Every verse has a symbolic meaning. You have to test it out for yourself.
That seems like your kind of theology but it is not obtained from the text. There is a difference between symbolic meaning and literal meaning that uses figures of speech.
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Every verse has a symbolic meaning. You have to test it out for yourself.
Im saying some verses have both a literal & symbolic meaning & I'm saying not every verse has a literal meaning but every verse has a symbolic meaning.
Please share with me the symbolic meaning of these verses:
16 And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days. 17 Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah and built Ramah, that he might permit no one to go out or come in to Asa king of Judah. 18 Then Asa took all the silver and the gold that were left in the treasures of the house of the Lord and the treasures of the king's house and gave them into the hands of his servants. And King Asa sent them to Ben-hadad the son of Tabrimmon, the son of Hezion, king of Syria, who lived in Damascus.... (1 Kings 15:16-18 ESV).
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people wrote down their false interpretations in the bible of what they thought Jesus Christ said. Everyone has a different father.
I was told of these things through God's divine intervention in my life. A person I met told me of these things.Who are these people you speak of? Can you name them? Where is your undeniable proof come from in who is teaching you these things? You had better give your source for all of this as you are bordering on blaspheme, especially saying Jesus Christ and Christ Jesus are two different people and one is not the Son of God and that everyone has a different father.
Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
I was told of these things through God's divine intervention in my life. A person I met told me of these things.
First of all I never said every bible version has all the correct translations. In fact, if my memory serves right here, I literally stated that only the KJV has all the correct translations. So obviously IF I did state that in this thread already you must've been too careless to pay attention to that.
Some of the words used in this translation may be wrong. So please post the KJV of the same verse, THEN I'll give a symbolic meaning.
I would rather present the KJV symbolic meaning than the ESV symbolic meaning of that verse. Why? Well long story short, the interpretation of the Bible I use says it would be spiritually better for me to show the KJV symbolic meaning of the verse:TP,
I didn't ask which Bible version has the correct translations. My question to you was: Please share with me the symbolic meaning of (1 Kings 15:16-18 ESV).
So far in this thread, you've presented your opinion that 'every verse [in the Bible] has a symbolic meaning' (#5).
That is your assertion or personal opinion. You haven't demonstrated that to us. Then you have the time-worn comment that only the KJV provides the best translation. This has been refuted over and over but you won't accept that refutation, e.g. D A Carson, The King James Version Debate: A Plea for Realism.
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I would rather present the KJV symbolic meaning than the ESV symbolic meaning of that verse. Why? Well long story short, the interpretation of the Bible I use says it would be spiritually better for me to show the KJV symbolic meaning of the verse:
16 And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days.
17 And Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah, and built Ramah, that he might not suffer any to go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.
18 Then Asa took all the silver and the gold that were left in the treasures of the house of the Lord, and the treasures of the king's house, and delivered them into the hand of his servants: and king Asa sent them to Benhadad, the son of Tabrimon, the son of Hezion, king of Syria, that dwelt at Damascus, saying,
Firstly, the names mean things, they're not just words used as references to what people were called. I will not reveal what the names mean though.
Secondly all I will tell you is that the symbolic meaning of each word is = to the MAIN spiritual use of each word. That should be enough to go off of.
What? Why would that be what they are?Are they words to explain historical facts?
On second thought, yesAre they words to explain historical facts?
Firstly, the names mean things, they're not just words used as references to what people were called. I will not reveal what the names mean though.
Secondly all I will tell you is that the symbolic meaning of each word is = to the MAIN spiritual use of each word. That should be enough to go off of.
I will not reveal the name meanings because I am better off not, my very own karma is dependent on if I reveal the meanings or not.This gives us nothing to go on. Why will you not reveal what the names mean as you should if you want to prove your points as you view them. Other than that you have not given us any symbolism meaning of any verse we have presented to you. Why is that?
I think it would be for your best interest to not listen to this man who is teaching you such heresies and get into the word for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit teach you.
What? Why would that be what they are?
I will not reveal the name meanings because I am better off not, my very own karma is dependent on if I reveal the meanings or not.
So you come up with some kind of "out there" huge theological position that differs from every reputable theologian and expert in history and when asked to explain yourself you refuse...I will not reveal the name meanings because I am better off not, my very own karma is dependent on if I reveal the meanings or not.
I'm not using the traditional bible interpretations. For a supposed devote christian you sure are close-minded to any new ideas.So you come up with some kind of "out there" huge theological position that differs from every reputable theologian and expert in history and when asked to explain yourself you refuse...
Yeah...I'm sorry but I am not buying what you are selling.
Not even...I'm not using the traditional bible interpretations. For a supposed devote christian you sure are close-minded to any new ideas.
I will not reveal the name meanings because I am better off not, my very own karma is dependent on if I reveal the meanings or not.
Id have to prove that the bible says reincarnation is real. But that wouldn't be a practical task for me to take on, given a schedule I am using.Your 'very own karma'??? Please defend that statement from Scripture.