IS JESUS CHRIST GOD?

[for_his_glory]

When they became Adventist movement they get the light of the 10 Commandments. It is better to study only the SDA fundamental. Or should I have to write a book here of our foundation?

I have already given you the facts of their foundation so no, I do not need anything further, but thank you anyway.

 

[Pipiripi]

I'm not going to derail this thread and make it about Saturday sabbath as most everyone knows it is a Saturday and not a Sunday. The SDA and the LDS are founded on the teachings of Joseph Smith and the writings of Ellen G. Getty-White. It's not my fault if you do not want to do the deeper study of the foundation of your religion as I have.

I don't need to go down because I know what every one of them has in their church before they has united. One have the truth of baptism, another have the salvation only through Jesus, another have the truth of the 10 Commandments. And so by times God has put they all together and formed His true remnant church. The SDA church. All I need is their believing and the Bible. And I also know their falling. And God is using a FEW in that church and others that follow this completely true Bible teaching. We can answered all questions BIBLICAL. We are this people: Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12. We are the only FEW that can preached the three angels messages. Revelation 14:6-13.

 

[Pipiripi]

I have and they are all the same as some want to be associated with the name SDA and others LDS.

SDA- Saturday keeper - Sabbath. A church standing only upon their fundamental and we FEW in that church is following only the Bible and our pioneers tteaching.We know exactly who the antichrist is and also his plan to do before Jesus returns. I have preached here. There are many forums waiting for me, before they banner me.
Bless

 

[Pipiripi]

I'm not going to continue in getting into all these different topics as we are getting way off this topic and need to reel it back in. If you want to discuss all these other topics then please make a new thread in the theology forum.

Okay, begin one you! ?

 

[Randy]

I follow the Bible just like my pioneers. We are the church of the Bible. Not man teachings.

You disagree with Paul's writings? Nor do I find any mandate for the gentiles coming to faith in Christ to keep the sabbath as in the law for righteousness sake.

You follow Ellen White.

 

[Episcopius]

Romans 14:5-6

One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

 

[Episcopius]

In my town, a few years ago, the SDA church shared their building with a Presbyterian congregation for quite some time. Worked out well - SDA services on Saturday - Presbyterians on sunday. Eventually, the Presbyterians bought their own building elsewhere.

This need not be a matter of contention. Sabbath was always sundown Friday evening til sundown Saturday evening, Acts tells us that Christians met in a special way on the first day of the week (Sunday). But I do not call Sunday a "sabbath".
I regard every day alike.
The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.

Col 2:16

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

 

[Episcopius]

I eat ham, crawfish etouffe, and shrimp.
I go to some services where real wine is used at communion/eucharist - Methodiists have always used unfermented grape juice.
I can't keep up with all the Jewish holidays, or extra sabbaths.
Paul said eat whatever is sold in the shambles, whatever shambles are.
I should let no one judge me in any of this stuff.
But if a brother were to believe that a certain ham sandwich had been sacrificed to idols, I shouldn't eat it due to the weak brother's faith.
Straining at gnats; swallowing camels...

 

[Randy]

You don't understand Paul writings and also the Bible completely. My teaching is only from the Bible and my pioneers. God has sent me in all those denominations before I became a SDA. I know all their teachings. Try for yourself from Friday sun go down to Saturday sun goes down, and see what God will do. But don't do nothing for yourself benefit.

I like most all other churches understand Paul's writings. Your teaching in mandating the sabbath law to those already in Christ is NOT from above nor was such a mandate found in the NT in regard to the gentiles.
Your teaching is from Ellen White.

If you want to keep the sabbath as is in the law that's fine with me.

How far are you allowed to travel on the sabbath? As in a sabbaths day walk.

 

[Link1983]

There use to be a saying back in the 70's. God is like 3in1 oil. It's all oil, but has many functions.
I agree as none of us can fully know what the Trinity is, but to only know in pa

And this people are the ones that they names are written in the book of live. They that have the seal of God. And the seal of God is His 4th commandment. Revelation 12:17 and 14:12

Pipripi. You are very inclined on getting answers to your questions from myself and several other here I can se.
Nothing wrong with wanting to understand these things.

I'm just a little bit curious as you might be a little bit pressing others to answer your question.
It is no one here's responsibilities to help you, so that you can be right.

We are here to help eachother in any way possible. That we may build eachother up.
No one can claim honour from knowing what the Bible says.
We should give all the honour to Him that it comes from. The author.

I think the subject of the three is something that we should be humble about.
Because we can only understand what we have been give to understand. And what is necessary for us to have a good life.
Same or not or both. What matters more is what Jesus has done and how it can affect our life's.
The purpose of the Holy Spirit and how it can help us today.
Our relationship with God the father.
These are the things that can take us higher and higher.
Just think of the possibilities!

 

[Pipiripi]

Pipripi. You are very inclined on getting answers to your questions from myself and several other here I can se.
Nothing wrong with wanting to understand these things.

I'm just a little bit curious as you might be a little bit pressing others to answer your question.
It is no one here's responsibilities to help you, so that you can be right.

We are here to help eachother in any way possible. That we may build eachother up.
No one can claim honour from knowing what the Bible says.
We should give all the honour to Him that it comes from. The author.

I think the subject of the three is something that we should be humble about.
Because we can only understand what we have been give to understand. And what is necessary for us to have a good life.
Same or not or both. What matters more is what Jesus has done and how it can affect our life's.
The purpose of the Holy Spirit and how it can help us today.
Our relationship with God the father.
These are the things that can take us higher and higher.
Just think of the possibilities!

My friend I am looking for my salvation. God have give me a Commandment. He says: "Go and preached the TRUTH around the world." I think that everybody have see this command. So when if there something not written in the Bible and also it is not BIBLICAL. And that is against God rules. When people break God's rules and put their rules above God rules, I standing in the right place for fighting against world rules that is against rules. I have say, my work is done here. Aslong I am still not banned I will keep telling people BIBLICAL to see in the Bible of this teaching is from God. Jesus is coming soon, and people ignoring the truth. Specially if the see it and trampled on it. I know that there is nothing to do for them.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

 

[Who Me]

Your teaching is not BIBLICAL. I will never be agree with teaching that isn't in the Bible. That is the work of Satan. Where can I read a word that your god Holy Spirit saying something to Jesus or jehovah God? Give me verses and chapters. Proof me that I'm wrong BIBLICAL!

So you have never read Matthew 28:19.

 

[Pipiripi]

So you have never read Matthew 28:19.

Do you want me to write the truth about that verse? If you say yes, I will do it to prove you that I can answered all questions BIBLICAL.

 

[Randy]

And this people are the ones that they names are written in the book of live. They that have the seal of God. And the seal of God is His 4th commandment. Revelation 12:17 and 14:12

First who told you the seal was the 4th commandment?
Second those sealed were only 144,000 - 12,000 from each tribe of Israel

And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand,
sealed out of every tribe of the people of Israel:
From the tribe of Judah twelve thousand sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand,

6 from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand,

7 from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand,

8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand,
from the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand sealed.

 

[Randy]

My friend I am looking for my salvation. God have give me a Commandment. He says: "Go and preached the TRUTH around the world." I think that everybody have see this command. So when if there something not written in the Bible and also it is not BIBLICAL. And that is against God rules. When people break God's rules and put their rules above God rules, I standing in the right place for fighting against world rules that is against rules. I have say, my work is done here. Aslong I am still not banned I will keep telling people BIBLICAL to see in the Bible of this teaching is from God. Jesus is coming soon, and people ignoring the truth. Specially if the see it and trampled on it. I know that there is nothing to do for them.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

Your truth/message seems to be focused on and centered on the sabbath observance rather then Christ crucified. Why do you follow Ellen White?

Wickedness was rebuked. If your doctrine was so important to God as you seem to make it to be why then did Jesus fail to mention it? Why didn't the Apostles mandate that command to the gentiles? Perhaps because the Sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath?


As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’


I suggested to you that you ask the one who judges for a judgment. Christ Jesus. The one you claim as your Lord.

I have the Spirit of Christ in me which God gives to those who love and obey Him. I do NOT keep the sabbath as is in the law. I do keep the commands Jesus spoke of and I do abstain from sexual immorality. I do love Him.

You are mistaken.

 

[JLB]

So when if there something not written in the Bible and also it is not BIBLICAL. And that is against God rules. When people break God's rules and put their rules above God rules,

Please show me where Jesus teaches us to keep the Sabbath according to the law of Moses?



JLB

 

[Pipiripi]

Your truth/message seems to be focused on and centered on the sabbath observance rather then Christ crucified. Why do you follow Ellen White?

Wickedness was rebuked. If your doctrine was so important to God as you seem to make it to be why then did Jesus fail to mention it? Why didn't the Apostles mandate that command to the gentiles? Perhaps because the Sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath?


As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’


I suggested to you that you ask the one who judges for a judgment. Christ Jesus. The one you claim as your Lord.

I have the Spirit of Christ in me which God gives to those who love and obey Him. I do NOT keep the sabbath as is in the law. I do keep the commands Jesus spoke of and I do abstain from sexual immorality. I do love Him.

You are mistaken.

Is good keep believing in your God that establish the Sunday rest. But I will believe till I die, that MY God created the Sabbath for everyone, in the creation week. Before that there is Jews.

 

[Pipiripi]

Please show me where Jesus teaches us to keep the Sabbath according to the law of Moses?



JLB

When I'm home I will show you. Bless

 

[stovebolts]

Is good keep believing in your God that establish the Sunday rest. But I will believe till I die, that MY God created the Sabbath for everyone, in the creation week. Before that there is Jews.

There is nothing wrong with you believing or practicing this. Much good can come when you esteem one day above the rest and devote yourself to God on that day.

 

[Pipiripi]

Your truth/message seems to be focused on and centered on the sabbath observance rather then Christ crucified. Why do you follow Ellen White?

Wickedness was rebuked. If your doctrine was so important to God as you seem to make it to be why then did Jesus fail to mention it? Why didn't the Apostles mandate that command to the gentiles? Perhaps because the Sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath?


As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’


I suggested to you that you ask the one who judges for a judgment. Christ Jesus. The one you claim as your Lord.

I have the Spirit of Christ in me which God gives to those who love and obey Him. I do NOT keep the sabbath as is in the law. I do keep the commands Jesus spoke of and I do abstain from sexual immorality. I do love Him.

You are mistaken.

Later you will see if I am wrong. Everything that I have write is in the Bible. Everything with chapters and verses. If you cannot see it in the Bible then is a verse very dangerous. Later when I write something about the Sabbath, if you read it, then you will see something that you never has seen before.