I'm not aware of it. But I will defend any part of it that speaks of the two different natures/forms of Jesus. One before he came from heaven, and the other after he came from heaven. This is clearly taught in Philippians 2:6-8.
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I think it has to do with Jesus ON EARTH.
Google it for goodness sake!
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No.
The 2nd person of the Trinity has no beginning and no end. His earthly form does. And THAT is what she is mother of.
The early "reformers" believed that Mary was the mother of God.
Martin Luther
“She is rightly called not only the mother of the man, but also the Mother of God ... It is certain that Mary is the Mother of the real and true God." (Pelikan, J (ed), The Works of Martin Luther, Concordia: St. Louis, volume 24, 107.)
John Calvin
"Elizabeth called Mary Mother of the Lord, because the unity of the person in the two natures of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary was at the same time the eternal God.” (Calvin, J, Opera, Braunshweig-Berlin, 1863-1900, Volume 45, 35.)
Ulrich Zwingli
“I esteem immensely the Mother of God, the ever chaste, immaculate Virgin Mary.” (Stakemeier, E, in De Mariologia et Oecumenismo, Balic, K (ed), Rome, 1962, p.456.)
It was only later as Protestatism splintered into myriad denominations, sects ands cults that they began to deny the truhs about Mary.
Martin Luther
“She is rightly called not only the mother of the man, but also the Mother of God ... It is certain that Mary is the Mother of the real and true God." (Pelikan, J (ed), The Works of Martin Luther, Concordia: St. Louis, volume 24, 107.)
John Calvin
"Elizabeth called Mary Mother of the Lord, because the unity of the person in the two natures of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary was at the same time the eternal God.” (Calvin, J, Opera, Braunshweig-Berlin, 1863-1900, Volume 45, 35.)
Ulrich Zwingli
“I esteem immensely the Mother of God, the ever chaste, immaculate Virgin Mary.” (Stakemeier, E, in De Mariologia et Oecumenismo, Balic, K (ed), Rome, 1962, p.456.)
It was only later as Protestatism splintered into myriad denominations, sects ands cults that they began to deny the truhs about Mary.
Even on the weekends my neighbors who know I'm a brain surgeon constantly hit me up for free brain surgeries.
I never gets no rest!
Since there are many, many statues of Mary throughout Christendom and Mary is prayed to by Catholics, I would call that worship.
Definition: "The most common word for “worship” literally means “bend over” or “bow down.” It describes a gesture of respect or submission to human beings, to God, or to idols." Another definition: "Worship" is reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. Clearly, Mary is worshiped.
With all due respect to you, I don't care what they said.
Just because I'm not Catholic does not mean I'm Reformist.
Reformed theology has it's own problems, lol.
The time of the Protestant Reformation was a very, dark, troubled time, theologically.
It's only in these last days that people like myself are casting off that cesspool of Catholic vs. Protestant confusion and finding the truth for ourselves in the pages of our Bibles with the aid of the Holy Spirit, along with godly discussion with other believers with like-minded resistance to the theologies of misguided, but perhaps well meaning, men.
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Sophistry. Jesus (actually Yeshua) was the name given to the second person of the Trinity when He took on human form.Let me try an edit on this .
The Word always existed .
The 2nd Person of the Trinity always existed.
Jesus did not always exist ... He was born 2,000 years ago.
This is why He is 100% human and 100% divine.
The Word and the 2nd Person are 100% divine.
Jesus, as Jesus , did not always exist.
Not sure if I am all in on my edit .
As does the motherhood of Mary!
She is only his mother in regard to his earthly form. That's all.
And blessed rather are those who hear and obey the word of God! (Luke 11:27-28).
So you have your own personal meaning of worship.
Bowing is not worship. Bowing is giving honour,
Abraham rose and bowed to the Hittites, the people of the land (Gen 23:7)
Was Abraham worship[ping the Hittites?
Then Abraham bowed down before the people of the land. (Gen 23:12)
Was Abraham worshipping the people of the land?
And Jonathan gave his weapons to his lad, and said to him, "Go and carry them to the city." And as soon as the lad had gone, David rose from beside the stone heap and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed three times; and they kissed one another, and wept with one another, until David recovered himself. (1Sam 20:40-41)
Was Jonathan worshipping David?
And they told the king, "Here is Nathan the prophet." And when he came in before the king, he bowed before the king, with his face to the ground. (1Kg 1:23)
Was Nathan worshipping the king?
So Bathsheba went to King Solomon, to speak to him on behalf of Adonijah. And the king rose to meet her, and bowed down to her (1Kg 2:19)
Was King Solomon worshipping Bathsheba?
You have crazy neighbors!!!Even on the weekends my neighbors who know I'm a brain surgeon constantly hit me up for free brain surgeries.
I never gets no rest!
Oh I see. People like you who make up their own personal version of Christianity by discerning "their truth".
He was the Word.
He walked among us, having all the same pressures any other man would encounter; but lived it without sin so He could fulfill the presaged perfect lamb prophesies.
Where is it prophesied that God would die for our sins?
He was not a sinful man.
He was the Word made flesh who never committed sin.
What just happened to your trinity belief?
Three in one yet each distinctive from the others?
No, not by myself. Together we believers who possess the Holy Spirit and the pure desire to know non-denominational truth discern the truth.
And the Word was God (John 1:1)
If he was born with a fallen nature how could he not sin?
Paul said "all men sinned" (Rom 5:12)
What has prophecy got to do with it?
1 John 2:2
and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
No mere man could do that. Only God.
It is only confusing if you leave out the existence of the Word.
God and the Word were one, but when the Word took on flesh they were separated in that sense of "oneness".
Jesus prayed to God, as He couldn't pray to Himself.
Jesus credited God with the miracles He did, because He couldn't credit Himself.
Jesus thanked God the Father, because He couldn't thank Himself.
Jesus didn't know the day off the end, as only the Father had that knowledge.
Jesus couldn't grant the seats on either side of Him to James and John, as He didn't have that authority.
The Father and the Son are different than the Father and the Word.
If the Word, who "was God" still existed, there would be a quadrinity instead of a trinity.
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