Ask any questions about The Great Tribulation in this thread and you will recieve true information about it from me.

[for_his_glory]

Luciferianism is a not a real religion.

Never said it was, but there are Satanic Churches where they worship Satan. How do you know you are not being deceived in believing the lies of Satan because you are all over the place in what you say.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

No, I only worship God and I do not follow anyone who says they have all truths as that would make them a liar and pride goes before a fall. There is no one person that holds all truths. You need to climb down from your ivory tower before you fall off of it.

I know the truth and you can easily research it. Read the Bible and if you find it to be accurate, then you can either deny it or accept it. Otherwise, prove my message wrong.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Never said it was, but there are Satanic Churches where they worship Satan. How do you know you are not being deceived in believing the lies of Satan because you are all over the place in what you say.

Well the Church of Satan is not the real religion of Satan either. I regretfully inform you.

 

[Consecrated Life]

The Muslims have no power, and also the Arabs who are most Muslims, are the real Jews. Their royalty and statesmen are in league with the Empire that created them. They instigate terrorism from these peoples at will and they will make peace with the Catholic Church and together they will attack the "Jews" that are not real Jews. When that happens, their evil will be known to the world and the Messiah who defeats these Muslims and their Catholic allies will be accepted by the world.

Clearly the scripture indicates the threat of violence from both principles over the Temple Mount will be just as real, even more so when this deceiver consolidates power.
The establishment of "Peace" being Satan's method as stated in scripture would only be relevant in the absence of peace after all.
The scriptures clearly state that His rise to world power and his reconfiguring the Temple Mount will be through peace and safety, not by " attacks " & " defeats " .
The killing only begins after his kingdom has been secured through peace.

" But he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries" ( Daniel 11:21 )

So my question stands as to how he will manage to bring these two sides with such longstanding hate towards the other together and get the muslims to agree to a reconstruction of the Temple Mount, which you have to believe would involve tearing down the Dome of the Rock ?
Something absolutely unthinkable to any Muslim today.
I have my own theory based in the claims of "peace" being thew tool used.

 

[JLB]

I know the truth and you can easily research it.

The Truth is Jesus Christ.

All the words that proceed out of His mouth are the Truth.

"Researching" things online may or may not be truth.


Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 8:31-32


The way to truth is continuing and remaining in His word, His message, His Doctrine.

Then you will know the truth, whereby you will be free from deception.


The more of His truth you know, the more you will be free.


JLB

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Well

The Truth is Jesus Christ.

All the words that proceed out of His mouth are the Truth.

"Researching" things online may or may not be truth.


Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 8:31-32


The way to truth is continuing and remaining in His word, His message, His Doctrine.

Then you will know the truth, whereby you will be free from deception.


The more of His truth you know, the more you will be free.


JLB

Which is why you should listen to what is said in the books of his word.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Clearly the scripture indicates the threat of violence from both principles over the Temple Mount will be just as real, even more so when this deceiver consolidates power.
The establishment of "Peace" being Satan's method as stated in scripture would only be relevant in the absence of peace after all.
The scriptures clearly state that His rise to world power and his reconfiguring the Temple Mount will be through peace and safety, not by " attacks " & " defeats " .
The killing only begins after his kingdom has been secured through peace.

" But he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries" ( Daniel 11:21 )

So my question stands as to how he will manage to bring these two sides with such longstanding hate towards the other together and get the muslims to agree to a reconstruction of the Temple Mount, which you have to believe would involve tearing down the Dome of the Rock ?
Something absolutely unthinkable to any Muslim today.
I have my own theory based in the claims of "peace" being thew tool used.

That is a prophecy of Antiochus IV Epiphanies and it in fact gives a history of the Beast in Israel.
Daniel does in fact prophecy of the Tribulation and the end of days, but that begins in chapter 12. Why don't you read it?

Unfortunately when the Roman Catholic Church and Islam unite as they have already begun, they will be appointed to go against the Synagogue of Satan in Israel and that will lead to war with a clear Messiah.

 

[JLB]

Well

Which is why you should listen to what is said in the books of his word.

Im still waiting to see you refer to scripture in your posts.


Please make your point and use scripture, so we can evaluate your doctrine, thereby testing it to see if it is from God.




JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

Well

Which is why you should listen to what is said in the books of his word.

Exactly, we need to hear what the Holy Spirit is teaching us, not man/woman.

1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

JLB, you haven't read the scriptures and you haven't understood them since I've shown how my message is what it says in the books that I've referenced. You have yet to show an explanation that better describes what the words mean.

 

[Consecrated Life]

That is a prophecy of Antiochus IV Epiphanies and it in fact gives a history of the Beast in Israel.
Daniel does in fact prophecy of the Tribulation and the end of days, but that begins in chapter 12. Why don't you read it?

I did read it .
And I understand prior to reading it that Antiochus IV Epiphanies neither came " peaceably " or issuing " flatteries " to anyone, especially the Jews of Jerusalem
Daniel does not speak of Antiochus IV Epiphanies here:

" But he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries" ( Daniel 11:21 )

My question stands ?

 

[for_his_glory]

JLB, you haven't read the scriptures and you haven't understood them since I've shown how my message is what it says in the books that I've referenced. You have yet to show an explanation that better describes what the words mean.

Please do not tell others they have not read the scriptures nor understand them as that is a violation of the ToS 1.1 which I will not give you an infraction this time since you are new, but next time post like these will be deleted and a warning given to you.

JLB and all of us for that matter have given you explanations on our understanding of the scriptures in all the threads you are involved in, but since you do not agree with them since you deem yourself knowing all truths does not make you right and we wrong. Please start respecting the views of others as no one holds all truths.

 

[n2thelight]

I know everything about the Tribulation and anyone can gain as much knowledge as they want about it by asking in this thread. Is anyone interested in the truth or will few be chosen from the many who are called?

Who may I ask are you ?

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Who may I ask are you ?

I'm a brother in Christ.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

I did read it .
And I understand prior to reading it that Antiochus IV Epiphanies neither came " peaceably " or issuing " flatteries " to anyone, especially the Jews of Jerusalem
Daniel does not speak of Antiochus IV Epiphanies here:

" But he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries" ( Daniel 11:21 )

My question stands ?

Antiochus IV Epiphanies came to power within his own kingdom through flatteries. The prophecy says nothing about him interacting with any opposing nation peacefully, rather he crushes them in battle.

 

[Consecrated Life]

Antiochus IV Epiphanies came to power within his own kingdom through flatteries. The prophecy says nothing about him interacting with any opposing nation peacefully, rather he crushes them in battle.

This description of Daniel is a clearly speaking of future events.
As of 2022 Michael has not been called into service against Antiochus IV Epiphanies , or any other person for that matter.
My question still stands, how will the appeasing of all parties concerning the world's #1 hotspot the Temple Mount be accomplished ?


TOOLS

Dan 12:1
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"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people"

 

[JLB]

JLB, you haven't read the scriptures and you haven't understood them since I've shown how my message is what it says in the books that I've referenced. You have yet to show an explanation that better describes what the words mean.

I have read the scriptures and I have understood them.

Please make your point and use scripture, so we can evaluate your doctrine, thereby testing it to see if it is from God.


Here is a question for you about the tribulation.

When do you believe the great tribulation begins?





JLB

 

[Michael The Archangel]

This description of Daniel is a clearly speaking of future events.
As of 2022 Michael has not been called into service against Antiochus IV Epiphanies , or any other person for that matter.
My question still stands, how will the appeasing of all parties concerning the world's #1 hotspot the Temple Mount be accomplished ?


TOOLS

Dan 12:1
¶
"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people"

You are seeing an event that is not there. You've heard it said by preachers who interpreted it wrong. In Daniel 11, the beast that attacks is not dealing with foreign powers through peace. Again, the flatteries he dealt brought him to power within his own kingdom as it says he was an outsider and came to power through flatteries.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

I have read the scriptures and I have understood them.

Please make your point and use scripture, so we can evaluate your doctrine, thereby testing it to see if it is from God.


Here is a question for you about the tribulation.

When do you believe the great tribulation begins?





JLB

The Great Tribulation starts when the word is to such an extent that it may affect common knowledge, and there will be tribulation though not great, because of the word being preached the saints preaching it will be made to suffer and be persecuted by the powers that be, and then the saints will start praying and when enough saints pray and ask the Lord for power. That will start the Great Tribulation
because the beginning of the Tribulation is the Four Horsemen gathering the plagues to be released on the Earth and then they seal all the saints, and those plagues will be released at the will of the saints. They have the power to make it not rain and turn water to blood and cause all those plagues carried by the 4 horsemen.

Here it is written in Revelations 5 about the prayers that cause the plagues to be released to start the Great Tribulation:

"And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever."

^ After this event the Great Tribulation will begin.

 

[Consecrated Life]

You are seeing an event that is not there. You've heard it said by preachers who interpreted it wrong. In Daniel 11, the beast that attacks is not dealing with foreign powers through peace. Again, the flatteries he dealt brought him to power within his own kingdom as it says he was an outsider and came to power through flatteries.

Who is Michael " standing up " against ?
And on whose behalf is Michael standing up for ?

Dan 12:1
"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people"