Is the Law of God dead? And if yes, how?

[Truthfrees]

I'm not obligated to reply to everything you ask . I come here for Christ and not for you, sir. Focus, and train your questions n queries on others

amen - plus it is not the topic of this thread - you can also use the ignore feature to not see the posts of those who are not ideal discussion partners - you don't have to reply to everyone - a discussion remains peaceful that way

 

[rhomphaeam]

I'm not obligated to reply to everything you ask . I come here for Christ and not for you, sir. Focus, and train your questions n queries on others

No you are not obligated to answer my questions. Neither am I (it would seem) permitted to ask a man if the encouragement he received from another poster supports his belief. You posted a video in which you call an Apostle of Christ the anti -christ out of which you constructs a seeming argument in love by which you seek to remedy a mistaken understanding of the application of the Law of God. And a moderator upholds your posts and tells you to block me if I am not an ideal discussion partner. Interesting if nothing else.

 

[Rajesh Sahu]

amen - plus it is not the topic of this thread - you can also use the ignore feature to not see the posts of those who are not ideal discussion partners - you don't have to reply to everyone - a discussion remains peaceful that way

I wasn't aware of ignore feature . That's a very good feature to preempt uncalled for harassment / pursuit

 

[Truthfrees]

I wasn't aware of ignore feature . That's a very good feature to preempt uncalled for harassment / pursuit

yes let the mouse hover over the person's name and a box pops up - at the bottom of the box is IGNORE - click that box and you will no longer see any of that person's posts - it's a great way to erase all unpleasantness from a thread - then all you see are the edifying posts

 

[Truthfrees]

So are you insinuating that my asking a simple question of another poster - out of topic - as you claim - would remove the peace? The poster you gave that advise to may sense it that way as he is enthusiastic of your advise. He even alluded to harassment and pursuit. Isn't that generally called stalking? Who's stalking Moderator?

i apologize if i offended you - my intent was to help the other member deal with an unpleasant situation - i see i should have pm'd him instead - i will do that next time - apologies to you - Rajesh Sahu is always polite and respectful - i was trying to help him

 

[rhomphaeam]

i apologize if i offended you - my intent was to help the other member deal with an unpleasant situation - i see i should have pm'd him instead - i will do that next time - apologies to you

You have simply reinforced the same meaning. How I feel is irrelevant. I am not a child and I don't do emotional babble that ends up producing nothing but confusion. I asked the poster a simple question about whether your post upheld his claims - for goodness sake he even posted a video. Did you watch it? It's his video not some strangers opinion. It is his teaching. And its in this thread. It outlines a claim that the aspotle Paul is the anti christ and it is predicated on the very subject in this thread. So now you say that your comment about blocking another poster - alluding to myself - was an attempt to help him deal with an unpleasant situation. I'm not offended - I am totally flabbergasted.

 

[Rajesh Sahu]

yes let the mouse hover over the person's name and a box pops up - at the bottom of the box is IGNORE - click that box and you will no longer see any of that person's posts - it's a great way to erase all unpleasantness from a thread - then all you see are the Godly posts

Thank you for sharing that . Yes Godly knowledge is priceless . Like I said I'm extremely partial to Christ's words. In fact it's an irony that Christ's words in many of the Churches in my city and close by have almost disappeared . Mostly Paul is taught . I'm watching nine or ten churches' Sunday services online. I'm not seeing Christ's words being taught at all. It's not ok to throw the master's words in the background. I'm requesting many Churchgoers can we dedicate one year, 2022, exclusively to Christ? Study the four gospels minutely in the year so we may all learn straight from the Savior. I find it a bit sinister what is happening. A bizarre irony is building up. Christ is not being taught adequately ( if at all) in many Christian Churches! I believe we owe Him at least this much that we respectfully request our teachers at Churches to dedicate at least one year to our Lord....Sorry I digressed a bit from the thread topic. But it's yet connected. There is nothing without Christ in the Word ( at least for me). For he IS the Word! It just hurts me deeply

 

[Truthfrees]

You have simply reinforced the same meaning. How I feel is irrelevant. I am not a child and I don't do emotional babble that ends up producing nothing but confusion. I asked the poster a simple question about whether your post upheld his claims - for goodness sake he even posted a video. Did you watch it? It's his video not some strangers opinion. It is his teaching. And its in this thread. It outlines a claim that the aspotle Paul is the anti christ and it is predicated on the very subject in this thread. So now you say that your comment about blocking another poster - alluding to myself - was an attempt to help him deal with an unpleasant situation. I'm not offended - I am totally flabbergasted.

you are right - i didn't see your side - i wasn't thinking of you - i was only thinking of the other member - so next time i will help people in private so as to not compound an already unpleasant situation - is there anything i can do to make this right for you?

 

[JLB]

Answer is FALSE. He taught corrupted doctrine and subverted the pristine doctrine of Christ. Paul is the false prophet Christ repeatedly warned about/ gave a heads up about in His ministry. My 56 minute long video deals extensively with that matter, and the seven times /places where He warned us. I wish not to debate that here.

No doubt you wish not to discuss here, because as of yet, you have not presented anything at all in these discussion threads that validates your theory of the writings of Paul being false.


and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 2 Peter 3:15-16



Peter validated Paul as a beloved brother, as well as indicated his epistles were scripture.



Do you believe Peter was a false apostle also?






JLB

 

[JLB]

by the time converted paul came on the scene the way was well established as a sect of judaism

The way was never considered a sect of Judaism.

Judaism is a false religion that rejects Jesus as Messiah, which is the definition of antichrist.


Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 1 John 2:22-23




JLB

 

[rhomphaeam]

you are right - i didn't see your side - i wasn't thinking of you - i was only thinking of the other member - so next time i will help people in private so as to not compound an already unpleasant situation - is there anything i can do to make this right for you?

Brother we are not under law we are under grace. I am not offended with you. Neither was I pressing my own position. I did nothing but press into the other posters position. Not my position. Christ died and shed His blood and that covers all sin. Yours and mine and that other posters sin also - and yet I reckon that neither you not myself have sinned. Thats all. Nothing to put right here brother. Shalom

 

[JLB]

so in paul's gospel days he went to the gentiles and the other apostles went to the jews

Paul was sent to both Jew and Gentile.

He went to the Jews first to try and convert them because once a Jew was converted to Christ from Judaism, he would already have some knowledge of scripture and would be useful to teach the Gentiles in the Church Paul raised up, when he would move on.


Words of Christ in red —


But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’ “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts 26:16-20




Jews who were bound by Judaism, were called to turn to Christ and turn away from Satan.





JLB

 

[Rajesh Sahu]

No doubt you wish not to discuss here, because as of yet, you have not presented anything at all in these discussion threads that validates your theory of the writings of Paul being false.


and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 2 Peter 3:15-16



Peter validated Paul as a beloved brother, as well as indicated his epistles were scripture.



Do you believe Peter was a false apostle also?






JLB

Same argument I had with my mentor as you and me . I requested a neutral jury . An impartial and ethical jury / referee to witness both sides and rule diligently. Else I and you can go on endlessly sticking to our stands resolutely, even stubbornly. That's every debate has an umpire / referee / judge. Otherwise arguments , debates , disputes will go on endlessly. As you're telling me I can say you just keep repeating yourself. Therefore let us sit down with a just referee and Lord as our witness. Willing to travel anywhere for such an event and debate with anyone so long as we keep it strictly confined to scripture/ verses and not personal attacks . If you're willing I'm ready , else we can go on and on and on trading charges . This debate is now becoming more and more necessary with hundreds of Christians coming forward with their doubts on what is being taught in their Churches . I would like this debate to be recorded and then put in YouTube for collective edification

 

[rhomphaeam]

Thank you for sharing that . Yes Godly knowledge is priceless . Like I said I'm extremely partial to Christ's words. In fact it's an irony that Christ's words in many of the Churches in my city and close by have almost disappeared . Mostly Paul is taught . I'm watching nine or ten churches' Sunday services online. I'm not seeing Christ's words being taught at all. It's not ok to throw the master's words in the background. I'm requesting many Churchgoers can we dedicate one year, 2022, exclusively to Christ? Study the four gospels minutely in the year so we may all learn straight from the Savior. I find it a bit sinister what is happening. A bizarre irony is building up. Christ is not being taught adequately ( if at all) in many Christian Churches! I believe we owe Him at least this much that we respectfully request our teachers at Churches to dedicate at least one year to our Lord....Sorry I digressed a bit from the thread topic. But it's yet connected. There is nothing without Christ in the Word ( at least for me). For he IS the Word! It just hurts me deeply

"For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." The Apostle Paul.

 

[JLB]

I'm requesting many Churchgoers can we dedicate one year, 2022, exclusively to Christ? Study the four gospels minutely in the year so we may all learn straight from the Savior.

When we study the Gospels we are learning the doctrine of Christ through the apostles, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.


When we study Acts, we are learning the doctrine of Christ through Luke.


When we study the rest of the New Testament we are learning the doctrine of Christ through Peter, Paul, John and James.


The New Testament is all inspired and from Christ Jesus.





JLB

 

[Rajesh Sahu]

When we study the Gospels we are learning the doctrine of Christ through the apostles, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.


When we study Acts, we are learning the doctrine of Christ through Luke.


When we study the rest of the New Testament we are learning the doctrine of Christ through Peter, Paul, John and James.


The New Testament is all inspired and from Christ Jesus.





JLB

Can we have a debate with a neutral jury if you're so confident about your position ?

 

[JLB]

Same argument I had with my mentor as you and me . I requested a neutral jury . An impartial and ethical jury / referee to witness both sides and rule diligently. Else I and you can go on endlessly sticking to our stands resolutely, even stubbornly. That's every debate has an umpire / referee / judge. Otherwise arguments , debates , disputes will go on endlessly. As you're telling me I can say you just keep repeating yourself. Therefore let us sit down with a just referee and Lord as our witness. Willing to travel anywhere for such an event and debate with anyone so long as we keep it strictly confined to scripture/ verses and not personal attacks . If you're willing I'm ready , else we can go on and on and on trading charges . This debate is now becoming more and more necessary with hundreds of Christians coming forward with their doubts on what is being taught in their Churches . I would like this debate to be recorded and then put in YouTube for collective edification

Im just waiting for one single verse from any other Apostle in the New Testament warning us that Paul was a false teacher.


Here we have a record from Luke that Paul was sent as an apostle of Christ.


But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’ “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts 26:16-20



Here we have Peter validating Paul as a dear brother, and his writings as scripture.



and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 2 Peter 3:15-16


Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every truth be established.




I believe the apostles of the New Testament.








JLB

 

[JLB]

Can we have a debate with a neutral jury if you're so confident about your position ?

I have provded scripture.



I am waiting for your scripture.

 

[Rajesh Sahu]

I have provded scripture.



I am waiting for your scripture.

Let.us. have.a.debate. with .a.nrutral .jury. yes or no?

 

[Rajesh Sahu]

I have provded scripture.



I am waiting for your scripture.

Paul's own confession in 2 Corinthians 12:16 : CRAFTY fellow that I am , I took you in by DECEIT
Now can we have a live debate with a neutral jury ?