Born Again?

[ezra]

Sorry Theodore Acts 2:38 reads "sins" plural not sin, singular. In fact plenty of times the NT even uses the word "sin" to stand for the plural.

Ezra, how do you know the thief wasn't baptized? Can you prove it? Any way you go the thief on the cross died and was buried long before Jesus said "he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.

Any way you go the thief on the cross died and was buried long before Jesus said "he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.

well yeah Christ was resurrected the thieves was not,,that makes about as much sense as expecting fish to live out side water

 

[ezra]

Hopefully you will get back from church tonight....

i took the time before heading to church...next

 

[BornAgain]

i took the time before heading to church...next

That was a quick meeting! :yes

 

[ezra]

Hopefully you will get back from church tonight....

if by some chance i don,t i hope you meet me in heaven..i have a know so salvation :yes:amen...i hope you do to,

 

[ezra]

That was a quick meeting! :yes

starts at 7 pm my time

 

[BornAgain]

In heaven?

Maybe Paradise?

 

[Butch5]

Maybe Paradise?

Maybe?

 

[ezra]

In heaven?

so you dont know?

 

[ezra]

not sure of your translation? I think we have been ask to describe the translation we use if it is not the (KJV) Which reads much different!
1Co 6:9

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Mitspa did ya ever notice the selected replies and the very short answers

 

[Butch5]

so you dont know?

Just don't see anything in the Scriptures that talk about going to heaven.

 

[BornAgain]

Just don't see anything in the Scriptures that talk about going to heaven.

That is true, sometimes you do not need to write a novel in order to agree on what the bible says...there is paradise until the day of judgement.

 

[Butch5]

That is true, sometimes you do not need to write a novel in order to agree on what the bible says...there is a paradise for now and then if you are lucky you will go to heaven at the day of judgement.

Hi Born Again,

Actually, I don't see anything that says people go to heaven. There is however, quite a bit of Scripture that says people will dwell on a restored earth

 

[ezra]

Hi Born Again,

Actually, I don't see anything that says people go to heaven. There is however, quite a bit of Scripture that says people will dwell on a restored earth

you are so far out in left field i have doubts you can make it to home.

That is true, sometimes you do not need to write a novel in order to agree on what the bible says...there is a paradise for now and then if you are lucky you will go to heaven at the day of judgement.

if luck is what your church teaches you best find one that teaches the truth. there is no such thing as luck for a true born again child of GOD. just where in the Bible do you get this carnal teaching of if lucky *?

 

[Mitspa]

you are so far out in left field i have doubts you can make it to home.


if luck is what your church teaches you best find one that teaches the truth. there is no such thing as luck for a true born again child of GOD. just where in the Bible do you get this carnal teaching of if lucky *?

Keep digging Brother Ezra! you aint heard half of what our friend "butch" believes?:toofunny

 

[ezra]

Just don't see anything in the Scriptures that talk about going to heaven.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Psalm 89:6
For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?


Matthew 3:17
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Matthew 5:12
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 24:50-52
King James Version (KJV)
50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.

51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:


Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

1 Peter 1:3-5
King James Version (KJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

John 14
King James Version (KJV)
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

There is however, quite a bit of Scripture that says people will dwell on a restored earth

so i take it your jehova witness :

 

[ezra]

Keep digging Brother Ezra! you aint heard half of what our friend "butch" believes?:toofunny

i am sure there will be some off the wall post one time butch says heaven? next he is backing up clarifying what he means . its almost like asking a lawyer a question he answers with a question:yes

 

[Butch5]

you are so far out in left field i have doubts you can make it to home.


if luck is what your church teaches you best find one that teaches the truth. there is no such thing as luck for a true born again child of GOD. just where in the Bible do you get this carnal teaching of if lucky *?

Left field? Can you show me a single passage of Scripture that says Christians will go to heaven? I can show you a bunch that speak about them dwelling on earth forever.

 

[Butch5]

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Psalm 89:6
For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?


Matthew 3:17
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Matthew 5:12
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 24:50-52
King James Version (KJV)
50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.

51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:


Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

1 Peter 1:3-5
King James Version (KJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

John 14
King James Version (KJV)
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

so i take it your jehova witness :

Can you please point out where a single passage of Scripture you posted says anything at all about Christians going to heaven?

No, I not a JW, I am a Christian who follows the Scriptures not the doctrines of men.

15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.​

(Gen 13:15-16 KJV)

8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. (Gen 17:8 KJV)

3 And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
4 And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.​

(Gen 48:3-4 KJV)

9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. (Psa 37:9 KJV)

11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. (Psa 37:11 KJV)

18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever. (Psa 37:18 KJV)

22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off. (Psa 37:22 KJV)

29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Psa 37:29 KJV)

34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. (Psa 37:34 KJV)

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. (Mat 5:5 KJV)

KJV Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.​

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. (Rev 21:1-3 KJV)

 

[ezra]

Can you please point out where a single passage of Scripture you posted says anything at all about Christians going to heaven?

No, I not a JW, I am a Christian who follows the Scriptures not the doctrines of men.

15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.​

(Gen 13:15-16 KJV)

8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. (Gen 17:8 KJV)

3 And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
4 And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.​

(Gen 48:3-4 KJV)

9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. (Psa 37:9 KJV)

11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. (Psa 37:11 KJV)

18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever. (Psa 37:18 KJV)

22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off. (Psa 37:22 KJV)

29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Psa 37:29 KJV)

34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. (Psa 37:34 KJV)

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. (Mat 5:5 KJV)

KJV Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.​

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. (Rev 21:1-3 KJV)

1 Peter 1:3-5
King James Version (KJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, question are you jehova witness? if not you are real close

 

[ezra]

Left field? Can you show me a single passage of Scripture that says Christians will go to heaven? I can show you a bunch that speak about them dwelling on earth forever.

1 Peter 1:3-5
King James Version (KJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,