[_ Old Earth _] Evolution is incompatible with the Bible

[cubedbee]

Ok, to set the record straight, blue is saying that everybody who doesn't believe exactly as she does is a pagan.

:o No,to set the record on the straight and narrow,thats not true.
Those who are seeking God and the truth will find him,and thats what
I honestly believe. You must have a love for the truth,if not,you
will believe lies. If you have a problem with me,I don't understand
it. All you have to do is live your life for Jesus Christ and love the
truth. I don't have to agree with what you say either,yet I hardly
think that makes me a bad person.

Blue, I've told you this many times. I am a Christian. I believe in evolution. You repeatedly make the false claim that evolution is a religion and that evolutionists are Pagans. This is why I have a problem with you. You are narrowminded and judgemental of your fellow Christians because of your inability to understand science.

 

[BenjaminTC]

Blueeyeliner: Please list the gods that the theory of evolution recognizes, thereby proving it to be a pagan religion. Thank you.

 

[Guest]

This is why I have a problem with you. You are narrowminded and judgemental of your fellow Christians because of your inability to understand science.[/quote]

:B-fly: I am sorry if I forgot for a moment that you were a
christian,but I have no problem with Scientists who are against
evolution,those saved and not yet saved.
It's not about science,it's about personal views.
I don't feel that I am trying to judge anyone,and
especially not those who share my faith.
We are here to share our opinions and our personal views.

 

[Guest]

Blueeyeliner: Please list the gods that the theory of evolution recognizes, thereby proving it to be a pagan religion. Thank you.

:B-fly: I haven't forgotten you.
One,as you know is Isis. Others are,Mother Earth,and the worship of
all creation rather than the creator. Animal worship,and worshiping
of the planets and the stars.
The worship of a female god sophia,and the worship of the male and
female sex organs.

 

[Asimov]

:B-fly: I haven't forgotten you.
One,as you know is Isis. Others are,Mother Earth,and the worship of
all creation rather than the creator. Animal worship,and worshiping
of the planets and the stars.
The worship of a female god sophia,and the worship of the male and
female sex organs.

j


What??? This is so ridiculous, I'd almost think you weren't telling the truth. However, from your previous posts, I have to grudgingly accept that you would be silly enough to make these claims. Evolution recognizes no god. Because it's not a religion.

 

[ThinkerMan]

the worship of ...female sex organs.

I have to admit to that one. :D

But as for the others, no, I do not "worship" any of them.

 

[cubedbee]

This is why I have a problem with you. You are narrowminded and judgemental of your fellow Christians because of your inability to understand science.

:B-fly: I am sorry if I forgot for a moment that you were a
christian,but I have no problem with Scientists who are against
evolution,those saved and not yet saved.
It's not about science,it's about personal views.
I don't feel that I am trying to judge anyone,and
especially not those who share my faith.
We are here to share our opinions and our personal views.

Blue...I worship the one and only true God that you worship. I also believe in evolution. Are you calling me a liar when I say that I only worship one God? Or will you take back your claim that evolutionists are pagans?

 

[Guest]

the worship of ...female sex organs.

I have to admit to that one. :D

But as for the others, no, I do not "worship" any of them.

:B-fly: I am very sorry you do this,but you do have a sense of humor.
I hope you weren't serious,but if you are,I hope you will one day
realize that lust won't bring you joy,but a good woman who is your
wife could!!!

 

[Guest]

This is why I have a problem with you. You are narrowminded and judgemental of your fellow Christians because of your inability to understand science.

:B-fly: I am sorry if I forgot for a moment that you were a
christian,but I have no problem with Scientists who are against
evolution,those saved and not yet saved.
It's not about science,it's about personal views.
I don't feel that I am trying to judge anyone,and
especially not those who share my faith.
We are here to share our opinions and our personal views.

Blue...I worship the one and only true God that you worship. I also believe in evolution. Are you calling me a liar when I say that I only worship one God? Or will you take back your claim that evolutionists are pagans?

:B-fly: From your other posts I do tend to believe you are a christian,but
I cannot take back the claim the evolution was invented by ancient pagans
but that does not mean that I think you are a pagan simply because thats
where it got it's start. I believe you are being honest. You already know
that I do not believe in evolution,and this is something that I thought was
understood between the two of us.
I do however find it difficult to understand how atheists can say they
believe in evolution. Evolution got it's start with pagan religion.
There is a good book that explains it that I just ordered myself,called
"The Long War Against God" by Henry Morris. But there are many other
sources available that anyone can learn about this.

 

[Guest]

:B-fly: I haven't forgotten you.
One,as you know is Isis. Others are,Mother Earth,and the worship of
all creation rather than the creator. Animal worship,and worshiping
of the planets and the stars.
The worship of a female god sophia,and the worship of the male and
female sex organs.

j


What??? This is so ridiculous, I'd almost think you weren't telling the truth. However, from your previous posts, I have to grudgingly accept that you would be silly enough to make these claims. Evolution recognizes no god. Because it's not a religion.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh',now thats the big fat black pot calling the kettle black if I ever
heard it!!!
You claim you are not religious,yet you believe in something that has
it's roots in religion. I would think that an atheist wouldn't go near any
thing that had anything to do with any religious belief.
Also,more proof to the fact that evolution is religious is the fact that it
takes great faith to believe in it!

 

[BenjaminTC]

I do however find it difficult to understand how atheists can say they believe in evolution. Evolution got it's start with pagan religion.

Well, there's a lot you don't understand.

Since you (wrongfully) believe that the theory of evolution is a pagan religion because some ancient people had the idea that our ancestors were different from us, your same logic should bring you to the conclusion that creationism is also a pagan belief. Hinduism is the oldest surviving religion in the world, and it has creationism beliefs outdating your creationism beliefs. Therefore, by your logic, creationism is a pagan belief.

Hopefully after reading this you will find how your logic is flawed.

 

[Guest]

What??? This is so ridiculous, I'd almost think you weren't telling the truth. However, from your previous posts, I have to grudgingly accept that you would be silly enough to make these claims. Evolution recognizes no god. Because it's not a religion.[/quote]

:B-fly: Also,try to remember,it's the church thats growing faster
and stronger,not atheism!
You won't ever see a time where there is no religion on the earth.
The churches are growing stronger and stronger.
There are millions of Catholics in this world and their numbers are
growing everyday. The charasmatics are also very popular,and all the
other religions are also growing.
In fact,there is talk about passing laws to protect religion and religious
freedom. If you cannot tolerate the "religious views" of others you will
be called a hater and someone trying to stand in the way of global
peace and unity. Atheists won't be very popular when this happens.
The Pope won't ever stop being the Pope,and The Roman Catholic
church won't ever step down. People all over the world love the Pope
and the Catholic church. Thats not going to change until The Lord Jesus
returns again,so if you think atheists are going to win this fight,think
it over some more,because thats not about to ever happen.
Common sense can tell you that too.
When all the religions unite together one day soon,you could be
glad to know christians like me,because we won't be accepted
either because we say Jesus is the "ONLY" way to God,and the
One world religion will be saying that there are many ways to God.

 

[Guest]

I do however find it difficult to understand how atheists can say they believe in evolution. Evolution got it's start with pagan religion.

Well, there's a lot you don't understand.

Since you (wrongfully) believe that the theory of evolution is a pagan religion because some ancient people had the idea that our ancestors were different from us, your same logic should bring you to the conclusion that creationism is also a pagan belief. Hinduism is the oldest surviving religion in the world, and it has creationism beliefs outdating your creationism beliefs. Therefore, by your logic, creationism is a pagan belief.

Hopefully after reading this you will find how your logic is flawed.

:B-fly: I get my information from the holy bible.
The pagan roots of evolution are very simular to the beliefs about
evolution today in that they both believe that humans evolved. The
only difference are that they claimed gods/goddesses,while atheists
who believe in evolution leave out the god/goddess part.
some evolutionists worshiped their ancestors,and others worship another
god/goddess they claimed was real.
Most christian evolutionists believe that God took a longer period of time
to create the earth,ect.....
I cannot speak for all of them. I know that I don't agree with the
evolution part of it.

 

[Asimov]

:B-fly: Also,try to remember,it's the church thats growing faster
and stronger,not atheism!
You won't ever see a time where there is no religion on the earth.
The churches are growing stronger and stronger.
There are millions of Catholics in this world and their numbers are
growing everyday. The charasmatics are also very popular,and all the
other religions are also growing.
In fact,there is talk about passing laws to protect religion and religious
freedom. If you cannot tolerate the "religious views" of others you will
be called a hater and someone trying to stand in the way of global
peace and unity. Atheists won't be very popular when this happens.
The Pope won't ever stop being the Pope,and The Roman Catholic
church won't ever step down. People all over the world love the Pope
and the Catholic church. Thats not going to change until The Lord Jesus
returns again,so if you think atheists are going to win this fight,think
it over some more,because thats not about to ever happen.
Common sense can tell you that too.

There are laws to protect religious freedom. Atheists are never popular, because people are intolerant of other peoples religious beliefs, atheism included. Atheism does not mean "intolerant of other peoples religions", it means "no belief in a god".

When all the religions unite together one day soon,you could be
glad to know christians like me,because we won't be accepted
either because we say Jesus is the "ONLY" way to God,and the
One world religion will be saying that there are many ways to God.

Why would I be glad to know a Christian like you? Offering up another one of your little Fundie Christian conspiracy theories?

 

[BenjaminTC]

:B-fly: Also,try to remember,it's the church thats growing faster
and stronger,not atheism!

Not in America. By the end of the year, it is estimated, Protestant Christians will no longer hold the majority of the population. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&editi ... earch+News

You won't ever see a time where there is no religion on the earth.

I'm pretty sure the earth was devoid of religion for billions of years. Religion could be gone once we humans are gone too.

The churches are growing stronger and stronger.

Then why is the Protestant population in America sinking?

There are millions of Catholics in this world and their numbers are
growing everyday.

This reminds me of the movie "Monty Python and the Meaning of LIfe." There's a good skit about Catholics and how they're the "fastest growing religion in the world." Its pretty funny, check it out.

In fact,there is talk about passing laws to protect religion and religious freedom.

Are you refering to the 1st ammendment to the constitution? If so, your source is over 200 years old.

If you cannot tolerate the "religious views" of others you will
be called a hater and someone trying to stand in the way of global
peace and unity.

So, a lot of the Christians on this board will be guilty of that "crime." I see a lot of intollerance towards Muslims here.

The Pope won't ever stop being the Pope,

Until he dies, which shouldn't be too far off. Then they'll just find another one.

and The Roman Catholic church won't ever step down. People all over the world love the Pope and the Catholic church.

A lot of people (me, not included) hate the pope and the Catholic Church. How exactly could a church step down? That doesn't make sense.

Thats not going to change until The Lord Jesus
returns again,so if you think atheists are going to win this fight,think
it over some more,because thats not about to ever happen.

What fight?

Common sense can tell you that too.
When all the religions unite together one day soon,you could be
glad to know christians like me,because we won't be accepted
either because we say Jesus is the "ONLY" way to God,and the
One world religion will be saying that there are many ways to God.

So all religions will unite, and all will accept Jesus. That just sounds like mass conversion into one religion. And at the moment, it doesn't look like they're going in the right direction, at least in America.

 

[Sophistress]

What??? This is so ridiculous, I'd almost think you weren't telling the truth. However, from your previous posts, I have to grudgingly accept that you would be silly enough to make these claims. Evolution recognizes no god. Because it's not a religion.

:B-fly: Also,try to remember,it's the church thats growing faster
and stronger,not atheism!
You won't ever see a time where there is no religion on the earth.
The churches are growing stronger and stronger.
There are millions of Catholics in this world and their numbers are
growing everyday. The charasmatics are also very popular,and all the
other religions are also growing.
In fact,there is talk about passing laws to protect religion and religious
freedom. If you cannot tolerate the "religious views" of others you will
be called a hater and someone trying to stand in the way of global
peace and unity. Atheists won't be very popular when this happens.
The Pope won't ever stop being the Pope,and The Roman Catholic
church won't ever step down. People all over the world love the Pope
and the Catholic church. Thats not going to change until The Lord Jesus
returns again,so if you think atheists are going to win this fight,think
it over some more,because thats not about to ever happen.
Common sense can tell you that too.
When all the religions unite together one day soon,you could be
glad to know christians like me,because we won't be accepted
either because we say Jesus is the "ONLY" way to God,and the
One world religion will be saying that there are many ways to God.

Oh dear. You begin by implying that atheists are in some way trying to 'fight' to take over the world and abolish religion, the Catholic Church and the Pope. Then by the end you have managed to turn the tables and have basically admitted that Christians wish to do similar things in regards to all other religions. You say 'when all religions unite together' which basically implies that Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc.. are all going to realise they're horribly wrong and accept the Christian myth over their own. Is this what you want to happen? Because this is even more unrealistic than you suggesting atheists are shrinking in numbers and will eventually die out. You manage to make a hollow mockery out of yourself.

Douglas Adams once wrote:
'Religion is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, "This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!" This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was made to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he dissapears catches him rather by suprise.'

 

[Guest]

I do however find it difficult to understand how atheists can say they believe in evolution. Evolution got it's start with pagan religion.

Well, there's a lot you don't understand.

Since you (wrongfully) believe that the theory of evolution is a pagan religion because some ancient people had the idea that our ancestors were different from us, your same logic should bring you to the conclusion that creationism is also a pagan belief. Hinduism is the oldest surviving religion in the world, and it has creationism beliefs outdating your creationism beliefs. Therefore, by your logic, creationism is a pagan belief.

Hopefully after reading this you will find how your logic is flawed.

:B-fly: I believe thats where evolution was created,in a pagan religion,
but some people know that while others do not. I didn't say that every
one who believes in evolution does everything connected to the pagan
roots of it. I am making the point that,if you are an atheist,why would
you have any belief that was from a religious group,and evolutiion has
been a part of many religions,so why would they do it? Can they take
the parts they want and leave out the rest?
I thought Atheists wanted to be free thinkers,and not follow any kind
of religious views at all. Another shocker is that many of them know
Darwin was a christian! What should that tell everyone?

 

[Guest]

What??? This is so ridiculous, I'd almost think you weren't telling the truth. However, from your previous posts, I have to grudgingly accept that you would be silly enough to make these claims. Evolution recognizes no god. Because it's not a religion.

:B-fly: Also,try to remember,it's the church thats growing faster
and stronger,not atheism!
You won't ever see a time where there is no religion on the earth.
The churches are growing stronger and stronger.
There are millions of Catholics in this world and their numbers are
growing everyday. The charasmatics are also very popular,and all the
other religions are also growing.
In fact,there is talk about passing laws to protect religion and religious
freedom. If you cannot tolerate the "religious views" of others you will
be called a hater and someone trying to stand in the way of global
peace and unity. Atheists won't be very popular when this happens.
The Pope won't ever stop being the Pope,and The Roman Catholic
church won't ever step down. People all over the world love the Pope
and the Catholic church. Thats not going to change until The Lord Jesus
returns again,so if you think atheists are going to win this fight,think
it over some more,because thats not about to ever happen.
Common sense can tell you that too.
When all the religions unite together one day soon,you could be
glad to know christians like me,because we won't be accepted
either because we say Jesus is the "ONLY" way to God,and the
One world religion will be saying that there are many ways to God.

Oh dear. You begin by implying that atheists are in some way trying to 'fight' to take over the world and abolish religion, the Catholic Church and the Pope. Then by the end you have managed to turn the tables and have basically admitted that Christians wish to do similar things in regards to all other religions. You say 'when all religions unite together' which basically implies that Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc.. are all going to realise they're horribly wrong and accept the Christian myth over their own. Is this what you want to happen? Because this is even more unrealistic than you suggesting atheists are shrinking in numbers and will eventually die out. You manage to make a hollow mockery out of yourself.

:Fade-color You are wrong Heathen, I am wondering what atheists hope
to gain,and what is it they believe they will gain in the future.
The world is not ever going to be in their favor because you can tell
that religions are growing fast and they are growing together.
where is the atheist going to fit in?
My hope is that they won't die and that they won't join the one world
religious system,but rather choose Jesus Christ.
If they can boldly say they don't believe in God or any gods/goddesses
as they have,then they could be great warriors for Christ Jesus if they
ever got saved. My hope is that they will learn the truth about God and
his son,and not belong to the Global religion when the New World
order takes control. Whats wrong with that?

 

[Guest]

[Oh dear. You begin by implying that atheists are in some way trying to 'fight' to take over the world and abolish religion, the Catholic Church and the Pope. Then by the end you have managed to turn the tables and have basically admitted that Christians wish to do similar things in regards to all other religions. You say 'when all religions unite together' which basically implies that Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc.. are all going to realise they're horribly wrong and accept the Christian myth over their own. Is this what you want to happen? Because this is even more unrealistic than you suggesting atheists are shrinking in numbers and will eventually die out. You manage to make a hollow mockery out of yourself.

:B-fly: You really don't have a grasp on whats going on,do you?
People are not going to change their religions,they are just going to
unite together as one gruop with several religions and many ways to
worship God. They are going to unite together and claim that there
are many ways to God,not just one way.
They will do this for Global peace.

 

[Sophistress]

You talk about atheists as if they are some sort of political group, blueeyeliner. First you need to realise that atheists, just like scientists, do not have any special book, with an agenda. Grasped that? Good.

The world is not ever going to be in their favor because you can tell
that religions are growing fast and they are growing together.

Well, somebody already disputed that religion is growing in America, and to say that religions are growing together is just plain naive. If that's the case then explain Israel and Palestine to me, explain the huge tensions between the Islamic East and the Christian West. Also explain to me why there are so many sects of Christianity, and why the amount of different sects is increasing.

You really don't have a grasp on whats going on,do you?

That's funny coming from you.

They are going to unite together and claim that there
are many ways to God,not just one way.
They will do this for Global peace.

Global peace!? Why on Earth would anyone want that!? :o In all seriousness, I really wish that were the case, but unfortunately, I doubt it.