The Jehovah’s Witnesses Teach Jesus is Mighty God

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Incorrect. I've already addressed that, HERE.

because you said something does not mean you were right

 

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because you said something does not mean you were right

And if you were to say I am not right doesn't mean I'm wrong. You need to learn to actually engage critically with what others post and give evidence for why you believe something is incorrect. I can guarantee you that the NWT is wrong on John 1:1, as it is elsewhere.

 

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And if you were to say I am not right doesn't mean I'm wrong. You need to learn to actually engage critically with what others post and give evidence for why you believe something is incorrect. I can guarantee you that the NWT is wrong on John 1:1, as it is elsewhere.

when the world says its one way of which Satan is known to have influence, then its time to wonder, what way would satan want things to go . and sorry but the trinity is a big one for misleading the peoples of the earth . if the bible came right out and said it that would be a different thing . but it does not do that which means its guessed at . please consider 1 Corinthians 15:24
New King James Version
''Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.''
why would he do that unless his God is greater than himself?
Luke 4:8
King James Bible
''And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.''
then we have to wonder why would Jesus direct all worship to THE God but secretly keeping some of it for himself . that spells description. of which is not even possible. sooo then next thing is to realize is that there is a problem with the understanding of who really is Jesus is . its been stated many ,many times ,Jesus is the SON of God, nothing more nothing less.

 

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when the world says its one way of which Satan is known to have influence, then its time to wonder, what way would satan want things to go . and sorry but the trinity is a big one for misleading the peoples of the earth . if the bible came right out and said it that would be a different thing . but it does not do that which means its guessed at . please consider 1 Corinthians 15:24
New King James Version
''Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.''
why would he do that unless his God is greater than himself?
Luke 4:8
King James Bible
''And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.''
then we have to wonder why would Jesus direct all worship to THE God but secretly keeping some of it for himself . that spells description. of which is not even possible. sooo then next thing is to realize is that there is a problem with the understanding of who really is Jesus is . its been stated many ,many times ,Jesus is the SON of God, nothing more nothing less.

Proof-texting will almost always lead to error, as it does here. There is a vast amount that must be taken into account, not just a couple of verses. As I have pointed out time and again, John 1:1-3, 14, 5:18, 8:58, 10:33, 20:28, 1 Cor. 8:6, Phil. 2:5-8, Col. 1:15-17, and Heb. 1:2-3, 10-12 are key.

 

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Proof-texting will almost always lead to error, as it does here. There is a vast amount that must be taken into account, not just a couple of verses. As I have pointed out time and again, John 1:1-3, 14, 5:18, 8:58, 10:33, 20:28, 1 Cor. 8:6, Phil. 2:5-8, Col. 1:15-17, and Heb. 1:2-3, 10-12 are key.

ah but what happens when the same set of scriptures are used to prove the opposite to the point you are trying to make . John 1:1-3 John 1:1-3 introduces the concept of the Word (Logos) and its relationship to God and creation. It establishes that the Word was with God from the beginning of creation and that through the Word, all things were made.
john 5:18'' For this reason the Jews tried all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but he also called God his own father, making himself equal to God.''
it's not that he was/is equal .
it was in their ''perception '', even ignorance of who he proved to be .

 

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ah but what happens when the same set of scriptures are used to prove the opposite to the point you are trying to make . John 1:1-3 John 1:1-3 introduces the concept of the Word (Logos) and its relationship to God and creation. It establishes that the Word was with God from the beginning of creation and that through the Word, all things were made.

No, it establishes that before the beginning began, the Word was already in existence. That is timeless existence; that is why John can confidently say, “without him was not any thing made that was made” (John 1:3b, ESV). If the Word had been made, then that claim is false.

john 5:18'' For this reason the Jews tried all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but he also called God his own father, making himself equal to God.''
it's not that he was/is equal .
it was in their ''perception '', even ignorance of who he proved to be .

It wasn’t their perception, it is John’s claim. John is the one who is saying that Jesus’s claim to be the Son of the Father was to make himself equal with God. And that is perfectly consistent with all that he has stated in 1:1-18, and is consistent through to the end of his gospel.

 

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please don't put the cart before the horse . it obvious in the reading that the son was something God did cause into being by his own self , completely by him self. after that came the things God wanted done . that's where the son of God steps in to make the things happen the father wanted done .
its the chicken or the egg thing ,ya cant get an egg till you have a chicken . God could not start creating until he had a work force .which by the way is the WORD/Jesus . Shalom