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Angels Do Not Have Sex
- Thread starter Lewis
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His_nee (Jeff)
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oh! ---- NOT charlie's angels! WHEW! .......... 
Angels that sinned.
There sin was having relations with the daughters of men.
Unless you can show another sin that angels committed during the time of Noah, then you really have no argument that works.
Peters letter sinches it for sons of God being human.
There is just way to much unanswered scripture that I have presented that you need to honestly address Brother.
God bless you.
JLB.
Amen
No sir.
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agua.
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:biggrin
Could be Kathi. Also it could be that this was common knowledge in Peter's/Jude's day and we mostly disregard it for one reason or another. Muddyng the water of what really happened is a great way to hide it as with most despicable things.
Yes for sure it is ! You will never be saved from hearing JLB and I present it so save yourself and believe. :D
Cyberseeker
Member
My wife is an angel and we have 3 kids.
:halo
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chessman
Member
In Gen 6, these "Sons of God" are said to have taken "wives". Think about the definition of a wife.
Ask yourself, would God refer to a woman having sex with an angel (who, BTW is only appearing as a man) as a marriage to a "wife"? I say no, as that contradicts His definition of a wife given just a few chapters previously.
And I certainly don't think an angel appearing as a man produces semen carrying actual DNA with human X and Y chromosomes. It's one thing to appear as a man in form, on a sanctioned mission from God, yet quite another to be a real DNA carrier. Or is that DNA just appearing to be real DNA as well? At some point, molecules must be real molecules, not manifestations of them.
“This at last is bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called Woman,
because she was staken out of Man.”
This idea of angels and humans having sex all starts with a false premise that "sons of God" always mens angels. The fact is, sons of God is a term that does not always refer to angels. Therefore, the argument fails.
God (thru Paul) defines sons of God as He sees fit.
Adam being an example of God calling a human a son of God way earlier than Paul.
Plus, the term appears not to be referring to angels at all in Gen 6, if you really think about it. Notice how everyone arguing that Gen 6 is talking about angels must first state a premise (sons of God always = angels) or you don't get angels from the text at all. The problem is, the premise is false to start with.
Angels don't have flesh (or fathers and mothers, BTW) to unite to wives. As has been admitted, they appear/manifest as men, sure.
But men do have flesh including DNA. Manifestations don't have DNA that produce offspring! Angels don't make babies. Small ones or tall ones.
God defines a wife as a female who becomes "one flesh" with a male, not as a woman becoming one flesh with a spiritual "manifestation" of flesh.
The sin here in Gen 6 is about a Rom 8:14 person sinning by taking any ole attractive wife He chooses, not angel DNA come to Earth.
Genesis 6:1-2 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
Ask yourself, would God refer to a woman having sex with an angel (who, BTW is only appearing as a man) as a marriage to a "wife"? I say no, as that contradicts His definition of a wife given just a few chapters previously.
And I certainly don't think an angel appearing as a man produces semen carrying actual DNA with human X and Y chromosomes. It's one thing to appear as a man in form, on a sanctioned mission from God, yet quite another to be a real DNA carrier. Or is that DNA just appearing to be real DNA as well? At some point, molecules must be real molecules, not manifestations of them.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
And what is this verse there for?
“This at last is bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called Woman,
because she was staken out of Man.”
This idea of angels and humans having sex all starts with a false premise that "sons of God" always mens angels. The fact is, sons of God is a term that does not always refer to angels. Therefore, the argument fails.
God (thru Paul) defines sons of God as He sees fit.
Romans 8:14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
Adam being an example of God calling a human a son of God way earlier than Paul.
Plus, the term appears not to be referring to angels at all in Gen 6, if you really think about it. Notice how everyone arguing that Gen 6 is talking about angels must first state a premise (sons of God always = angels) or you don't get angels from the text at all. The problem is, the premise is false to start with.
Angels don't have flesh (or fathers and mothers, BTW) to unite to wives. As has been admitted, they appear/manifest as men, sure.
But men do have flesh including DNA. Manifestations don't have DNA that produce offspring! Angels don't make babies. Small ones or tall ones.
God defines a wife as a female who becomes "one flesh" with a male, not as a woman becoming one flesh with a spiritual "manifestation" of flesh.
The sin here in Gen 6 is about a Rom 8:14 person sinning by taking any ole attractive wife He chooses, not angel DNA come to Earth.
chessman
Member
Yes, I know. Some people think that means she was a four time divorced (or widowed) woman. I don't. I think Jesus revealed to her that He knew the secrets of her sex life.
Otherwise, why would she have thought He knew secrets nobody else in her town knew?
John 4:19 The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. ...
John 4:29 “Come, see a man who told me all that I ever did. Can this be the Christ?”
If she had been through public marriages/divorces/widowed, those are not secrets. And why would Jesus say the man she was apparently living with was not truly her husband even though he appeared to be her husband?
John 4:17-18 The woman answered him, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, “You are right in saying, ‘I have no husband’; for you have had five husbands, and the one you now have is not your husband. What you have said is true.”
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His_nee (Jeff)
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I knew a lady in washington state, north of oak harbor, who had about 45 goats. did you get the kids from her ?
boy, definitions in egnlish ... ... ... ...
just in case someone doesn't know:: kids=baby goats
in the farmers world