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Is believing/faith a work ?

Cooper said:
You have been persuaded by a sly and evil spirit not to attend to the saviour of the world, your sins to be forgiven.
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Back atcha.

[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 
rogerg said:
Back atcha.

[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
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That is you. You have been blinded by the god of this world.
 
Cooper said:
That is you. You have been blinded by the god of this world.
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Well, you're the one saying we have to believe and ask for Christ in order to be saved.
But how could anyone know to do that if they've been blinded - we are all born blind?
Christ has to first save us for us to see and not be blinded.
By the fact you say and believe that means you still are
 
rogerg said:
Well, you're the one saying we have to believe and ask for Christ in order to be saved.
But how could anyone know to do that if they've been blinded - we are all born blind?
Christ has to first save us for us to see and not be blinded.
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We need to open our eyes instead of keeping them closed.
 
Cooper said:
We need to open our eyes instead of keeping them closed.
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Of ourselves, we cannot do that, until saved we remain blind. Only
salvation opens the eyes.

[1Co 2:14 KJV] 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
 
rogerg said:
Of ourselves, we cannot do that, until saved we remain blind. Only
salvation opens the eyes.

[1Co 2:14 KJV] 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
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You cannot open your eyes because Satan has you in his grip.
 
Cooper said:
Says a follower of Calvin.
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I am not a Calvinist, I do follow what the Bible teaches.

You are more then welcome to enter into one of the many forums dedicated to the Doctrines of Grace and dispute the doctrines.

Funny I have not seen you in any of them.

Grace and peace to you.
 
rogerg said:
He gave me belief too - along with His coming to me. I needed not to do anything.
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If God has chosen you to salvation before the foundation, then Christ has died for you and redeemed you, and the Spirit will sooner or later give Faith to believe in Christ 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
 
brightfame52 said:
If God has chosen you to salvation before the foundation, then Christ has died for you and redeemed you, and the Spirit will sooner or later give Faith to believe in Christ 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
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We are elected unto obedience, not salvation. 1 Peter 1:2
 
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