A Scenario

[Deborah13]

Yeah, I run into that all the time. It must be that pride thing you mentioned.
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Gary you're a trip.

 

[Kathi]

I know there are at least some members here who believed in pre-trib rapture and changed their minds.
Usually people who get carried away and overly emotional get that way about all different kinds of things, not just the end times beliefs. Unfortunately the Church is not perfect so there are all kinds of people who God isn't finished with yet.



Because so many Christians believe we are in the final years before Jesus returns?

I do not plan on changing my mind.

 

[Blain]

I dont mind different stand points on the rapture I just hate how it seperates the body of christ cause strife and makes ppl rude to another. im not saying that happens here as ppl have been handling it well so far but I have seen how chaotic it gets and its very saddening

 

[Kathi]

I dont mind different stand points on the rapture I just hate how it seperates the body of christ cause strife and makes ppl rude to another. im not saying that happens here as ppl have been handling it well so far but I have seen how chaotic it gets and its very saddening

Yes,it is like the pre-trib person again the rest of the board.I do not think God has intended for Christians to treat other Christians in that way :neutral

 

[Gary]

Gary you're a trip.

Thanks.

 

[Deborah13]

Yes,it is like the pre-trib person again the rest of the board.I do not think God has intended for Christians to treat other Christians in that way :neutral

I think there are more pre-tribs on this board than any other belief. They just don't all post in these threads.

 

[Blain]

All I know is that if the rapture happens and I get to go I better be able to take my kitty cats!!

 

[Kathi]

I think there are more pre-tribs on this board than any other belief. They just don't all post in these threads.

I sure have not seen them except for Blain.

 

[Kathi]

All I know is that if the rapture happens and I get to go I better be able to take my kitty cats!!

OH BOY!! that is a discussion that we don't want to bring up on this board :neutral

 

[Blain]

OH BOY!! that is a discussion that we don't want to bring up on this board :neutral

Oh yes dont mess with me and my kittys

 

[Gary]

All I know is that if the rapture happens and I get to go I better be able to take my kitty cats!!

 

[Eugene]

the torah is it central Christians or is it not? besides oral recitation and its accuracy are gone. we cranman still do this and as all jews. we reasearched our lineage it goes back to the oddessa , Russia and my surname could mean crimea. the reason I mention the song of moses as that is recited to remind jews of what they were redeemed from and the promise of the YHWH to them.i also believe that this has past. james is written to the twelve tribes of isreal.

Brother Jason, if I’m understanding your question correctly, the Torah to the church is presented as examples (1 Cor 10:11). A Christian is a believer in Christ regardless of Jewish heritage and learning. The 144,000 discussed were sealed in Revelation Chapter Seven by the Holy Spirit; will the all Israel experience this? The 144,000 as well as the other elect of the church are one in the body of Christ, but all do not have the same assembling with Him in glory if that makes sense to you.

What happens to all Israel saved that enter the millennium, or endured unto the end as it were? Do they not become witnesses to the nations? I don’t really know but I read of a nation born at once in Isa 66:8.

Here is an excerpt from the study of Revelation I transcribed from CD’s given by my friend Gene Hawkins. I also don’t know if this addresses your question.

Well, he that "Keepeth my works unto the end," those that go out into the tribulation period are going to be hard pressed to do that. You know, they are going to be tempted to take the mark of the beast, and yet they absolutely cannot and will not even at the expense of their own life. That is overcoming, and so He says "He that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations." Now I do believe that in light of these words that there are some who are going to go all the way through the tribulation period and what I mean by that is this: we know that the Church is the heavenly body, so this really extends beyond the Church Age. The one hundred and forty-four thousand are the last rank of the Church to go up to heaven, but there is still the Church, or God's kingdom as we would say and I prefer to call as God's kingdom on the earth because there will still be Gentile nations that Israel is going to be ministering to during the millennial period. Where do they come from? Well I believe they have come out of many of these nations that they are known by their Catholicism, and yet they have known Christ as Savior. They have come all the way through the tribulation period and will in a measure reign over these nations who will be subordinate to the one hundred and forty-four thousand but they will in some degree have a place of reigning and ruling with Christ. That Catholic system is going to be judged in Revelation Chapters Seventeen and Eighteen, but again that's just the system and not the people involved with her. They're exhorted to come out of her, and so thus there is a certain reward for those who go on through that complete tribulation period.

 

[Eugene]

I know there are at least some members here who believed in pre-trib rapture and changed their minds. Usually people who get carried away and overly emotional get that way about all different kinds of things, not just the end times beliefs. Unfortunately the Church is not perfect so there are all kinds of people who God isn't finished with yet.

I am not emotional just because I believe in pre-trib.

 

[Eugene]

All I know is that if the rapture happens and I get to go I better be able to take my kitty cats!!

Your cats may not make it.

 

[John S]

All I know is that if the rapture happens and I get to go I better be able to take my kitty cats!!

A woman is holding her infant. Just then, she vanishes.
Does the infant go with her? If it does, then at what age are children responsible for their own beliefs - 6, 8, 10, 15, 18?

Comment deleted. Pets aren't going to be Raptured.
Pets don't go to Heaven or Hell. Pets just die.

 

[Eugene]

Pets aren't going to be Raptured.
Pets don't go to Heaven or Hell. Pets just die.

Wouldn't this be covered by the scripture of Ecc 3:21? Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

 

[Lloyd]

Pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, whatever-trib doesn't matter. What matters is following Christ each and every day of our lives.

It's not about how faithful a servant we have been, it's about the glory of God. I trust God that whatever trib and whatever rapture and whatever
else those passages mean, he is faithful and any reward we may recieve will be the exact justice we deserve. May we take our eyes off ourselves
and focus on Christ, for all glory is Gods and his alone. I am not fearful of getting any timings wrong or events misconstrued because God is faithful
and if I say I live for him, then I trust that his spirit that lives in me will lead me to the exact justice I deserve.

All praise and glory to God. The only God. Creator of Heaven and Earth. How amazing and faithful he is. Amen.

 

[Blain]

anyways the rapture is an important even jesus said to always be watching for we know not the day nor hour-to me that sounds very much like it could happen any day at any second. if the mid trib or post trib was correct why are we to always be watching and waiting?

 

[Eugene]

anyways the rapture is an important even jesus said to always be watching for we know not the day nor hour-to me that sounds very much like it could happen any day at any second. if the mid trib or post trib was correct why are we to always be watching and waiting?

Hi Brother Blain, I am pre-trib for some of the church that were ready, but have you considered where and when the tribulation saints get to heaven?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

 

[Blain]

Hi Brother Blain, I am pre-trib for some of the church that were ready, but have you considered where and when the tribulation saints get to heaven?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Yes I have, these ppl that came out of the tribulation are those who got left behind but Later accepted christ and refused to take the mark.