I highlighted what I highlighted and you should consider that the emphasis is not founded in an unreality.
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Is believing/faith a work ?
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Regarding salvation, yes. To commit sin, one must break a law.A non-sinner is one who doesn't commit sin.
Does that describe you?
Here are the laws that govern salvation:
[Rom 8:2 KJV] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
No other laws are pertinent to salvation. Those who have been saved
have been placed under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, by Christ Jesus.
Everyone else is under the law of sin and death. No one can move themselves
to one or to the other.
Huh?that the emphasis is not founded in an unreality.
Huh?
*For the sake of the readers I feel compelled to quote the verses so that they can see for themselves whether what you are saying is true or not.
Act 2:38, Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39, For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Does it describe you?A non-sinner is one who doesn't commit sin.
Does that describe you?
brightfame52
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I asked you for the details I want. Who is Jesus Christ be specific, what did He accomplish and who specifically did He do it for and why ? If you cant answer then I will not answer your question.It would take volumes to describe Him in detail (see John 21:25).
I am encouraging you to receive the Jesus of the Bible and then be willing to learn about Him through the Bible; keeping in mind what it says in Proverbs 3:5-6.
Have you done that?
Or are you going to keep trying to evade the question?
journeymanisnothing
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Jesus is God in a human body.I asked you for the details I want. Who is Jesus Christ be specific,
He defeated death.what did He accomplish
For every sinner as he bore all sins.and who specifically did He do it for
Because of Mt.5:43-48. Also things like,and why ?
he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. Psa.78:38
As the passage in Matthew says, our great Savior did this for us, who did not love him.
The Bible plainly says gentiles would be drawn to God because of the gospel, not because of an arbitrary judgment by God before sinners hear the gospel.
brightfame52
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journeyman
No, I dont believe in that jesus !
For every sinner as he bore all sins.
No, I dont believe in that jesus !
journeymanisnothing
Member
I know you don't, but thescriptures say,journeyman
No, I dont believe in that jesus !
I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Isa.49:6
You believe the light goes on before sinners can see the Light, but the Light said,
They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Mk.2:17
So you're wrong from the starting gate.
Then you are not saved.journeyman
No, I dont believe in that jesus !
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God; God in the flesh; who came to this earth to die for our sins according to the scriptures, and was buried, and rose again the third day according to the scriptures.I asked you for the details I want. Who is Jesus Christ be specific, what did He accomplish and who specifically did He do it for and why ? If you cant answer then I will not answer your question.
Have you received this Jesus?
He will save you if you put your trust in Him.
"Have been saved"?Regarding salvation, yes. To commit sin, one must break a law.
Here are the laws that govern salvation:
[Rom 8:2 KJV] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
No other laws are pertinent to salvation. Those who have been saved
have been placed under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, by Christ Jesus.
Everyone else is under the law of sin and death. No one can move themselves
to one or to the other.
Did the final judgement happen already?
You have "jumped the gun".
Why hope for something we already have?
It is written..."For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?" (Rom 8:24)
BTW, we can move from the law of sin and death, and unto the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
Paul tells us how, in Rom 6.
Yes, thanks be to God...and the gift of repentance from sin, and baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, and the gift of the Holy Ghost, and every printed word of the bible, and a couple dozen other things.Does it describe you?
God has enabled me to walk in the light, and there is no darkness/sin in the light.
Did the final judgement happen already?
[Eph 2:8 KJV] 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Did you read that verse? The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (alone), made PaulBTW, we can move from the law of sin and death, and unto the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
Paul tells us how, in Rom 6.
free from the law of sin and death - it was by nothing that Paul did, nor could have done that made it happen
[Rom 8:2 KJV] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Becoming saved occurs in two parts: 1) when one is placed under the law of the Spirit of lifeWhy hope for something we already have?
in Christ Jesus, at a time of God's choosing, and 2) at the redemption of the body at the
end of time. Both are referred to in the Bible as being saved. Unless one has part in the first,
they will have no part in the second.
Which sin?Yes, thanks be to God...and the gift of repentance from sin
Double post.[Eph 2:8 KJV] 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Yep the grace is God's.[Eph 2:8 KJV] 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
I thank God for the preacher that told me about life in Christ.
I am also grateful I decided to adhere to the doctrines of Christ.
I hope I can hold fast to the faith until my end.
But with knowledge of the Israelite's in the desert falling away for lack of faith, I will hold on to my faith like my soul depends on it.
It does.
Don't kid yourself.Did you read that verse? The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (alone), made Paul
free from the law of sin and death - it was by nothing that Paul did, nor could have done that made it happen
[Rom 8:2 KJV] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Paul had to hear and believe all things concerning the faith, and then accept it as real, before he could move one inch in Christ.
If they don't remain faithful in your first part, the second will result in destruction.Becoming saved occurs in two parts: 1) when one is placed under the law of the Spirit of life
in Christ Jesus, at a time of God's choosing, and 2) at the redemption of the body at the
end of time. Both are referred to in the Bible as being saved. Unless one has part in the first,
they will have no part in the second.
I am a convert now, and that is all I will claim until the day of judgement.
All sin, permanently.Which sin?
Thank God for the death of the old man, and rebirth from God's seed, and the gift of the Holy Ghost.
And the divine nature of the new creature!