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Do You Support Capital Punishment? (Death For Certain Crimes)

what, what?
What do you mean "I CAN'T IGNORE CLEAR STATEMENTS BY GOD ON CAPITAL OFFENSES"....

A witch should die?
An adulterer should die?
Dishonoring parents deserves death?

Please clarify what you stated.

Before birth control and welfare, what do you think adultery resulted in? Just like a DP opponents who care nothing for the thousands upon thousands of innocent victims of murderers, fans of adultery care nothing about the fate of thousands upon thousands of unwanted children. He's easy to not commit adultery. It's hard to survive if you're a child living in the streets.

America has the Death Penalty for witches, because most liberals demand it! The modern death penalty is most financial, but some prison. If you commit witchcraft (which is labeled which such words as "racism"), our society seeks to bankrupt you. Right now, there are two men, who seem like fine men to me, accused of witchcraft. They'll lose all their money and go to prison? Why because they were white, had a pick up truck, and tried to talk to a black man on the street, who attacked them and they then shot in self-defense.
 
Before birth control and welfare, what do you think adultery resulted in? Just like a DP opponents who care nothing for the thousands upon thousands of innocent victims of murderers, fans of adultery care nothing about the fate of thousands upon thousands of unwanted children. He's easy to not commit adultery. It's hard to survive if you're a child living in the streets.

America has the Death Penalty for witches, because most liberals demand it! The modern death penalty is most financial, but some prison. If you commit witchcraft (which is labeled which such words as "racism"), our society seeks to bankrupt you. Right now, there are two men, who seem like fine men to me, accused of witchcraft. They'll lose all their money and go to prison? Why because they were white, had a pick up truck, and tried to talk to a black man on the street, who attacked them and they then shot in self-defense.
Tertul,
You sound pretty upset over some social problems.
In time we'll all get to know you better and understand you better.

For now, I'd say that you also need to get to know us.
The two men you're speaking of, I know nothing about.
If they shot in self-defense then they did the right thing. But we weren't there.
You equate witchcraft with racism. I've never been racist so I don't understand what you mean.
You mention fans of adultery.
I'm not one of them and what do abandoned children have to do with this?

Just take it easy and write about one thing at a time and I'll be more than happy to reply.
 
Jeff Dahmer had become trash. You know. The serial killer. I cant imagine that guy becoming born again in Jesus Christ. Some have just regressed too far in the animal state. Some might say everyone is redeemable. Im not convinced.
Dahmer was killed in prison anyway.
 
Jeff Dahmer had become trash. You know. The serial killer. I cant imagine that guy becoming born again in Jesus Christ. Some have just regressed too far in the animal state. Some might say everyone is redeemable. Im not convinced.
Dahmer was killed in prison anyway.
FYI
It HAS been stated on this thread that some are beyond redemption and are too evil.
 
Oh....
I'm not getting into this discussion again.

But, yes, that would be murder....
and God said not to murder in the 10 commandments...

So I leave you to figure it out.
In the Torah given Moses,those are commands.

God allows and called those commands murder ?
Numbers 25,6 and 7 .phone as slays a man in a tent .

So murder and God removes the plague .

God tells them to wipe out everyone in,the land whom he judged ,yup,murder .

You are and bad ground
 
Numbers 25,6 and 7 .phone as slays a man in a tent .

So murder and God removes the plague .

God tells them to wipe out everyone in,the land whom he judged ,yup,murder .

You are and bad ground
It's the ground God put me on.
He'll deal with me.
 
You equate witchcraft with racism. I've never been racist so I don't understand what you mean.

Our society wants to destroy alleged racists. Racism is a matter of belief, like witchcraft. Both are abhorrent beliefs, and to oppose one and not the other is hypocrisy. Wanting to destroy people for their beliefs is very contrary to traditional western values, and the First Amendment. And, yet, the liberal establishment in this country engages in endless witch hunts looking for people to proverbially execute, usually over trumped up accusations.

You mention fans of adultery.
I'm not one of them and what do abandoned children have to do with this?

In ancient times, adultery was a slow, miserable death sentence for children.
 
It's the ground God put me on.
He'll deal with me.
I'm a man who God forbade to read the new testament for a bit .I prefer the tanakh,gives groundimg.

God himself killed the firstborn of every male who didn't put blood on the door posts .babies .

God is a murderer.

So you believe man added to the bible and god let that murder go on and unchecked and yet he hates those that shed innocent blood,its in,proverbs.

Moses would be in sheol
 
Our society wants to destroy alleged racists. Racism is a matter of belief, like witchcraft. Both are abhorrent beliefs, and to oppose one and not the other is hypocrisy. Wanting to destroy people for their beliefs is very contrary to traditional western values, and the First Amendment. And, yet, the liberal establishment in this country engages in endless witch hunts looking for people to proverbially execute, usually over trumped up accusations.



In ancient times, adultery was a slow, miserable death sentence for children.
The arbury issue is another topic,however I personally know of men who have refused to raise their kids and pay child support because of such I had too.not even my blood .if their was no law to force alimony and or child support kids would be starving if they didn't have support

Even if they did this places a burden on the older parents ,surely God had this in mind when he ordained the death for this .

We surely wouldn't see God as unjust in his view on circumcision when he created it and Moses nearly was also. For not circumcision if his youngest son .
 
If God is not into or ordain the death penalty what exactly is the final judgement ?

He flooded the earth ,he burned Sodom ,he judged is real via rome,chaldea,and Assyria.
 
Paul was trying to make Christians understand that if they didn't fight against the Roman govt, they'd have a better life and might even save it.

He meant that if a person is innocent, the govt would not bother them, and so all laws and rules should be followed so they could be left in peace to live their lives.

God ordained govt.
What if it's the German govt of 1935?
which brought about the one of 1945 and before?
I think perhaps Paul knew Rome couldn't have been in Israel apart from Gods will. And history shows those that rebelled against that authority perished.

I think its quite clear in the absence of any form of government lawlessness reigns. The lawless are in the woodwork's always ready to appear. You see the looting on TV sometimes during natural disasters.
 
Have you read the law given by God? He ordered it for murder. Even threatened if His command was not carried out.
I agree with your post no. 92

But as to the above....You're not really answering my question.

You say that God ordered murder.
But one of HIS commandments states that we are not to commit murder.

God made us in His image and gave us some of His attributes.
A moral base would be one of them.

God is a purely holy and moral being.
How could HE do something that goes against morals?

Is it moral to kill someone?
No.
Then how could God want to kill someone if He is purely moral?

God cannot be separated from His attributes.
 
You say that God ordered murder.
But one of HIS commandments states that we are not to commit murder.

God made us in His image and gave us some of His attributes.
A moral base would be one of them.

God is a purely holy and moral being.
How could HE do something that goes against morals?

I can't believe you're not familiar with the numerous crimes that God ordained the Death Penalty for (by stoning). I can't believe you're unfamiliar with all the wars God ordained to punish wicked nations. I can't believe you have no concept of justice, that you'd think killing an innocent person is the same as executing a murderer. So, what's your deal?

I can believe Death Penalty opponents hate innocent people. So, they oppose the most effective tool for saving the lives of innocent people and in preventing innocent people from being convicted for murder.
 
I agree with your post no. 92

But as to the above....You're not really answering my question.

You say that God ordered murder.
But one of HIS commandments states that we are not to commit murder.

God made us in His image and gave us some of His attributes.
A moral base would be one of them.

God is a purely holy and moral being.
How could HE do something that goes against morals?

Is it moral to kill someone?
No.
Then how could God want to kill someone if He is purely moral?

God cannot be separated from His attributes.
He ordered justice.
It is lawful to put to death someone found guilty of capitol murder on the testimony of 2 or more witnesses.

God is Holy and He shows Himself Holy.

I am not stating its mandatory for my country. I am stating its lawful.
 
When I read about a parent or parents murdering their little child I think such a person should be put to death. So there are "some" cases that I do support the death penalty.
 
God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Jesus came not to change the law, but fulfill.
The only thing that was changed was the ordinances. They were nailed on the cross. Col.2:15, no more blood sacrifice, He was is our sacrifice, He became our circumcision, and so on, rituals...

The death penalty is good. If one is found guilty without doubt.

Premeditated murder, lie in wait, should be punishable.

I have every right to defend myself.

Think about it,
The world would not be in the mess it is today.
There will be less adultery . Lol

People would think twice before committing any crime.

I really don't care what society thinks of me, I do care about what God has stated.

Deut.19:11-21
If a man lie and wait, and smite the man, and fleeth into another city, the elders of his city shall fetch the man, deliver him to be put to death.

Reason:

Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that:
It MAY GO WELL WITH THEE.

Deut.27:24
Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbor secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.

N.T.
Matt.5:21,22.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill, they will be in danger of the judgment.
But I say unto you, That whomsoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment.


I am not heartless, There is such a thing as "tough love".
Some might think you can save Satan.

God is the ultimate Judge.
regardless if one thinks he gets by with murder.
 
God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Jesus came not to change the law, but fulfill.
The only thing that was changed was the ordinances. They were nailed on the cross. Col.2:15, no more blood sacrifice, He was is our sacrifice, He became our circumcision, and so on, rituals...

The death penalty is good. If one is found guilty without doubt.

Premeditated murder, lie in wait, should be punishable.

I have every right to defend myself.

Think about it,
The world would not be in the mess it is today.
There will be less adultery . Lol

People would think twice before committing any crime.

I really don't care what society thinks of me, I do care about what God has stated.

Deut.19:11-21
If a man lie and wait, and smite the man, and fleeth into another city, the elders of his city shall fetch the man, deliver him to be put to death.

Reason:

Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that:
It MAY GO WELL WITH THEE.

Deut.27:24
Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbor secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.

N.T.
Matt.5:21,22.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill, they will be in danger of the judgment.
But I say unto you, That whomsoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment.


I am not heartless, There is such a thing as "tough love".
Some might think you can save Satan.

God is the ultimate Judge.
regardless if one thinks he gets by with murder.
I live near those that see the world like that .to wit ,that Satan can be redeemed .
 
I can't believe you're not familiar with the numerous crimes that God ordained the Death Penalty for (by stoning). I can't believe you're unfamiliar with all the wars God ordained to punish wicked nations. I can't believe you have no concept of justice, that you'd think killing an innocent person is the same as executing a murderer. So, what's your deal?

I can believe Death Penalty opponents hate innocent people. So, they oppose the most effective tool for saving the lives of innocent people and in preventing innocent people from being convicted for murder.
What makes you think I'm unfamiliar with the O.T.?

What is justice?

And I don't really understand your second paragraph...
It sounds conflicting......
 
He ordered justice.
It is lawful to put to death someone found guilty of capitol murder on the testimony of 2 or more witnesses.

God is Holy and He shows Himself Holy.

I am not stating its mandatory for my country. I am stating its lawful.
Where does the bible speak of the testimony of two persons?
I can't remember.

Holiness has nothing to do with our discussion.

Justice has to do with it.

But I've asked two persons already and no one has replied as to what justice means.
 
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