Hi tzalem2,
I do believe God created it.
No, you don't. Not really.
My statement and your response are in the above quote.
Yes, I really do feel God created everything thru Jesus Christ using evolution as the tool of construction.
yes, you are choosing to mix lies with the truth...
That very simply put, isn't true. If there is a lie in what I wrote, I'm not aware of it so therefore I could not choose to mix lies with ...which part was true?
True science (knowledge) has NO conflict with the Bible
I would agree with that. None that I am aware of unless you choose to make the symbolic operate in the physical literally.
I stated the following:
The bible definately says God created this and that on day 1, day 2 etc. Nowhere do I get the idea that these days were as our days
You responded thusly:
perhaps you should examine your lack of faith?
or the foundation upon which you are building your belief system?
One of us has a shaky belief system I think.
What causes a day and a night in todays world? It is the earth revolving around the sun. The sun didn't come into being until the fourth day so tell me again that the days of the first bit of creation are 24 hours long.
Who says Jesus didn't spake into being the evolutionary process that would create dogs one day and a million years later spend a day creating something else.
No, your faith in man made theories tell you to believe really
hard and put more faith in the damnable theory of evolution
do you truly believe your ancestors were apes?
do you?
Here's your first problem, you don't know what evolution is. You have been listening to the lies of men.
Who told you that evolution would put apes as our ancesters? Where did that ever come from in todays world? That is panic jargon from the early days of Darwinism before Christians come to understand what evolution even was. That is 1800's stuff. Mankind didn't evolve from apes!!!!sheesh.
homo erectus et al, but not apes. Apes are still here for goodness sake, how could they have evolved into anything?
if you do, then, you have to work really hard to ignore what God says about animals and humans being totally different.
THe above is back to the ape thing and I'm sorry, it isn't me with the problem here.
Evolution of animals...you are aware that sabre tooth tigers are no longer here so they have died out. Dinosaurs aren't here either because they have died out. Now consider that when you investigate a dinosaur fossil site such as Drumheller, Alberta you can see in the layers of sediment laid down that Holstien milk cows are not fossilized in the same timeframe as Tyrannosaurus rex. Being that the T. rex was a meat eater there would be some ruminant evidence somewhere besides the layering restrictions.
You see it says the livestock were created the same day as the other animals. I don't doubt for a minute that God put the process in motion for all animals exactly as He said but I know for a absolute fact they didn't all come into existance within one 24 hour period or one thousand year period either.
I wrote:
The system that created the Hawaian Islands is still going on, another island is being created as we speak, so the creation of the world isn't finished yet.
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Strict biblcal creation won't fit with that,
It is no problem for me. If it does't fit for you there are two choices, either the bible is wrong or you are, because a new island is being formed in the exact same way as the others were.
by your sentence, here, I suspect you are not born again.
By 1 Peter 1 I am, by John 3 nobody reading this is, but don't digress to this topic until we deal with this one.
No, evolution cheapens the quality of the value of human life.
Think deeply about that.
If you keep on believing that we descended from animals, then, what value is human life? To evolutionists, humans are animals, not SEPARATE and entirely different from animals.
If you are an animal, then you have to ignore what God says about your value and importance. About your being separate.
I hate to tell you this but among the living there only exists PLANT or ANIMAL. You are animal, so am I. Before you condemn or possibly even discuss evolution , I would suggest you search out a reliable source and learn what it is, because you don't understand what evolution is at the moment.
The Holy Spirit gives a born again Christian understanding of the Word of God. Ask Jesus to save you, to come into your heart, and to be LORD over all of your thoughts.
This is a common statement made not only by born agains but other groups as well. It is also probably the easiest to prove wrong. All I have to do is go thru these threads and find opposing views put up by so called born agains and the theory is debunked. I won't bother because I've been there, done that.
Please take time tonight to examine your relationship with the Saviour, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is Lord.
I did that 50 years ago, I'm quite happy thank you.
No, He didn't. It's a lie from the devil, and you are being led astray.
It's a fight for your soul, and so far, the demons are winning the battle.
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. TRUST GOD TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
TRUST AND OBEY. what's that.
I gave you a couple of very easily uderstood and very basic evolutionary examples.(Hawaii and the cows and dinosaurs) Think about that. Evolution is there, it exists, if God didn't create it, who did?
I am resisting the devil in the form of false Christian doctrine.
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