The Church Throughout Revelations

for_his_glory

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The Church, which represents the bride of Christ, will face much tribulation before we enter into the kingdom of God. There are many false teachings that teach we are taken out of here before some seven year Great Tribulation, but there is no scripture defining a seven year Great Tribulation. Some also teach that after Rev Chapter 4 the Church is no longer here on earth. If this were the case then why did Jesus say that those who endure until the end will be saved. The end of what, the end of days or as scripture calls it that great and terrible day of the Lord.

By studying all the scriptures below in Revelations I come to the conclusion we will face much tribulation, but not to fear what must come, but stand strong in the faith of Christ Jesus so we can endure until the coming of the Lord and be His witnesses as a faithful servant.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 3:5; 19:8 Jesus is showing us to look for the signs of his coming

Rev 5:13; 6:16,17 On earth and under the earth are those who are still here until the end of days

Rev 6:9-11 Note where John says fellow servants and brethren that should be killed as they were and we are in the midst of the seven seals right now heading towards the seven trumpets

Rev 7:13-17 Which came out of great tribulation; fulfillment of the gentiles

Rev 8:13 Three woes are war, earthquakes, and meteors

Rev 13:11-18 Here John is showing us about Papal Rome (not Catholics) ruling the world again as a one world government. 666 represents action of the hands and thoughts of the mind

Rev 14:14-20 The harvest of Gods Children

Rev 16:11,15 And they repented not. We can only repent through Gods Spirit and if that Spirit dwells in the hearts of the believers then who would be left for anyone to repent if they wanted to

if we were already gone

Rev 18:23, 24 We have now come out of great tribulation of Papal Rome’s rule (not Catholics). This is Gods rapture of his bride or as scripture calls it being caught up to meet Jesus in the air

Rev 19:7,8 We have made ourselves ready by enduring great tribulations, even to death; we had to go through before the end of days

Rev 20:4-6 These verses show that we went through much annihilation and endured until Jesus came back in the clouds for us

Rev 20:12-15 The Great White Throne judgment and Jesus judgment for the works we did or did not do for him here on earth
 
Our preacher began a series on Revelation today. He told us not to try to find the book of Revelations in the Bible. Seems it's not there. :sorry2
 
say what!!! :eekdid you tell him to :readbible from beginning to end. It has a fantastic ending for us, but not so good for others :shame
 
say what!!! :eekdid you tell him to :readbible from beginning to end. It has a fantastic ending for us, but not so good for others :shame
Seriously, he really said that (or something very close to it) His sermon will be online somewhere around Tuesday. I'll post the address for you then, if you like.
 
As long as it isn't a video............stupid slow dial-up, but if it is written out I would like to take a read.
 
revalation as the revalation of our Lord jesus christ
 
Is not all revelation by that of Christ in whom his Holy Spirit reveals the deeper things of His word to us.
 
Hi dear Sister for_his_glory, just some thoughts.

for_his_glory - The Church, which represents the bride of Christ.
Eugene - All the church are the bride? Scripture? I read of some that become joint-heirs Rom 8:17 & 2 Tim 2:12, will be kings and priests according to Rev 5:10, and others that come out of tribulation are servants Rev 7:15.

for_his_glory - Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Eugene – Since you seem to be establishing time lines, does this mean all that die before the end are not saved? Could this in fact actually be talking of physical deliverance into the millennial kingdom?

for_his_glory - Rev 18:23, 24 We have now come out of great tribulation of Papal Rome’s rule (not Catholics). This is Gods rapture of his bride or as scripture calls it being caught up to meet Jesus in the air.
Eugene – Are you saying that those with Jesus in Rev 4:4 & Rev 4:6 have to wait until Rev 18 to be caught up?

for_his_glory - Rev 20:12-15 The Great White Throne judgment and Jesus judgment for the works we did or did not do for him here on earth.
Eugene - John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life (Conditional to the end?), and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
 
As long as it isn't a video............stupid slow dial-up, but if it is written out I would like to take a read.
It's just audio. Should be no problem.
 
and if one is saved one is IN the kingdom of god. if has to be told to enter in the kingdom then he isn't saved. its about people, not the earth or the rest of creation which is in the process of being redeemed. something that the church seems to fail to teach much about.
 
Question: "What do the seven churches in Revelation stand for?"

Answer:
The seven churches described inRevelation 2-3are seven literal churches at the time that John the apostle was writing Revelation. Though they were literal churches in that time, there is also spiritual significance for churches and believers today. The first purpose of the letters was to communicate with the literal churches and meet their needs at that time. The second purpose is to reveal seven different types of individuals/churches throughout history and instruct them in God's truth.

A possible third purpose is to use the seven churches to foreshadow seven different periods in the history of the Church. The problem with this view is that each of the seven churches describes issues that could fit the Church in any time in its history. So, although there may be some truth to the seven churches representing seven eras, there is far too much speculation in this regard. Our focus should be on what message God is giving us through the seven churches. The seven churches are

(1)Ephesus(Revelation 2:1-7) - the church that had forsaken its first love (2:4).

(2)Smyrna(Revelation 2:8-11) - the church that would suffer persecution (2:10).

(3)Pergamum(Revelation 2:12-17) - the church that needed to repent (2:16).

(4)Thyatira(Revelation 2:18-29) - the church that had a false prophetess (2:20).

(5)Sardis(Revelation 3:1-6) - the church that had fallen asleep (3:2).

(6)Philadelphia(Revelation 3:7-13) - the church that had endured patiently (3:10).

(7)Laodicea(Revelation 3:14-22) - the church with the lukewarm faith (3:16).

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-churches-Revelation.html#ixzz3Fy2tLvR6
 
I'd be interested in listening as well if you could post the link that would be great.
I will. This was just the intro today, so it really doesn't start like wildfire.... just laying track for the train to travel upon.
 
I sure like stuff in print...
Yeah, but Chris doesn't read his sermons. That's why it is cool to attend both services, and hear the different little details he may throw in.... things that are mentioned in one, but not in the other.

He hardly ever even looks at his notes at all.
 
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ..

G602 revelation
ἀποκάλυψις
apokalupsis
ap-ok-al'-oop-sis
From G601; disclosure: - appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation.
G601
ἀποκαλύπτω
apokaluptō
ap-ok-al-oop'-to
From G575 and G2572; to take off the cover, that is, disclose: - reveal.

The book is the revealing of Jesus Christ...
 
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ..

G602 revelation
ἀποκάλυψις
apokalupsis
ap-ok-al'-oop-sis
From G601; disclosure: - appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation.
G601
ἀποκαλύπτω
apokaluptō
ap-ok-al-oop'-to
From G575 and G2572; to take off the cover, that is, disclose: - reveal.

The book is the revealing of Jesus Christ...
Therein, you have uncovered the main theme of the book..... which 95% of us totally miss. We think it is revealing some secrets about the future times.
 
Therein, you have uncovered the main theme of the book..... which 95% of us totally miss. We think it is revealing some secrets about the future times.
I never miss the points in the bible.:biggrin2:bath
 
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