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Erroneous additons to the Word of God !

Mysteryman said:
Hi glorydaz

LOL , oh really ! You think I give more power to man , than I do to God. This shows your misunderstanding of scripture ! All power is of God, and he will not leave your soul in the grave because of the power of God ! But the truth is, is that your body and soul go to the grave in this life !

When you are alive here upon this earth, the spirit of man communicates to the mind that which it understands and hears. God spoke to the spirit of man in the garden. God had Adam name all of the animals. Adam didn't go to school in order to learn how to name the animals. God told him what to call each animal ! Only when he put his Spirit upon man, was that paticular man a prophet of God. But even a prophet of God had also the spirit of man with him. The serpent talked to the woman in the garden by way of his spirit unto the spirit of man , of the woman. The serpent does not talk verbally in the literal sense. Even when Jesus was taken up into the mountain to be tempted. The devil talked to the Spirit of Jesus Christ. The devil didn't talk to Jesus in the verbal literal sense. But Jesus did talk back to him verbally and spiritually. That is because when we communicate , we communicate in the spirit of man. So the devil knows what we say, but never knows what we are thinking.

I suggest you study the difference between the soul and the spirit of man. This is a short coming within your life and understandings. I truely believe you would gain a much greater insight if you do this. Ask God while studying , to reveal unto you the difference between the soul and the spirit of man.

And the greatest lie recorded in scripture , is that "ye shall not surely die" !

Bless
Nope, Mr. Smartypants.... :biglaugh
Since Jesus confirmed we will not surely die if we believe in Him.
John 5:24 said:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
God had told Adam, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Satan's lie was that they could disobey God and live.
Gen. 3:2-5 said:
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Rather than worry about my shortcomings, I suggest you consider your own denial of what the Word tells us quite plainly. Our flesh dies...but our soul and our spirit can have life everlasting through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. As I said, you're confused about man's triune nature. And, you give man more power than you give God. His Word is truth and through it you, too, can find life everlasting.
 
glorydaz said:
Mysteryman said:
Hi glorydaz

LOL , oh really ! You think I give more power to man , than I do to God. This shows your misunderstanding of scripture ! All power is of God, and he will not leave your soul in the grave because of the power of God ! But the truth is, is that your body and soul go to the grave in this life !

When you are alive here upon this earth, the spirit of man communicates to the mind that which it understands and hears. God spoke to the spirit of man in the garden. God had Adam name all of the animals. Adam didn't go to school in order to learn how to name the animals. God told him what to call each animal ! Only when he put his Spirit upon man, was that paticular man a prophet of God. But even a prophet of God had also the spirit of man with him. The serpent talked to the woman in the garden by way of his spirit unto the spirit of man , of the woman. The serpent does not talk verbally in the literal sense. Even when Jesus was taken up into the mountain to be tempted. The devil talked to the Spirit of Jesus Christ. The devil didn't talk to Jesus in the verbal literal sense. But Jesus did talk back to him verbally and spiritually. That is because when we communicate , we communicate in the spirit of man. So the devil knows what we say, but never knows what we are thinking.

I suggest you study the difference between the soul and the spirit of man. This is a short coming within your life and understandings. I truely believe you would gain a much greater insight if you do this. Ask God while studying , to reveal unto you the difference between the soul and the spirit of man.

And the greatest lie recorded in scripture , is that "ye shall not surely die" !

Bless
Nope, Mr. Smartypants.... :biglaugh
Since Jesus confirmed we will not surely die if we believe in Him.
John 5:24 said:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
God had told Adam, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Satan's lie was that they could disobey God and live.
[quote="Gen. 3:2-5":4rontth8]And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Rather than worry about my shortcomings, I suggest you consider your own denial of what the Word tells us quite plainly. Our flesh dies...but our soul and our spirit can have life everlasting through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. As I said, you're confused about man's triune nature. And, you give man more power than you give God. His Word is truth and through it you, too, can find life everlasting.[/quote:4rontth8]

Hi glorydaz

You make it sound like I have not found life everlasting . What makes a person make such a statement such as this ?

The only difference between our beliefs, is that you say the soul does not go to the grave, and I say that it does. You say it does not die when the body dies, but goes directly to heaven; whereas I say that the time is future, but that it still will occur. I see it as a difference in time frame. Not a distinction as to if one is or is not saved unto life everlasting. Nor do I see our differences having anything to do with whether or not one understands or believes in the power of God. We both believe in the power of God, but your time frame is just not correct. Your in a rush, and I am being patient.

And the truth is, the greatest lie ever told , is this lie from the serpent, that "Ye shall not surely die" !
And he is still telling the same old lie, and getting away with it. :yes

A lie must be believed before a lie can be manifested. One can tell me all day that 2 + 2 = 5. Even though it is a lie, the lie does not become manifested until someone accepts the lie. The woman in the garden accepted the lie and thus the lie became manifested.

The scriptures are clear, that when you die, your body and soul go to the grave . A resurrection must take place before they get up. They are now in the hands and power of God. There are only two resurrections that are recorded within the Word of God. Neither of them have taken place as of yet. So everyone who has ever died, except Christ, is still waiting for their paticular resurrection to take place. The first recorded resurrection is the gathering up of the saints. And if you look around closely, you will see that we are still here ! :yes

Bless
 
Mysteryman said:
And the truth is, the greatest lie ever told , is this lie from the serpent, that "Ye shall not surely die" !
And he is still telling the same old lie, and getting away with it. :yes

No, it isn't the "greatest lie". And again, you take this out of context. It doesn't say anything about the soul dying or not.

Mysteryman said:
A lie must be believed before a lie can be manifested. One can tell me all day that 2 + 2 = 5. Even though it is a lie, the lie does not become manifested until someone accepts the lie. The woman in the garden accepted the lie and thus the lie became manifested.

You are misinformed. The woman's issue was to become like God without God. The lie had nothing to do with whether a soul remained in the grave. That is foolish, since NO ONE had died yet in Scriptures. How could this had been a concern for Eve or Adam???

Mysteryman said:
The scriptures are clear, that when you die, your body and soul go to the grave .

You love to ignore Scriptures that say the opposite, don't you. You do not address them, so they must not exist... This is called "wishful thinking". It's one of the strange human behaviors called "denial".

Mysteryman said:
A resurrection must take place before they get up. They are now in the hands and power of God.

Resurrection only refers to the body. Nowhere does Scriptures speak of the soul being resurrected.

Mysteryman said:
There are only two resurrections that are recorded within the Word of God. Neither of them have taken place as of yet.

LOL!!!

Ever hear of this Man named "Jesus of Nazareth"??? It has been reported that He rose from the dead, bodily. His soul never died, according to 1 Peter. We are promised the exact same thing. Hence, our soul will not die - as the Scriptures note. Those who believe in Christ shall NEVER die.

Did I mention NEVER die??? Now, since we know the body dies, and Christ is not a liar, we must presume that some element of man remains alive and goes to heaven. Scriptures call it the soul, that goes to God upon death of the body. Thus, a man's (saint) memories, intellect and will are now in heaven, according to Revelation 6.

Oh, you ignored that, as well. sorry...

Mysteryman said:
So everyone who has ever died, except Christ, is still waiting for their paticular resurrection to take place. The first recorded resurrection is the gathering up of the saints. And if you look around closely, you will see that we are still here ! :yes

Yea, they are waiting for their bodies while their souls are in heaven...

See, you cannot understand that you contradict yourself and with Scriptures. Revelation clearly shows that the saints are active in heaven, RIGHT NOW. They retain their memories. They call out to God, worship Him. Yet, you claim our souls await a resurrection and remain dead? What exactly is alive in heaven?

And you still have not defined the difference between soul and spirit that makes any sense.

Regards
 
Hi francis

You do realize that when Jesus Christ died, his soul went to the grave with him ?

Not only that, but he was "dead" ? Both body and soul !
 
Mysteryman said:
Hi francis

You do realize that when Jesus Christ died, his soul went to the grave with him ?

Not only that, but he was "dead" ? Both body and soul !

Impossible. The Word of God's soul cannot die. Did God no longer have a Word while it lay in the tomb???

Furthermore, 1 Peter says Christ went down to "the prison" before His resurrection.

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. ; 1 Peter 3:18-20

Clearly, Christ was able to preach to those in Hades, the sometime-disobedient (not in hell, obviously).

For Christ to preach and for others to hear it requires an element of humanity that REMAINS ALIVE after the body dies.

The "great lie" you are proclaiming is quite easily overturned.

End of story.
 
To reiterate that the erroneous additon to the Word of God , that Jesus went down to preach and witness to those spirits in prison is erroneous. This would mean that Jesus was not dead.

If Jesus was not dead, both body and soul, then by shear logic, Jesus did not redeem us from the law of sin and death.

These erroneous additons are just one way in which the adversary of God can deceive. He is the author of the lie. And the greatest lie unto the world, is that "ye shall not surely die" !

The truth is, is that when you die, you die both body and soul. The sting of sin is death, the strength of sin is the law. < I Corinth. 15:56

I Corinth. 15:57 - "But thanks be to God , which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ"

But lets not forget -- That the last enemy that shall be destroyed is "death". < This is still future people !

Death is still a part of this life. We still die, and when we die, we die both body and soul. This is because the last enemy that shall be destroyed, which is still future, is death !

The greatest lie in the world, is that "ye shall not surely die" ! !

Bless
 
Mysteryman said:
To reiterate that the erroneous additon to the Word of God , that Jesus went down to preach and witness to those spirits in prison is erroneous. This would mean that Jesus was not dead.


Who said that the soul of Jesus died?

Our souls live forever. The body of Jesus died and was resurrected.


So I gather from your post that you believe anything in the bible that contradicts your personal dogma is an erroneous addition? Is this correct?
 
chestertonrules said:
Mysteryman said:
To reiterate that the erroneous additon to the Word of God , that Jesus went down to preach and witness to those spirits in prison is erroneous. This would mean that Jesus was not dead.


Who said that the soul of Jesus died?

Our souls live forever. The body of Jesus died and was resurrected.


So I gather from your post that you believe anything in the bible that contradicts your personal dogma is an erroneous addition? Is this correct?

Hi

You can believe whatever you please. These are your beliefs. I line my beliefs up with the scriptures. If Jesus did not die both body and soul, then we were not redeemed from the sin of death. It is as simple as that !

The soul is breath life and memory. In the grave, not one human being has any memory, not one !

Jesus was made sin for us. And if the sin of death is to have been defeated, then Jesus had to die both body and soul. We know that the last enemy that shall be destroyed is "death". Not the sin of death, but death. Jesus fulfilled the sting of death, because he fulfilled the law pertaining to the sin of death.

The law has been fulfilled , and the law of sin of death has been fulfilled. But the last enemy that still needs to be destroyed is death.

When you die, you die the same way and in the same manner that every human being has ever died . Both body and soul ! ! The book of Psalm is clear that the soul goes to the grave when you die, and that it will be refreshed = redeemed from death. Not at the day of your death, but at a future time of one of the two resurrections. When Jesus died, he went to the grave body, soul, and Spirit. Spirit does not die, but it sleeps. The body and soul dies ! Jesus didn't have the spirit of man, as we all do. He had the Spirit of God. And God can not and would not contradict His own Word !

It is a half truth, which is a lie, to believe that when Christ died, that his body died, but not his soul. As difficult as this is to grasp, because of the greatest lie in the world, that "ye shall not surely die", has become accepted by the world . It has been incorporated into the beliefs of many. That the truth seems more like a lie, than the actual lie itself !

We as Christians, when we die, we die body, soul, and we also have the Spirit of his Son in us. The Spirit of his Son remain with us. During our death, our Spirit sleepeth. Yet, our body and soul are dead ! Our soul does not go anywhere , as this is a lie ! Only the spirit of man goes back to God, not our soul !

I will repeat this one more time -----> The greatest lie in the world, is that ----> "Ye shall not surely die"

The "Hope" is what our faith is based upon, or at least should be . The "Hope" is Christ comeing back to gather up the church. The dead in Christ rise first, then those remaining will be caught up "together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air , and then we will ever be with the Lord. < And not until such time ! WE who are a part of the body of Christ, will "together" = the dead in Christ and those who remain alive at his coming, will meet the Lord at the exact same time all together.

Our soul and our Spirit (not our bodies) will be raised from Mortal unto immortality, and we will receive a new body fashioned liken unto his body. Then we will be complete with > body, soul, and Spirit, "As he is".

Bless
 
Mysteryman said:
glorydaz said:
Nope, Mr. Smartypants.... :biglaugh
Since Jesus confirmed we will not surely die if we believe in Him.
John 5:24 said:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
God had told Adam, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Satan's lie was that they could disobey God and live.
[quote="Gen. 3:2-5":2v5nsadw]And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Rather than worry about my shortcomings, I suggest you consider your own denial of what the Word tells us quite plainly. Our flesh dies...but our soul and our spirit can have life everlasting through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. As I said, you're confused about man's triune nature. And, you give man more power than you give God. His Word is truth and through it you, too, can find life everlasting.

Hi glorydaz

You make it sound like I have not found life everlasting . What makes a person make such a statement such as this ?

The only difference between our beliefs, is that you say the soul does not go to the grave, and I say that it does. You say it does not die when the body dies, but goes directly to heaven; whereas I say that the time is future, but that it still will occur. I see it as a difference in time frame. Not a distinction as to if one is or is not saved unto life everlasting. Nor do I see our differences having anything to do with whether or not one understands or believes in the power of God. We both believe in the power of God, but your time frame is just not correct. Your in a rush, and I am being patient.

And the truth is, the greatest lie ever told , is this lie from the serpent, that "Ye shall not surely die" !
And he is still telling the same old lie, and getting away with it. :yes [/quote:2v5nsadw]

I made the statement hoping to shock you back to your sensibilities. It appears to have worked. Now you're saying the only difference between us is our belief about where our soul goes when we die. Does that sound like an essential for salvation? I told you earlier it could not be satan's biggest lie because what we think on this issue does not affect our salvation. Thus it cannot possibly be satan's biggest lie. Satan's biggest lie is that we will live if we disobey God. Not whether our soul goes to the grave or goes to be with God.
 
Mysteryman said:
chestertonrules said:
Who said that the soul of Jesus died?

Our souls live forever. The body of Jesus died and was resurrected.

So I gather from your post that you believe anything in the bible that contradicts your personal dogma is an erroneous addition? Is this correct?

Hi

You can believe whatever your you please. These are your beliefs. I line my beliefs up with the scriptures. If Jesus did not die both body and soul, then we were not redeemed from the sin of death. It is as simple as that !

The soul is breath life and memory. In the grave, not one human being has any memory, not one !

Jesus was made sin for us. And if the sin of death is to have been defeated, then Jesus had to die both body and soul. We know that the last enemy that shall be destroyed is "death". Not the sin of death, but death. Jesus fulfilled the sting of death, because he fulfilled the law pertaining to the sin of death.

The law has been fulfilled , and the law of sin of death has been fulfilled. But the last enemy that still needs to be destroyed is death.

When you die, you die the same way and in the same manner that every human being has ever died . Both body and soul ! ! The book of Psalm is clear that the soul goes to the grave when you die, and that it will be refreshed = redeemed from death. Not at the day of your death, but at a future time of one of the two resurrections. When Jesus died, he went to the grave body, soul, and Spirit. Spirit does not die, but it sleeps. The body and soul dies ! Jesus didn't have the spirit of man, as we all do. He had the Spirit of God. And God can not and would not contradict His own Word !

It is a half truth, which is a lie, to believe that when Christ died, that his body died, but not his soul. As difficult as this is to grasp, because of the greatest lie in the world, that "ye shall not surely die", has become accepted by the world . It has been incorporated into the beliefs of many. That the truth seems more like a lie, than the actual lie itself !

We as Christians, when we die, we die body, soul, and we also have the Spirit of his Son in us. The Spirit of his Son remain with us. During our death, our Spirit sleepeth. Yet, our body and soul are dead ! Our soul does not go anywhere , as this is a lie ! Only the spirit of man goes back to God, not our soul !

I will repeat this one more time -----> The greatest lie in the world, is that ----> "Ye shall not surely die"

The "Hope" is what our faith is based upon, or at least should be . The "Hope" is Christ comeing back to gather up the church. The dead in Christ rise first, then those remaining will be caught up "together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air , and then we will ever be with the Lord. < And not until such time ! WE who are a part of the body of Christ, will "together" = the dead in Christ and those who remain alive at his coming, will meet the Lord at the exact same time all together.

Our soul and our Spirit (not our bodies) will be raised from Mortal unto immortality, and we will receive a new body fashioned liken unto his body. Then we will be complete with > body, soul, and Spirit, "As he is".

Bless

More balogna ...

Jesus' soul did not die, nor does man's soul. It appears you are merely spouting the same things without addressing any of the arguments. As such, this is just faulty preaching of a person who doesn't want to admit they are wrong, rather than logical discussion. You claim your beliefs line up with Scriptures, but yet, where does it say "Jesus' soul died" or anything of that nature? HOW did Jesus go to the prison to preach BEFORE he arose???

by the way, you are confused on the makeup of man, it is not "body, soul, and spirit". That is the error called Tricotomy.
 
Hi glorydaz

It is the greatest lie. There is no doubt whatsoever !

Our salvation is based upon "My sheep shall hear my voice". I am not concerned about you receiving salvation, even though we still have to bring forth the truth of salvation. I would however be concerned about how one treats or cherisheth their salvation. We are to work out our salvation with trembling and fear. We are never to take our salvation lightly.

The deception pertaining to what happens to your body and soul is the base by which he can cause many deceptions. One lie covers up many other lies that he puts forth in order to deceive.


The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Your theory is saying that death has already been destroyed, because your soul is in heaven. Yet, not one human being has their soul in heaven, other than Jesus Christ. On top of that, there is not one place in the Word which tells us that "when" you die, your soul goes to heaven. The Word does tell us, that when we die, the spirit of man goes back to God, who gave it. Another lie is that the soul and the spirit of man, are the same in one. The lies just keep on coming, because one lie blinds one, so that he can tell another lie, and then another lie and then another lie. His deception just continues on, and this deception will always be the avenue for another lie of deception.

I'm trying to shake up your mind - LOL - :lol

Peace
 
Quote francis: "you are confused on the makeup of man, it is not "body, soul, and spirit".


Hi francis

To be honest, after this comment you just made, I am at a loss for words . If this is where you beliefs have taken you . I would only try and encourage you to study the scriptures . Your statement above is just not true !

Bless

Correction made from glorydaz unto francis
 
Mysteryman said:
To reiterate that the erroneous additon to the Word of God , that Jesus went down to preach and witness to those spirits in prison is erroneous. This would mean that Jesus was not dead.

If Jesus was not dead, both body and soul, then by shear logic, Jesus did not redeem us from the law of sin and death.

No, Jesus was the sacrificial lamb. He bore our sins in His body.
1 Peter 2:24 said:
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

The word of God is never "erroneous".
Your denial of the Word, however, is causing you to preach error.
That isn't good.

Is this one of those "additions by men" that you claim shouldn't be in the Bible?
Ephesians 4:8-10 said:
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
And this, too, I suppose?
1 Peter 3:18-20 said:
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
And, best of all, Luke 16 is merely a parable.
Too bad Jesus didn't consider so many in his body might be misled by it, huh? ;)
 
Mysteryman said:
Quote glorydaz: "you are confused on the makeup of man, it is not "body, soul, and spirit".


Hi glorydaz

To be honest, after this comment you just made, I am at a loss for words . If this is where you beliefs have taken you . I would only try and encourage you to study the scriptures . Your statement above is just not true !

Bless

That's a quote from me?

If I said that, I'll need proof.... :screwloose
 
Mysteryman said:
Hi glorydaz

It is the greatest lie. There is no doubt whatsoever !

Our salvation is based upon "My sheep shall hear my voice". I am not concerned about you receiving salvation, even though we still have to bring forth the truth of salvation. I would however be concerned about how one treats or cherisheth their salvation. We are to work out our salvation with trembling and fear. We are never to take our salvation lightly.

The deception pertaining to what happens to your body and soul is the base by which he can cause many deceptions. One lie covers up many other lies that he puts forth in order to deceive.


The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Your theory is saying that death has already been destroyed, because your soul is in heaven. Yet, not one human being has their soul in heaven, other than Jesus Christ. On top of that, there is not one place in the Word which tells us that "when" you die, your soul goes to heaven. The Word does tell us, that when we die, the spirit of man goes back to God, who gave it. Another lie is that the soul and the spirit of man, are the same in one. The lies just keep on coming, because one lie blinds one, so that he can tell another lie, and then another lie and then another lie. His deception just continues on, and this deception will always be the avenue for another lie of deception.

I'm trying to shake up your mind - LOL - :lol

Peace


Don't be telling me what I believe....false accusations. :shame

If you can't understand what I've said, just say so.
Don't be making things up about what I believe. :screwloose
 
glorydaz said:
Mysteryman said:
Quote glorydaz: "you are confused on the makeup of man, it is not "body, soul, and spirit".


Hi glorydaz

To be honest, after this comment you just made, I am at a loss for words . If this is where you beliefs have taken you . I would only try and encourage you to study the scriptures . Your statement above is just not true !

Bless

That's a quote from me?

If I said that, I'll need proof.... :screwloose

My bad , sorry glorydaz

Francis said that, that should have been addressed to him not you, sorry for the mistake.
 
Quote glorydaz: "Is this one of those "additions by men" that you claim shouldn't be in the Bible?
Ephesians 4:8-10 wrote:
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Hi glorydaz

Notice the parenthesis ? The translators wanted you to understand that they added this phrase, and that it was not within the text that the translation was taken from.
 
Hi glorydaz:

One thing that I believe is essential in our conversation with one another is this word "soul"

Our bodies do not need saving, but our souls do need saving.

As I said before , when our body dies our soul dies as well and goes to the grave.

Salvation is based upon saving a soul from death - James 5:20 - "Let him know that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hid a multitude of sins"

I Peter 1:9 - "Receiving the end of your faith, the salvation of your souls"

Consider these verses

Bless
 
["Mysteryman [
You can believe whatever you please. These are your beliefs. I line my beliefs up with the scriptures. If Jesus did not die both body and soul, then we were not redeemed from the sin of death. It is as simple as that !

1 Peter 3
18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.
 
chestertonrules said:
["Mysteryman [
You can believe whatever you please. These are your beliefs. I line my beliefs up with the scriptures. If Jesus did not die both body and soul, then we were not redeemed from the sin of death. It is as simple as that !

1 Peter 3
18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.

Hi C

The sole (not soul :yes ) purpose of this thread is to expose the erroneous additons within our translations.

Verse 19 is an addition to the holy scriptures, thus it is not holy/pure

If Jesus could preach , then his soul was still alive and not dead. The Word tells us , that he was made sin for us, who knew no sin. His soul "had" to die in order that we were redeemed from the sin of death. His soul had to die, in order that our souls could be saved from death unto life.

Think on these things
 
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