So they are not justified, and don't want to obey God, as I wrote earlier.
Of course. It goes without saying.
Wait a minute !
You are saying the repentant have not repented.
Ergo, they are not justified by God.
That also shows that their belief was false.
I am saying no such thing. You are using circular reasoning by presuming that anyone who sins is not justified, reading that into the text, and then using it to conclude the same. But, that is not at all what John says. No writer in the NT says that. What they do clearly say, mostly implicitly but also explicitly, is that true believers, those who have repented, turned to Christ, and are justified, continue to struggle with sin until they are glorified.
For example:
Jas 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
Jas 3:2
For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.
Jas 3:3 If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we guide their whole bodies as well.
Jas 3:4 Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs.
Jas 3:5 So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire!
Jas 3:6 And
the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell.
Jas 3:7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind,
Jas 3:8 but
no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
Jas 3:9
With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God.
Jas 3:10
From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. (ESV)
Even James says that "we all stumble in many ways." "Stumble" is the Greek word
ptaio, which means "to
trip, that is, (figuratively) to
err,
sin,
fail (of salvation): - fall, offend, stumble" (Strong's). He then goes on to define what he means by those believers who bless God and curse others. But, his whole point is that the tongue and the injury it can do is the reason why few should seek to "become teachers."
These sorts of warnings are all throughout the NT and are pointless if believers don't sin.
You have assigned the label of falsely repentant, unjustified, and unbeliever, to John.
Not at all. John clearly includes himself:
1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which
we have heard, which
we have seen with
our eyes, which
we looked upon and have touched with
our hands, concerning the word of life—
1Jn 1:2 the life was made manifest, and
we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to
us—
1Jn 1:3 that which
we have seen and heard
we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with
us; and indeed
our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1Jn 1:4 And
we are writing these things so that
our joy may be complete.
1Jn 1:5 This is the message
we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6 If
we say we have fellowship with him while
we walk in darkness,
we lie and do not practice the truth.
1Jn 1:7 But if
we walk in the light, as he is in the light,
we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses
us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If
we say
we have no sin,
we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
1Jn 1:9 If
we confess
our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins and to cleanse
us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If
we say
we have not sinned,
we make him a liar, and his word is not in
us. (ESV)
As I have pointed out before, "we confess" is
homologōmen, which is a verb in the form of present, subjunctive, active and is a first person plural. So, the first person plural is obvious--it's "we." But, the present, subjunctive, active indicates a command or wish that is to be an ongoing or habitual action to be performed by the "we." Also, "sins" is plural, which makes sense given that John tells all believers to continually confess.
This can all be verified by doing some study on what John actually wrote, instead of simply relying on a given translation, although some translations bring this out.
Start by looking at 1 John 1 here:
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_john/1.htm
And then look at Greek sources to find out what the mood, tense, voice, etc., all mean.
If you deny the above, your only option is to believe that John is telling unbelievers to continually confess their sins, which doesn't make sense since John says that God "is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." If God forgives just one time and then unbelievers are justified, then John is wrong that God will forgive and cleanse them, because if they must continually confess, they would never be justified. Your position makes no sense of what John actually wrote.
Gradual sanctification is a doctrine of the devil.
Sanctification is stated to be both something that happened at a point in time
and an ongoing process. Sinless perfection is a doctrine of the devil that ignores much of the NT. Sinless perfection will only happen at glorification.
Those people never quit sinning.
They never had the faith to be a true believer in Christ.
According to John, those who aren’t true believers are those “believers” who say they are without sin. Such are self-deceived and without the truth; they make God a liar and do not have his word in them. Why?
Because it is to deny the reality of their own sin; it is to sin but say that it isn’t sin. It is to say that God is wrong for calling their actions sinful.
BTW, perfect obedience is commanded by God, (1 Peter 1:15-16), and by Jesus Christ. (Matt 5:48)
Paul says..."Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame." (1 Cor 15:34)
Peter says..."Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;" (1 Peter 4:1)
Context...
John says...“We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.” (1 John 5:18)
The sinners you cite are unrepentant, don't know God, and have not been begotten of God.
Again, context is not your friend; neither the immediate context, the greater context of 1 John, nor the context of Scripture. Case in point: 1 John 5:16
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that.