Gospel Preached to all the World?

[whirlwind]

="researcher]
Just watch out for the "Obamanation." :o ;) ;) :P

My son-in-law and I discussed B. Hussein Obama this morning. I received an e-mail about BHO making the statement that he only met Blagovich once and it was a brief meeting. Then several photos were shown of him with Blago. They were taken many different times in many different places.


LIAR!

 

[researcher]

="researcher]
Just watch out for the "Obamanation." :o ;) ;) :P

My son-in-law and I discussed B. Hussein Obama this morning. I received an e-mail about BHO making the statement that he only met Blagovich once and it was a brief meeting. Then several photos were shown of him with Blago. They were taken many different times in many different places.


LIAR!

Lol. ;) :D

Watch out for Barrack Hussein Osama (Obama)! <_<

 

[Matthew24:34]

And this?

Rom 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ,
Rom 1:7 to all that are in Rome, beloved of God,
Rom 13:11 And this, knowing the season, that already it is time for you to awake out of sleep:
for now is salvation nearer to us than when we first believed.

That is a very strange one to me. It could mean...any of us could die at any moment so "now is salvation nearer to us than we first believed," or it is nearer than we previously thought it was. If the second choice is correct then I would ask...why? What happened to make Paul teach that? What had changed? Or is our salvation nearer than when we first "believed" in Him?


I just thought....what is salvation? Jesus is our salvation. When we "awake out of sleep," when our eyes and ears are opened by the Holy Spirit, when our old man dies...that is the moment of our salvation, the baptism of fire. Is that what Paul was teaching? Our salvation is near, waiting for us to reach that place, it is there waiting. To believe in Him, "when we first believed," is not all that is required for....

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Greetings, Whirlwind: I know this probably will not help you since you do not heed audience relevance in passages such as Luke 21, but Jesus clearly said to those disciples standing right there with Him that THEY were to look up and lift up THEIR heads because THEIR SALVATION drew NEAR!

Paul made it clear in Romans 13 that the time for that salvation was near to THEM--the night was far spent and the day was AT HAND! What salvation? Paul taught about it in 1 Corinthians 15--they were about to be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye; corruption was about to put on incorruption; mortality was about to put on immortality. THEY were about to be caught up with the dead in Christ to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thes. 4). THEY were about to be received by Christ as He had promised them (John 14--He went to prepare a place for THEM and would come back to THEM to receive THEM unto Himself)! THEY were about to be avenged and given rest. Second Thessalonians makes it clear that those very flesh-and-blood Thessalonians, and be extension, all saints of that day, were to be avenged when the Lord was revealed from heaven! Those very ones of their day who troubled THEM were to receive the same trouble--when the Lord was revealed from heaven!

THEY were to look up! THEY were to lift up THEIR heads because THEIR salvation/redemption drew NEAR! When THEY saw all the things happening of which Jesus had spoken to THEM, THEY were to know that the Kingdom of God was NEAR! ASSUREDLY, I SAY TO YOU, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS GENERATION WILL BY NO MEANS PASS AWAY TILL ALL THINGS TAKE PLACE!

Those all things very much included the preaching of the Gospel to all the world! Paul's words in Colossians 1 could not be more plain.

Sincerely, Matthew24:34

 

[whirlwind]

I don't think it does. ;) I believed what you believe for 17 years and I was perfectly OK. LOL. ;) :D ;) :D

Just watch out for the "Obamanation." :o ;) ;) :P

The problem with it being something we have believed or continue to believe isn't the consideration. It is what will we believe when the time of the end is here? Even though you see it as past which is truly :crazy to me, think if you just might be wrong. Then...will it have any influence on salvation? I don't know.

Mark 13:32-33 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

13:34-35 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."


And...please notice all preterist out there , He said, I SAY UNTO ALL. It was not written to just those standing before Him but to us that shall stand before Him.

 

[researcher]

I don't think it does. ;) I believed what you believe for 17 years and I was perfectly OK. LOL. ;) :D ;) :D

Just watch out for the "Obamanation." :o ;) ;) :P

The problem with it being something we have believed or continue to believe isn't the consideration. It is what will we believe when the time of the end is here? Even though you see it as past which is truly :crazy to me, think if you just might be wrong. Then...will it have any influence on salvation? I don't know.

Mark 13:32-33 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

13:34-35 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."


And...please notice all preterist out there , He said, I SAY UNTO ALL. It was not written to just those standing before Him but to us that shall stand before Him.

Then...will it have any influence on salvation?

:P I don't think so. :P The HS told me to tell a person I work with something the other day.
He's there, not going anywhere. He will literally say something, or show people what is up and what to be careful about. Nothing to worry about imo. ;)

And...please notice all preterist out there , He said, I SAY UNTO ALL. It was not written to just those standing before Him but to us that shall stand before Him

There were many disciples (hundreds at least - 1Co 15:6). Some of the 12 had asked him privately, but, he was always surrounded by throngs of disciples and people. Obviously he was speaking to everyone there when he said "watch." Many of them would be alive and in Israel to see the Roman armies surround Jerusalem. Makes sense he told all of them standing there. He was warning them about what was right around the corner (figuratively (40 years). ;) :D

 

[Matthew24:34]

I don't think it does. ;) I believed what you believe for 17 years and I was perfectly OK. LOL. ;) :D ;) :D

Just watch out for the "Obamanation." :o ;) ;) :P

The problem with it being something we have believed or continue to believe isn't the consideration. It is what will we believe when the time of the end is here? Even though you see it as past which is truly :crazy to me, think if you just might be wrong. Then...will it have any influence on salvation? I don't know.

Mark 13:32-33 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

13:34-35 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."


And...please notice all preterist out there , He said, I SAY UNTO ALL. It was not written to just those standing before Him but to us that shall stand before Him.

Please notice all futurists--in the context the ALL means those of that generation. Clearly, Jesus is first of all saying it to those disciples standing right there with Him. By saying ALL, He is intending all of those of the "this generation" who were to see ALL these things!!!! You are so intent on having a part in everything, Whirlwind, that you are grasping at straws. The meaning of Jesus' words is clear--"what I say to you disciples standing right here with Me now, I say to your brethren of this generation--All of you of this generation "WATCH." That is the CONTEXT! "Behold, I am coming SOON!"

Matthew24:34

 

[whirlwind]

I don't think it does. ;) I believed what you believe for 17 years and I was perfectly OK. LOL. ;) :D ;) :D

Just watch out for the "Obamanation." :o ;) ;) :P

The problem with it being something we have believed or continue to believe isn't the consideration. It is what will we believe when the time of the end is here? Even though you see it as past which is truly :crazy to me, think if you just might be wrong. Then...will it have any influence on salvation? I don't know.

Mark 13:32-33 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

13:34-35 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."


And...please notice all preterist out there , He said, I SAY UNTO ALL. It was not written to just those standing before Him but to us that shall stand before Him.

Please notice all futurists--in the context the ALL means those of that generation. Clearly, Jesus is first of all saying it to those disciples standing right there with Him. By saying ALL, He is intending all of those of the "this generation" who were to see ALL these things!!!! You are so intent on having a part in everything, Whirlwind, that you are grasping at straws. The meaning of Jesus' words is clear--"what I say to you disciples standing right here with Me now, I say to your brethren of this generation--All of you of this generation "WATCH." That is the CONTEXT! "Behold, I am coming SOON!"

Matthew24:34

Psalms 37:1-2 Fret not thyself because of evildoers, Neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity. For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, And wither as the green herb.

37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be.

The evildoers, the workers of iniquity and the wicked are still with us even though it was written long, long ago that "in a little while," and "shall soon be cut down." So, God's time cannot be reckoned as our time. Please consider that when Christ said...."I am coming SOON." Also consider that as David wrote the above Psalms to all of us....so are the Words of Christ for...all of us.

 

[Elijah674]

Was the Gospel Preached to all the world, to all nations, to every creature under heaven, way back in the 1st century?

Scripture tells us it indeed was:

Colossians 1:5-6 (NKJV) because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;

Colossians 1:23 (NKJV) if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.

Romans 1:8 (NKJV) First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

Romans 16:25-26 (NKJV) Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began 26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith;

If we are to Believe St Paul, writing under he inspiration of the holy Spirit, we must assert that the Gospel was preached to all the world by the late 60's AD

Surely the Eternal Gospel went into ALL THE WORLD! And Matt. 24:14?? The Word that is Christ told us of His second at least REQUIREMENT to be met before one has the Truth DOCUMENTED! Take note:


Just a thought: Elijah here.
If one cannot follow God's quoted Truth of Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 as the Word of God, stated CLEARLY, and in a way that even most of Heb. 5's 'milkfed' ones can even get something from. I suggest that you shy away from Ph.D'ism, the arm of flesh & the Greek, Latin, & Heb., & stick with just one King James translation itself. The BOTTOM line is, is that ALL of these others ways of finding 'some' truth, are the real reasons that have caused the BIGGEST MESS OF DIS/UNITY that the GOSPEL ALONE prophesied of! See Rev. 17:5

And I realize that there are & were some who could not understand Paul's wording of inspiration & that it is scripture that also says that.... 'which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction'. 2 Peter 3:14-17 in part.

Forum: Lets start with Eccl. 3:14.
"I know that, WHATSOEVER GOD DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER: NOTHING CAN BE PUT TO IT, NOR ANY THING TAKEN FROM IT: ..." (in part)
Actually it is just about a repeat even in Wording, as seen in Rev.'s closing verses!
The verses are a WARNING about adding to or removing any part of the Word of God! And the BOTTOM line is that ones name would be removed from the Book of Life. Now for the rest of the 14th verse. "... THAT MEN SHOULD FEAR BEFORE HIM."

For one to say that the Eccl. verses do not mean what they say, is doing just that!

Now look at the verse following verse 14. Verse 15 says.. "THAT WHICH HAS BEEN IS NOW; AND THAT WHICH IS TO BE HAS ALREADY BEEN; AND GOD REQUIRETH THAT WHICH IS PAST." GOD'S WORD says that it is so!

Take note: If it is not to be, God say that it will not be. Example: 'Sin will not arise a second time' Nah. 1:9. And we all know about the world flood not happening a second time? So, there are so very few times that history does not repeat, and that God does the easy thing for [us] by pointing out the lesser number. (by the way, Rev. is full of O.T. Sanctuary! see Ps. 77:13)

If anyone would BELIEVE THE *GODHEAD'S INSPIRED WORD (ALL OF IT! See 2 Tim. 3:16 & Matt. 4:4) they would find Few reasons for mixed up doctrinal folds.
But the bottom line is that even the Virgin Fold is going after the fate of Virgin Israel of old!! (same history) They are once again Christ/less. See Rev. 3:9 or Rev. 17:5! And the nasty repeat for them is VERIFIED in Eze. 9.
Try reading Rev. 12:17 S-L-O-W-L-E-Y! And in Christ's day, who do you think took over the 'DESOLATE' fold that Christ was put out of? It was Christ that stated that 'Your house (fold) is left unto you DESOLATE'. Matt. 23:38.

So, this is what will be the final fate of Spiritual Virgin Israel! (the 666 thing'y is for the world's testing) See 1 Peter 4:17 FOR WHO IS JUDGED FIRST.

Back to Chapter 1:9-10 of Eccl. Lets check to 'see' (if we can) if God made a mistake? (man's foolish 'poetry' remark)

We do remember that we were told that 'IT SHALL BE FOR EVER and that NOTHING CAN BE PUT TO IT NOR ANYTHING TAKEN FROM IT.' (chapter 3:14-15)

"THE THING THAT HATH BEEN IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE; AND THAT WHICH IS DONE IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE DONE: AND THERE IS (NOTHING) *NO NEW THING UNDER THE SUN. v.9
IS THERE [*ANY THING] WHERE OF IT MAY BE SAID, SEE, THIS IS NEW? [IT HATH BEEN ALREADY OF OLD TIME, WHICH WAS BEFORE US.]" v.10

Notice that after the GodHead's question, that Their Inspiration came quickly before 'ignorant' man could botch up the question!! But what does one hear today?? Should we do the 'foolish' (Matt. 25) thing and read & study the 'earthly' educated ones reams & reams of commentaries, with hardly any two alike?? (false fold/wise at least)

Lets just add another 'documented' fact here with these two verses.
In Gen. 41:32 the Lord gave Pharaoh a vision 'TWICE'. (remember now, that we see TWICE at least in the Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 that history is to be repeated) Also note that God has 'inspired' this thought ... "And for that the dream was [doubled] unto Pharaoh [twice]; it is [because the thing is established by God], and God will shortly bring it to pass.

So bottom line: If you want to know Truth, find it in the past history for the furture history to be! All the way from the 666 test to where God 'tested' His own in the past before they were to enter the land of their Canaan. And the crucifixion of Christ a second time? See Heb. 6:6!

Just one more thought & this is about E.G.W. & Adventism, this also in 1844 there/bouts, required great testing! Think of what is not said about the ones in Paul's Testimony & the ones who thought that Christ was to come after ONLY THE FIRST TIME of Matt. 24:14??

 

[Cornelius]

Ezekiel 29:21 In that day will I cause the horn of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."


"In that day" is when the king of Babylon, (historically king Nebuchadrezzar but in the future sense it is Satan himself), will arrive for his great tribulation, his hour of temptation. DECEPTION, DECEPTION, DECEPTION, for he will be pretending to be Christ just as his followers now pretend to be Christian. Perhaps they even believe they are Christians. They are the "many antichrists/antichristians" running around spreading lies. Will we believe them/him? God tells us many will. As...they are now.

However, "in that day," when folks are falling all over themselves to worship the fake because they aren't being taught that the fake comes first.....God will "cause the horn of the house of Israel to bud forth." When does this "budding" first begin? While we are in the wilderness and that is, I believe, NOW. The witnesses are teaching God's children as the Holy Spirit speaks through them.

Biblically, "horn" is symbolic of power. The power of the house of Israel (CHRISTIANS!) will "bud forth." The horn/power is....God's very elect, His "man child" of end times.....the two witnesses, of whom there are many. Notice the rod of power isn't fully developed but they/we are "budding." We are getting stronger as His Spirit is teaching us, opening new revelations, preparing us for that day. Already we witness for Him as the time draws nearer but soon......


Mark 13:9-13 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations. But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not yet that speak, but the Holy Ghost. Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


The gospel must first be "published," or...


#2784 to herald (as a public crier), espec. divine truth (the gospel), - preacher (-er), proclaim, publish.


The definition of "gospel" is the good news. Here it is the "divine truth." That is an interesting distinction. The good news has been spread around the world but the...divine truth is, I believe, the latter rain that has yet to be proclaimed. That deeper knowledge is what "must first be published," and that happens when the Holy Spirit speaks through the witnesses of end times.


Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for He hath given you the former rain moderately, and He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

2:28-29 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My spirit.

I am impressed WW. I must tell you that since the day we met on the other forum, years ago, you have grown a lot. I have seen in you a true willingness to learn from the Lord and His Word and you are really trying not to stick to the doctrines that were handed down to you. I have minor things that I disagree on, but in most you are really correct in your thinking. It also is consistent with what the rest of the Bible teaches (in type and shadows)

I must admit, sometimes on Deans forum, you drove me nuts , but in retrospect I now see that you were really trying to understand , by going through all related "words" in scriptures. Bless you, you are blessing me.

love in Christ
C