I don't agree with your view of Jesus Christ. You think he's God and I do not.
The historical, orthodox position of Christianity is that Jesus is God in human flesh, because this is what Scripture states.
If you say I'm being naive and completely ignoring you. Then that's okay because you speak the Word of God.
Well, you did completely ignore everything I posted. I may as well have posted my grocery list. There was no attempt to engage any biblical text nor any argument. My comment about being "fairly naive" was because you claim to be a biblical scholar, one of the best on the person of Jesus, if I remember correctly, so you really
should know that your claim--"They said he said God was his father. And then their custom meant that Jesus was part of God's family."--simply isn't at all accurate. To be
the Son of God is a much stronger claim, as was being a son of a particular father. I was just meaning that it seems to be a fairly uninformed position for someone who claims to be a biblical scholar.
What I say about Scripture is my simply opinion about what I believe it is saying, based on study. I believe my view is correct just as you believe your view is correct.
If I tell you that you are naive and have ignored my post by telling me I'm wrong. Then that's my opinion which can then be deleted for being unloving.
No, I don't do that. Staff does not do that.
Looks like a typo when I said "Jesus was talking to his Jewish Apostles and the Christians."
I meant to write...
"Jesus was talking to his Jewish Apostles and not the Christians."
Fair enough, but there were no Christians and those same apostles became the first Christians. They baptized people with water during Jesus's ministry and then at the end of his ministry, Jesus commands them to go make more disciples and baptize them. There is nothing to suggest that it isn't without water, which is why we see it continue in the NT with water.
If you would enjoy conversing with me. Then let's deal with one verse at a time. I cannot respond to 18 different verses in each post from one person.
We can try, but if we're going to discuss the deity of Jesus, we cannot limit it to one verse at a time. Well, about almost any topic we shouldn't limit it to one verse at a time since context really, really matters. With Jesus's deity, there is just so much that has to be taken into account.