?



In Exodus 3:1-6 we see an encounter that Moses had with the Angel of the Lord.

Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. And the Angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. Then Moses said, “I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush does not burn.”
So when the LORD saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.” Then He said, “Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.” Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God. Exodus 3:1-6




JLB
 
Notice also the words IN ME which you highlight, do not compare well with words "IS NOT."
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When speaking of God, they absolutely do. The Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father; the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father. That's two "persons" in the one God.
 
LORD refers to YHWH the LORD God.

Jesus Christ is LORD; YHWH the LORD God.

He Himself said He is I AM. John 8:56-59

As we see from Exodus 3:1-6,14 it was the Angel of the LORD that revealed His name as I AM.


There are many scriptures that teach us Jesus Christ is LORD; YHWH the LORD God.


Here’s a hint:

No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. John 1:18




Can we discuss this further?





JLB
Of course.
I learned in theology that LORD is God Father and Lord is God Son.
I just took it for granted, otherwise I'd have to check a few versions of the bible to make sure.
Do you not agree with this?

Yes. Jesus said I AM.
Which means He is God.
But He is not God Father.

Exodus 3:1-14
1Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and he led the flock to the west side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God.

2The angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed.
3So Moses said, “I must turn aside now and see this marvelous sight, why the bush is not burned up.”
4When the LORD saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.”
5Then He said, “Do not come near here; remove your sandals from your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground.”

6He said also, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” Then Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.
7The LORD said, “I have surely seen the affliction of My people who are in Egypt, and have given heed to their cry because of their taskmasters, for I am aware of their sufferings.
8“So I have come down to deliver them from the power of the Egyptians, and to bring them up from that land to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Amorite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite.
9“Now, behold, the cry of the sons of Israel has come to Me; furthermore, I have seen the oppression with which the Egyptians are oppressing them.



The Mission of Moses

10“Therefore, come now, and I will send you to Pharaoh, so that you may bring My people, the sons of Israel, out of Egypt.”
11But Moses said to God, “Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt?”
12And He said, “Certainly I will be with you, and this shall be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: when you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall worship God at this mountain.”
13Then Moses said to God, “Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you.’ Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?”
14God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”



I still believe the above is referring to God Father.
Jesus said I AM because He is God.

In fact, no one has ever seen God Father, neither was He seen in the burning bush...
Nor was He seen when he walked through the burned carcasses during the Covenant with Abraham,
because Abraham fell into a deep sleep.
Genesis 15:12
 
Nope. Philippians 2:5-8 proclaims that Jesus was in the form of God.
I should have added additional verses, as the context shows that Jesus isn't the Father.

Php 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
Php 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (ESV)

Clearly, two distinct "persons," both being spoken of as God.

1 Corinthians 8:6, James 3:9 (kjv), and Ephesians 4:6 tell us that God is the Father.
They certainly tell us the Father is God, yes, but

1Co 8:6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. (ESV)

Two distinct "persons," with two distinct functions in creation. This is Paul's expansion on the Shema and shows that both the Son and the Father are the one God. It also points to the eternal pre-existence of the Son. Just as "from whom are all things" speaks of the Father's eternal existence prior to creation, so too does "through whom are all things" speaks of the Son's eternal existence prior to creation. Not that it was Paul's intention to make a proof of the Son's eternal pre-existence, but if one wants to be consistent in their understanding of the verse, then there simply is no other way to understand it. The reasoning is sound.

James 3:9 is in dispute as to what the Greek text actually says--"Lord and Father" or "God, even the Father." Not that it matters as this is proof-texting. As is Eph 4:6. You cannot simply post verses that appear to show one thing while ignoring the rest of Scripture. This is what JWs and Mormons do and why they are in so much error.

As it is, you are pitting 1 Cor 8:6 against Eph 4:6. They cannot both teach what you claim they teach.

That is your presupposition.
No, I have shown this to be the case earlier in this thread.

I don't see John 1:1 or any other passage proclaiming that Jesus isn't the Father.
I have also shown several times in this thread that the Word simply cannot be the Father, based on the Greek grammar.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (ESV)

The word "was" is the Greek en, which is a form of eimi (I Am), and denotes a continuous action in the past. That is, when the beginning began (creation), the Word was already in existence; it is absolute existence, eternal preexistence.

Then when we look at "the Word was with God," it is the Greek pros that is translated as "with." But that doesn't convey the full meaning; it isn't merely speaking of being together or near. It expresses “direction towards,” as in relationship and communion, implying intimacy. It is important to note here that in the Greek the article is present, so it reads, "the Word was with [the] God."

When it comes to "the Word was God," the article in the Greek is not present. JW's use this to mean that the word was "a god," but that is false, as that is polytheism. If the article had been present then "Word" and "God" become interchangeable, and they are one and the same, which is the error of Oneness theology. But this is about the logos, who the logos is, not who God is, so John purposely doesn't use the article to avoid equating the two words. What it can only mean then, is that the Word was divine in nature.

There is only one understanding of this passage--the Word existed for eternity past in intimate relationship with another, who is God the Father (at a minimum), and the Word is divine in nature, making him also God.

John then makes it clear in verse 14 that "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." That is, the Word, not the Father, not "[the] God," entered into time--Greek for "become" is egeneto (same as "made" in verse 3)--and took on human flesh. This is all precisely what Paul is speaking of in Phil 2:5-8.

As you say, context is king.

Jhn 14:16, And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:17, Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 14:18, I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


Here, Jesus refers to the Spirit of truth as "I" indicating that they are the same Person.
Not at all. Again, context. "Another" rules this out completely.

Of course, He is also "another" Comforter in that Jesus was there with the disciples, in the flesh; and the Holy Spirit would come and comfort them as a Spirit.
Another is another. If I eat a piece of cake for dessert and am asked if I would like another, I fully expect to get a different piece of cake from the same cake. What I don't expect is to somehow get the exact same piece that I just ate, nor do I expect to get a steak. I expect something that is similar yet different.

We cannot simply ignore plain language, figures of speech, and rules of grammar when we read the Bible.
 
I should have added additional verses, as the context shows that Jesus isn't the Father.

Php 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
Php 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (ESV)

Clearly, two distinct "persons," both being spoken of as God.
That Jesus Christ is Lord precludes that He is the Father; for there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6); even the Father (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, 2 Corinthians 6:17-18).
As it is, you are pitting 1 Cor 8:6 against Eph 4:6.
No.
 
Of course.
I learned in theology that LORD is God Father and Lord is God Son.
I just took it for granted, otherwise I'd have to check a few versions of the bible to make sure.
Do you not agree with this?

No maam, I dont agree with that.

We will circle back to Exodus 3 again.

Let's look at another couple of passages, one from the New and one from the Old.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11

The Old Testament prophets spoke by the Spirit of Christ who was in them saying thus says the Lord.

So lets look at an OT passage that has thus says the Lord, that referred to His suffering.

The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:1,10


So we see that Christ Jesus the Son, spoke through the prophet Zechariah, as the LORD; YHWH the LORD God.

He also foretold of His suffering from being pierced.




JLB
 
We cannot simply ignore plain language, figures of speech, and rules of grammar when we read the Bible.
Indeed, we cannot and should not ignore plain language, figures of speech, and rules of grammar when we read the Bible.

Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:13 ESV

But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 ESV

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 ESV

Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: 2 Peter 1:1 ESV

For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. Colossians 2:9-10 ESV

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” Revelation 22:13 ESV

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
1 John 5:20 ESV
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See Hebrews 1:1-3 for that.
Hebrews 1:1-3
1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,



I'll grant that the above means Jesus.
But when Jesus was in our time and in our space (on earth), He could not have been the one holding up the universe.

It is commonly understood that it is God Father, the creator that brought everything into existence by the Word, is the one holding everything in the universe. I learned that if God stopped thinking about us, we'd all just disappear.

But even allowing that Jesus is the One holding up the universe, it would not work while on earth,
in fact, verse 3 part b states that Jesus went back to sit at the right hand of God.
 
Jesus refers to the Spirit of truth as "I".
This is, again, the problem with proof-texting. Taking one verse at a time never works and is never a proper way to "do theology."

Jesus is not saying he is the Holy Spirit. That has already been precluded by "another Helper."

Joh 14:20 In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.”

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
Joh 14:24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
Joh 14:25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you.
Joh 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. (ESV)

Also, he mentions sending the "Helper" again:

Joh 16:7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.
Joh 16:8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment:
Joh 16:9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;
Joh 16:10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer;
Joh 16:11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
Joh 16:12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
Joh 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
Joh 16:14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Joh 16:15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you. (ESV)

Jesus clearly didn't think he was either the Father or the Holy Spirit, so I'm not sure why anyone else would. The three "persons" of the Trinity are so close, each being truly God, that similar language is used, yet, they have distinct functions in the salvation of man and redemption of creation. For more clarity and understanding, I highly recommend Fastfredy0's previous post, HERE.

I think that the reason why you cannot see this may have something to do with 2 Corinthians 4:3-4.
You were warned.
 
Hebrews 1:1-3
1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,



I'll grant that the above means Jesus.
But when Jesus was in our time and in our space (on earth), He could not have been the one holding up the universe.

It is commonly understood that it is God Father, the creator that brought everything into existence by the Word, is the one holding everything in the universe. I learned that if God stopped thinking about us, we'd all just disappear.

But even allowing that Jesus is the One holding up the universe, it would not work while on earth,
in fact, verse 3 part b states that Jesus went back to sit at the right hand of God.
Don't forget, God is omnipresent.
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Indeed, we cannot and should not ignore plain language, figures of speech, and rules of grammar when we read the Bible.

Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:13 ESV

But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 ESV

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 ESV

Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: 2 Peter 1:1 ESV

For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. Colossians 2:9-10 ESV

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” Revelation 22:13 ESV

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
1 John 5:20 ESV
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Okay, you quoted Scripture. I fully agree with those verses, so what are you trying to show? Quoting the Bible without giving your understanding of what is being said and how it is relevant to the discussion is almost always pointless.
 
No maam, I dont agree with that.

We will circle back to Exodus 3 again.

Let's look at another couple of passages, one from the New and one from the Old.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11

The Old Testament prophets spoke by the Spirit of Christ who was in them saying thus says the Lord.

So lets look at an OT passage that has thus says the Lord, that referred to His suffering.

The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:1,10

LORD is in caps...it's speaking about God Father, who was the creator and lays the foundation of the earth.
Genesis 1:1....

The nations will try to harm Jerusalem but they will only harm themselves. Verse 3

The People of Jerusalem will find strength in their LORD, their God. Verse 5

The weakest amoung them will be as mighty as King David. Verse 8

It continues speaking about God Father till verse 10.

Then God will pour out a spirit, and at this point it goes into a prophesy which could only mean Jesus.

But I still understand The LORD to be a message from God, although it does refer to Jesus as a prophesy.


So we see that Christ Jesus the Son, spoke through the prophet Zechariah, as the LORD; YHWH the LORD God.

He also foretold of His suffering from being pierced.




JLB
Zacharia 12:1 states that it's a message from God.
 
Let me ask you this:
When Jesus was a human on earth....
And persons were praying to God....
Who were they praying to?
Me no understand!

Even though this was directed at Cooper, I want to put in my two cents. People, including Jesus, have always prayed to God. (BTW, you answered your own question.)
 
Okay, you quoted Scripture. I fully agree with those verses, so what are you trying to show? Quoting the Bible without giving your understanding of what is being said and how it is relevant to the discussion is almost always pointless.
You were saying Jesus is not the Father, but we all know God is One.
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You were saying Jesus is not the Father, but we all know God is One.
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There is only one God and the Son and the Father are both God, but Jesus is not the Father. If by saying that "God is One," you mean God is a singular "person," an absolute unity, then, no, the Bible itself never clearly or directly affirms that.
 
James White “The Forgotten Trinity” – expanding on Louis Berkhof’s six points

A longer rendition will help us to understand why we use the specific terms we do in defining the Trinity.


There is in the divine Being but one indivisible essence (simplicity). This is Foundation One: monotheism. Yet, as we can see, it goes beyond the mere statement that there is only one true God numerically speaking. It makes a further statement: the divine Being is "indivisible." That is, you can't chop God up into parts (simplicity). He is "simple," in the sense that He is not made up of different "parts." God's being is either entire, whole, or it is not God's being at all.

We struggle to express ourselves clearly here, for how does one describe the "being" of God? Terms have been used down through the centuries, such as essence. It's the "stuff of God." It is that "which makes God, God." Because He is unique, His being is unique as well. Whatever the "being" of God is, creatures don't have the same thing. Our biggest problem is that we think physically. "God is spirit." He can say through Jeremiah, "'Can a man hide himself in hiding places so I do not see him?' declares the LORD. `Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?' declares the LORD." And Solomon reminds us of this truth when he says of God, "Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You; how much less this house which I have built." God's being is not limited by time and space but is
eternal and without bounds, omnipresent.

In this one divine Being there are three persons or individual subsistences, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is Foundation Two. Yet we note the fact that another term is offered to help define the word "person," that being "subsistences." Why suggest this term? Because we are wont to read into the term "person" all sorts of physical limitations that should not be thought of at all when speaking of the Trinity. What we are talking about are personal distinctions in the divine Being. We are talking about the "I, You, He" found in such passages as Matthew 3, where the Father speaks from heaven, the Son is being baptized, and the Spirit descends as a dove. While trying to avoid the idea of separate individuals, we are speaking of the personal self-distinctions God has revealed to exist within the one, indivisible divine essence. Theologians speak of each of these subsistences as being marked by particular "incommunicable attributes." What we mean is that you can tell the Father from the Son, and the Son from the Spirit, by how they are related to each other, and by what actions they take in working out creation, salvation, etc. We will talk more about this below. For now we emphasize the fact that the Father, Son, and Spirit are distinguished from one another, and yet these distinctions do not lead to a division in the one Being that is God. This leads us to the next point:

The whole undivided essence of God belongs equally to each of the three persons. There are not three different essences, nor is the one essence divided equally into thirds. Each divine person is in full possession of the entirety of the divine nature. But the statement also goes beyond this to assert Foundation One again, for it reemphasizes the unity of the divine nature with its insistence that it is "undivided."

Right here we stumble, for in our experience ‘being’ can only be shared fully by one person. Biblically speaking, there are three kinds of beings who are personal: God, men, and angels. I have being: I exist. Yet I am personal. My being is limited and finite. It is limited to one place geographically speaking, and one time temporally speaking. Such is the essence of being a creature. My being is shared by only one person: me. My being, since it is limited, cannot be distributed among two, three, or any more persons. One being, one person: that's what it is to be a human.

What we are saying about God is that His being is not limited and finite like a creature's. His Being is
infinite and unlimited, and hence can, in a way completely beyond our comprehension, be shared fully by three persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The divine Being is one; the divine persons are three. While the Father is not the Son, nor is the Son the Spirit, each is fully and completely God by full and complete participation in the divine Being. Unless we recognize the difference between the terms being and person, we will never have an accurate or workable understanding of the Trinity.'' See definition of Person

The subsistence and operation of the three persons in the divine Being is marked by a certain definite order. To get a firm grasp on this concept, we need to define two terms that are often used in this discussion. The first is ontological. Ontology is the study of being. When we speak of the "ontological Trinity," we speak of the Trinity as it exists in and of itself. In contrast with this is the term economical. In this case, when we speak of the economical Trinity, we speak of the operations and workings of the Trinity, what the three persons do in creation and salvation. Obviously, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit have taken different roles in creation and in redemption. Hence, we find different relationships between them in the economical Trinity as we see them working out redemption and bringing about salvation. We must be very careful to distinguish between relationships as we observe them outwardly and the eternal relationship that exists between the persons inside the triune nature of God, that is, the ontological Trinity.

The "order" that is observed biblically is the Father first, the Son second, and the Spirit third. The order is one of relationship.

When we speak of the relationship shared by the Father, Son, and Spirit, we use the terms “begotten” and “procession”. Again I sound the warning, "Define these terms within the context in which they are being used." That is, don't think of "begotten" in human terms, but divine; don't think of "procession" in a finite, creaturely sense, but in an eternal, unlimited, timeless sense. We must do so, for we are talking about the
infinite, timeless being of God.

The Son is eternally
begotten (eternally generated) by the Father. The Father is begotten by no one. It had no beginning, it will have no ending. It has always been. C. S. Lewis likened it to a book that is lying on top of another. We say the top book owes its position to the bottom one. It wouldn't be where it is without the one on the bottom. Now, if you can, imagine this relationship as always having been. There never was a time when the top book was not where it was, never a time when the bottom book was alone. This is what we mean when we speak of the Father begetting the Son. The relationship of the first person of the Trinity to the second person is that of begetting.

The relationship of the Holy Spirit to the Father and the Son is described by the term procession. He is said to "proceed" from the Father and the Son on the basis of such passages as
John 15:26 and John 16:7.

There are certain personal attributes by which the three persons are distinguished. This refers back to the preceding point. Looking internally at the Trinity, these actions would be "generation" for the Father, "filiation" for the Son, and "procession" for the Holy Spirit. Because of the relationship the persons bear to one another, we cannot confuse them. Only the Father generates; only the Son bears the relation of Son to the Father (filiation); and only the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. (How procession differs from generation, it is impossible to explain. "That there is a difference between generation and procession, we have taught, but what is the manner of the difference, we do not at all pretend to teach." William G.T. Shedd.)

The church confesses the Trinity to be a mystery beyond the comprehension of man. This is not a statement that the doctrine is inherently contradictory or irrational. It is not an excuse to ignore biblical passages or believe things not taught in Scripture. It is an admission that Deuteronomy 29:29 is true: there are certain secret things that belong only to the Lord.
 
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