God's Great Free Gift of Salvation for Everyone

[gordon777]

"For where there is no law there is no sin" Romans 4:15. They cannot sin because they are not under the law or subject to it.

Romans 4 only speaks of being heirs, and how they which are of the law ( Judaism) are in wrath, because they are transgressing the law of God. ( remember by breaking/transgressing Gods law they are blaspheming God.)



Romans 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?


Romans 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.


That was Romans 2, then Romans 4, now look at Romans 6.

Our bodies are to be yielded as those who are alive form the dead. ( believing being risen with Christ) as instruments of righteousness unto God. Then sin has no dominion over us, because we are not under the law ( of transgressing/breaking Gods law, then sin, then death, but we are under grace)

Shall we commit sin ? God forbid, we are the servants of who we yield ourselves to obey, of the same disobedience ( of Judaism in breaking the law of God) or of obedience unto righteousness ( under the law to Christ through grace)

Now they obey from the heart ( the law written in the heart through the Spirit. Hebrews 8:10/ 10:16.) the form of doctrine ( the Gospel of Christ) which was delivered to us, as Christ set us free to be servants of righteousness ( set free from transgression to be keepers of the law of Christ from the heart.)





Romans 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.




All those who are carnally minded, ( Judaism in the law) had and have death, (they were under carnal ordinances and after the law of a carnal commandment. Hebrews 7:16/ 9:10. )

They were never subject to the law of God, because that carnal mind is not spiritual, and is then enmity against God.) they are and were, in the flesh, and did not please God, they did what He hates. )

If we are in the Spirit, ( to now please God unlike Israel transgressing against God. 2 Timothy 2:4.) our body is dead because of sin ( which Judaism does in the law they break) and the Spirit is life because of righteousness ( we now do and serve.) What law is abolished was what was contained in ordinances.



Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Hebrews 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Hebrews 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.




Now we are not without law ( that is silly) we are under the law to Christ. ( written in the heart now)



1 Corinthians 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.




The law was added because of the transgressions of all people.

When faith came, we are no longer under that law ( of ordinances and made under a carnal law) now we are no longer under a school master ( the law) as all are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ, and as many of us as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ( charity the bond of perfectness and bowels of mercies.)



Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.



Galatians 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

All that have faith in Christ and his Gospel are spiritually "In Christ". God sees them only "In Christ". As far as God is concerned, they have fulfilled the law and all of their sins have been atoned for. They are spiritually in Christ and Christ is in heaven. God sees ALL THINGS in Jesus Christ.

Christ did all the Father said, always doing what pleases Him, as we do the same..


John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Romans 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

1 Thessalonians 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

A word about James. James was a Judaizer. A Judaizer believes in Jesus, but also believes that you must keep the law of Moses. James thought that Gentle believers should be circumcised, Acts 15:1-21. Peter and Barnabus saw it differently. The book of James was directed to law keeping Jews, James 1:1.

What James shares about Abraham is accurate, Abraham did obey God, to make faith perfect.

If you disagree with that, please say so

 

[gordon777]

You guys do realise, you show you know nothing whatsoever ?

 

[Robert Pate]

Romans 4 only speaks of being heirs, and how they which are of the law ( Judaism) are in wrath, because they are transgressing the law of God. ( remember by breaking/transgressing Gods law they are blaspheming God.)



Romans 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?


Romans 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.


That was Romans 2, then Romans 4, now look at Romans 6.

Our bodies are to be yielded as those who are alive form the dead. ( believing being risen with Christ) as instruments of righteousness unto God. Then sin has no dominion over us, because we are not under the law ( of transgressing/breaking Gods law, then sin, then death, but we are under grace)

Shall we commit sin ? God forbid, we are the servants of who we yield ourselves to obey, of the same disobedience ( of Judaism in breaking the law of God) or of obedience unto righteousness ( under the law to Christ through grace)

Now they obey from the heart ( the law written in the heart through the Spirit. Hebrews 8:10/ 10:16.) the form of doctrine ( the Gospel of Christ) which was delivered to us, as Christ set us free to be servants of righteousness ( set free from transgression to be keepers of the law of Christ from the heart.)





Romans 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.




All those who are carnally minded, ( Judaism in the law) had and have death, (they were under carnal ordinances and after the law of a carnal commandment. Hebrews 7:16/ 9:10. )

They were never subject to the law of God, because that carnal mind is not spiritual, and is then enmity against God.) they are and were, in the flesh, and did not please God, they did what He hates. )

If we are in the Spirit, ( to now please God unlike Israel transgressing against God. 2 Timothy 2:4.) our body is dead because of sin ( which Judaism does in the law they break) and the Spirit is life because of righteousness ( we now do and serve.) What law is abolished was what was contained in ordinances.



Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Hebrews 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Hebrews 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.




Now we are not without law ( that is silly) we are under the law to Christ. ( written in the heart now)



1 Corinthians 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.




The law was added because of the transgressions of all people.

When faith came, we are no longer under that law ( of ordinances and made under a carnal law) now we are no longer under a school master ( the law) as all are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ, and as many of us as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ( charity the bond of perfectness and bowels of mercies.)



Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.



Galatians 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.







Christ did all the Father said, always doing what pleases Him, as we do the same..


John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Romans 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

1 Thessalonians 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.





What James shares about Abraham is accurate, Abraham did obey God, to make faith perfect.

If you disagree with that, please say so

Paul said, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

This means that no one will be saved or justified by what they do or by what they have become.

We are saved and justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus. It is our faith that makes what Jesus has done ours.

Abraham was a sinner saved by the grace of God.

 

[gordon777]

Paul said, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

This means that no one will be saved or justified by what they do or by what they have become.

We are saved and justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus. It is our faith that makes what Jesus has done ours.

Abraham was a sinner saved by the grace of God.

When all are under sin, they are not righteous, they do not understand, nor seek God, they are unprofitable, they don't do good.


Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.



Does scripture show that we remain that way. ( none righteous?)

No, it says, when we know that Jesus Christ is righteous, we are born of God and do righteousness.

We are told that he that does righteousness( born of God to do righteousness) is righteous, even as He ( Christ) is righteous)


1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.





Do we continue to be none understanding ?


No, we receive the Spirit of God to know the things given to us freely of God, as the Son of God came and gave us an understanding to know Him ( know His ways and do them)





1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.




Do we remain unprofitable and not doing good ?



Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.





Abraham obeyed God, it is faith:



Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

 

[gordon777]

Robert Pate, you are rebuked by the Word of God, soon your few words will become fewer.

 

[GodsGrace]

Salvation has always been by grace through faith, even in the Old Testament era. The Old Testament saints were saved and justified by faith in God's promise of a savior. "Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness" Romans 4:3.

The Pharisees thought that salvation was by keeping the Mosiac law. They said that the law was the way, the truth and the life and was the light that enlightened every man. John took what the Pharisees said about the law and applied it to Jesus, John 14:6. The Pharisees made the law and their religion their Jesus. How many are guilty of doing the same thing?

Some believe that salvation has only been provided for "Some certain persons". The Bible contradicts that teaching. The Bible plainly says, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16. If God loves the world (Everyone) then why would he not provide salvation for everyone? There are several scriptures that tell us Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2, is just one of them.

Paul wrote, "For by grace (God's goodness) are you saved through faith; and not that of yourselves: it is the gift of God" Ephesians 2:8. A gift cannot be earned or deserved otherwise it would not be a free gift, a free gift can only be received. This principal is taught in all of life. God provides and we receive. Look at all of the abundance of material things that God has provided for us in life that we receive.

Many have trouble receiving free gifts, even the free gift of salvation. I have known of some people that were destitute and when they were offered help refused it because of pride. They said, "We don't need your help, we earn everything that we get". Unfortunately, they were not earning enough to feed and clothe their children. How many will be lost because they cannot receive God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided by Jesus Christ?

Peter did not want Jesus to wash his feet.
Pride.
One of the two traits that make us sin the most: Pride and Egoism

In the end Peter allowed it.
Yes, you're right.
Some do not want a gift....
and some state that the free gift is not for all...
but only for a chosen few.

 

[GodsGrace]

This may sound bizarre to you, but Christians cannot sin. They cannot sin because they are not under the law or subject to it. "For where there is no law there is no sin" Romans 4:15. I am sure that I will get a lot of flak on that one. All that have faith in Christ and his Gospel are spiritually "In Christ". God sees them only "In Christ". As far as God is concerned, they have fulfilled the law and all of their sins have been atoned for. They are spiritually in Christ and Christ is in heaven. God sees ALL THINGS in Jesus Christ.

A word about James. James was a Judaizer. A Judaizer believes in Jesus, but also believes that you must keep the law of Moses. James thought that Gentle believers should be circumcised, Acts 15:1-21. Peter and Barnabus saw it differently. The book of James was directed to law keeping Jews, James 1:1.

If Christians cannot sin, why did Jesus make provision for their sins?
He authorized the Apostles to forgive and it would be forgiven in heaven,
to retain and it would be retained in heaven.
What could this possibly mean except that we can still sin?

BTW, We are under the law.
The Laws Jesus left us with.
A law is just a command by a high authority.
Did Jesus leave us no commands?

 

[Robert Pate]

If Christians cannot sin, why did Jesus make provision for their sins?
He authorized the Apostles to forgive and it would be forgiven in heaven,
to retain and it would be retained in heaven.
What could this possibly mean except that we can still sin?

BTW, We are under the law.
The Laws Jesus left us with.
A law is just a command by a high authority.
Did Jesus leave us no commands?

If you are going to believe the Bible you will have to believe that the law and the commandments have been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. The law is the nature and character of God. Jesus was God's law incarnate in human flesh, Romans 3:21. Under the New Covenant, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17. The Pharisees made the law their Jesus. Paul said, "By the deeds of the law (what we do) no flesh will be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin" Romans 3:20. Christians are not law loving Pharisees, Christians are led by the Holy Spirit and not the law.

 

[Robert Pate]

Peter did not want Jesus to wash his feet.
Pride.
One of the two traits that make us sin the most: Pride and Egoism

In the end Peter allowed it.
Yes, you're right.
Some do not want a gift....
and some state that the free gift is not for all...
but only for a chosen few.

Peter came to the realization that it was not just his feet that were dirty but that his whole being was corrupt.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Yes, Faith in Jesus and his Gospel will bring persecution. In spite of all of the persecution that Paul suffered he said that it counted for nothing, Philippians 3:8. The benefits far outweigh the persecutions.

I agree and that’s the point. It’s not free. There is a price.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

If you are going to believe the Bible you will have to believe that the law and the commandments have been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. The law is the nature and character of God. Jesus was God's law incarnate in human flesh, Romans 3:21. Under the New Covenant, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17. The Pharisees made the law their Jesus. Paul said, "By the deeds of the law (what we do) no flesh will be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin" Romans 3:20. Christians are not law loving Pharisees, Christians are led by the Holy Spirit and not the law.

That’s the theory. The truth is quite different, however.

 

[Edward]

If salvation is free and costs a man nothing at all, just cost Jesus his life, why did Jesus say the following:

Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. Mark 8:34

See, it's right there. If you want to be my disciple. That's more than a follower, and there's a price to pay for it. Just ask the disciples!

There's like, levels of relatonship with the Lord. It goes, Servant, Friend, Son, Bride. Now, I'm not sure where Disciple fits in there between which two, but it has a price.

If you want to climb the Mountain of God, know that the trail is narrow and the sides are steep. It's very awesome if you have your mountain feet on and can make progress. Each time you make the ridge there is a certain sense of accomplishment and you will be able to see more than you ever have before. What views! The higher level only bring evenmore illumination and you will see like never before. But there's a catch...

While you're admiring the view and feeling so proud to be so high, you stumble. And when you stumble on God's mountain and fall, it is from a greater height than before, and hurts more. Not only do I ache, but I have to climb that portion again!

The mountain of God is way bigger than Mt Everest. Scripture says King David basically tripped his way up the mountain! Each time he stumbled, it hurt a lot but he stood up and dusted himself off, and went to the Lord in repentance (Psalm 51).

And David is said to be a man after God's own heart. But if you are not a good mountain climber then the only thing left to you is to pray to God for strength and climb the mountain anyway. Because there is life on the mountain of God, just watch your step. (He told me when to rest, I kid you not! but that's another thread.

I have heard that sometimes trains go up the mountain also. And you can get onto it if it is not moving too fast. I'm going to get on and enjoy the ride if I can! If there is no train, then I'll walk. I met Jesus on the trail. All I did was call out to Him one time and there He was. (I didn't see Him). But He caught me when I was about to die. I best stop I think.

 

[Edward]

I agree and that’s the point. It’s not free. There is a price.

So what though?! What could be stupider than to not invest oneslf in the Lord? So it will be hard. But the trials teach you and help you along your way of development in Christ.

Evolve spiritually. The Lord loves Babes in Christ, but He desires mature christians who are spiritually awake.

 

[Edward]

We knew before we came to earth that earth is the valley of tears and would not be easy. So chin up, Sister! Hang in there and endure as long as you can and do not become discouraged. Endure for just a short season longer.

We are reassured in that truth, in our weakness is His strength. So run to Him fast when you need to! And He will take over and strengthen you.

 

[GodsGrace]

Peter came to the realization that it was not just his feet that were dirty but that his whole being was corrupt.

I'm not sure that's what the scripture means...

John 13:6-10
6When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, “Lord, are you going to wash my feet?”
7Jesus replied, “You don’t understand now what I am doing, but someday you will.”
8“No,” Peter protested, “you will never ever wash my feet!”
Jesus replied, “Unless I wash you, you won’t belong to me.”
9Simon Peter exclaimed, “Then wash my hands and head as well, Lord, not just my feet!”
10Jesus replied, “A person who has bathed all over does not need to wash, except for the feet,c to be entirely clean. And you disciples are clean,

How about this?:

It's said that Jesus meant to show them that they would have to help each other and take care of each other as He had taken care of them for the years of His ministry.

Also, it seems that Peter had some difficulty accepting Jesus' love.
It's not easy to have your feet washed by someone - it could even be embarrasing.

Jesus told Peter that he could not belong to Him unless He washed Peter.
Well then wash me all, exclaimed Peter.

But Jesus told Peter that he had already been washed...had been cleansed,
but only the feet needed washing.

Feet got dirty walking in Israel...men wore sandals and the streets were not paved and dust got all over everything.
The feet could represent the sins we commit after we have come to know Jesus.
They must be washed away, just like our previous sins were upon justification.

 

[Hopeful]

This may sound bizarre to you, but Christians cannot sin.

Not at all bizarre.
Thanks be to God for the gifts of repentance from sin, death and burial with Christ wherein we are reborn from God's seed, and the gift of the Holy Ghost.

They cannot sin because they are not under the law or subject to it. "For where there is no law there is no sin" Romans 4:15. I am sure that I will get a lot of flak on that one. All that have faith in Christ and his Gospel are spiritually "In Christ". God sees them only "In Christ". As far as God is concerned, they have fulfilled the law and all of their sins have been atoned for. They are spiritually in Christ and Christ is in heaven. God sees ALL THINGS in Jesus Christ.

And, there is no sin in Christ, so those in Him can't have any sin either !

A word about James. James was a Judaizer. A Judaizer believes in Jesus, but also believes that you must keep the law of Moses. James thought that Gentle believers should be circumcised, Acts 15:1-21. Peter and Barnabus saw it differently. The book of James was directed to law keeping Jews, James 1:1.

I can't agree with that about James.
At the end of the Acts 15 "council" he laid out what rules Gentile believers must adhere to.
There was no mention of circumcision.

 

[Hopeful]

For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression. That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all people and not only to those who have the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham.
(Rom 4:15-16)

Explanation:
Because law produces God's wrath and not His justification, God determined that He would save men by grace through faith. He would give eternal life as a free, undeserved gift to ungodly sinners who receive it by a simple act of faith.

In this way the promise of life is sure to all the seed. We should mention two words here—sure and all. First, God wants the promise to be sure. If justification depended on man's law-works, he could never be sure because he could not know if he had done enough good works or the right kind. No one who seeks to earn salvation enjoys full assurance. But when salvation is presented as a gift to be received by believing, then a man can be sure that he is saved on the authority of the word of God.

Second, God wants the promise of salvation to be sure to everyone, not just to the Jews, to whom the law was given, but also to all Gentiles who put their trust in the Lord in the same way that Abraham did.
.

Will a "believer" continue to commit sin?

 

[Hopeful]

If Christians cannot sin, why did Jesus make provision for their sins?
He authorized the Apostles to forgive and it would be forgiven in heaven,
to retain and it would be retained in heaven.
What could this possibly mean except that we can still sin?

Really want to know?

 

[Cooper]

Will a "believer" continue to commit sin?

Speaking for myself I have to say yes, but not the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. I would be sinning if I said no I never sin. please forgive me Lord.
.

 

[Robert Pate]

When all are under sin, they are not righteous, they do not understand, nor seek God, they are unprofitable, they don't do good.


Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.



Does scripture show that we remain that way. ( none righteous?)

No, it says, when we know that Jesus Christ is righteous, we are born of God and do righteousness.

We are told that he that does righteousness( born of God to do righteousness) is righteous, even as He ( Christ) is righteous)


1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.





Do we continue to be none understanding ?


No, we receive the Spirit of God to know the things given to us freely of God, as the Son of God came and gave us an understanding to know Him ( know His ways and do them)





1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.




Do we remain unprofitable and not doing good ?



Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.





Abraham obeyed God, it is faith:



Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

There are two kinds of righteousness. There is the righteousness of man and then there is the righteousness of God. No one possess the righteousness of God simply because, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10. All have been born after Adam and have a fallen nature, Romans 5:12.