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Can you continue to knowingly sin and remain a Christian?

Hopeful 2 said:
Not at all.
If the man who has turned from sin says he is a Christian, shouldn't we believe his judgement?
We are told to judge ourselves.
"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." (1 Cor 2:15)
"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? " (1 Cor 6:2-3)
"For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged." (1 Cor 11:31)
It is those who won't judge themselves who may find themselves on the outside looking in on the last day.
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We are judged of no man if we do the judgement of God.

The saints judge the world by doing just judgement, not by being unjust.

The same thing was told, the uncircumcision judges the circumcision, by fulfilling the righteousness, not by breaking it as the uncircumcision breaks. ( by not having righteous faith in Jesus Christ.


Romans 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?


Judging ourselves is by the judgement of God, not our own self seeing judgement. Self assurance is the opposite to the fear of the Lord. Here is that just judgement again for us all:


Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
 
grace2 said:
Matthew 7:21

True and False Disciples​

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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Grace2, why are you disputing with a nickname similar to yours hopeful 2, , and joined the forum. at a time similar to you. ( Jun 18, and Jun 20 respectively)
 
gordon777 said:
Grace2, why are you disputing with a nickname similar to yours hopeful 2, , and joined the forum. at a time similar to you. ( Jun 18, and Jun 20 respectively)
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There are many subtle difference yet makes a big difference.

I have seen that in most of trin believing posters in my almost 20 years of forum experience.

I am a non-trin.
 
gordon777 said:
What is worthless/without profit, is being without good works.
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That would indeed fit the definition.
So would being a liar, adulterer, or thief.
gordon777 said:
The evil works that the reprobate do constantly is listed, fornication, wickedness, coveting, full of envy, debate, deceit, divisions, whispering, backbiting, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventing evil things, disobedience, without understanding, covenant breakers, no natural affection, strong opinionated, unmerciful.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
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They don't even need to do them "constantly" to make the commiters of sin worthless to God and man.
 
gordon777 said:
We are judged of no man if we do the judgement of God.

The saints judge the world by doing just judgement, not by being unjust.

The same thing was told, the uncircumcision judges the circumcision, by fulfilling the righteousness, not by breaking it as the uncircumcision breaks. ( by not having righteous faith in Jesus Christ.


Romans 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?


Judging ourselves is by the judgement of God, not our own self seeing judgement. Self assurance is the opposite to the fear of the Lord. Here is that just judgement again for us all:


Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
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If one can't answer with a yes or no, one is worthless to be discussing anything with.
Do you really require verses from the bible to tell someone you are a Christian?
 
gordon777 said:
Anyone else on the forum who can notice things, or only people with agendas are here, so nobody cares what goes on ?
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Dear gordon777 ,
I have been here for over 6000 posts, but was recently hacked, and had to start over.
The site couldn't recognize my old user name so I had to reregister with this new user name.
There is nothing nefarious going on here.

I thank God for the grace to be able to forgive those that made my life miserable for about a week.
They didn't get anything out of my bank account, but it was sure close.
Thanks be to God !
 

Hopeful 2 said:
Hardly, as knowing whether or not one is a follower of the good Shepherd seems mighty important in day to day life.
Is it a bad thing to declare one is a servant of one's Lord?
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So you just declare yourself to be saved.

We will see that will work for you on the last day.

good day, friend.
 
Hopeful 2 said:
No, as I won't find that out until the day of judgement.
I will, however, declare I have converted.
From darkness to light.
From serving satan to serving God.

Yes, indeed we will.
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I started a related thread here:

Self Assurance Doctrines

There are many man-made doctrines taught by trin churches such as: "I am saved already so I cannot be judged." "I am born again because Jesus says so." Those doctrines are all out-of-context doctrines against Jesus' word. This is a gross teaching against Jesus' word of "If you love Me, keep...
christianforums.net christianforums.net

I hope you take a look.

blessings.
 
grace2 said:
Are you here to convince or convert people to your faith?
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Teaching transgressors the way of the Lord, sinners converted to Him. ( sin is not being with faith.)

The faith is to convert and become as little children.

The sinner is converted from the error of his way. ( of not having faith.)

Is it my faith, or it is the one faith there is, and we either have that faith, or we do not.



Psalm 51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.


Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
 
grace2 said:
There are many subtle difference yet makes a big difference.

I have seen that in most of trin believing posters in my almost 20 years of forum experience.

I am a non-trin.
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If you post for twenty years, what have you learned in that tine so far, about understanding God ?
 
Hopeful 2 said:
Hardly, as knowing whether or not one is a follower of the good Shepherd seems mighty important in day to day life.
Is it a bad thing to declare one is a servant of one's Lord?

Thanks.
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Is it a bad world, where men are not servants of the Lord, but their own belly, to take advice from anyone who thinks they should give some now ?



Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
 
Hopeful 2 said:
That would indeed fit the definition.
So would being a liar, adulterer, or thief.

They don't even need to do them "constantly" to make the commiters of sin worthless to God and man.
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Being a liar is stealing from God, that is the definition of not having good works.

The adulterer works good for themselves, that is why love waxes cold, iniquity abounds, and men are lovers of their own selves.


Good works need to be done constantly, so too, do wicked ones, according to that belief.


Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
 
Hopeful 2 said:
If one can't answer with a yes or no, one is worthless to be discussing anything with.
Do you really require verses from the bible to tell someone you are a Christian?
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One can answer yes or no, if one wants to.

You have declared a person no good to you, if they do not answer how you want them to answer.

Yes, we really need the truth from Gods word, to answer the truth. ( the words are Spirit and life of Jesus Christ./the Spirit of truth)
 
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