The truth is the spiritual wisdom and knowledge found in the one true God. In none other.
What we discuss in these forum debates are mental ideas and concepts -- doctrines -- but they are totally different from spiritual truth.
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It’s not biblical!
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What we discuss in these forum debates are mental ideas and concepts -- doctrines -- but they are totally different from spiritual truth.
As long as you're here, why not learn to reply to a post. It's at the bottom right of a person's post. Otherwise nobody can figure out what you're discussing.
Your present post (above) is a perfect example.
GodsGrace
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Truth is a statement that is spoken or written.
Truth is something that is believed by a community.
What TRUTH do we have if we cannot agree on as many matters as I have listed?
I disagree with your definitions. There is another concept in addition to that which is spoken or written: spiritual truth.
For example, the truth that is spoken in court vs. Jesus being "the truth". And it is not necessarily something that is believed by a community. The Pharisees and Sadducees believed they knew the truth, but Jesus clearly showed them their error.
We have the truth by knowing God through Christ. Jesus said to him [Thomas], “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” John 14:6-7. Clearly this falls outside of the definition you gave.
GodsGrace
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What is spiritual truth?
It's truth brought out by the holy spirit. Do you know what that is?
GodsGrace
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IMHO it is the "knowing" produced within us by the Holy Spirit (although that's a weak definition). How do you know that Jesus is the Son of God and our Savior? By reasoning it out or something else?
Spiritual truth is only given in the Spiritual realm of God and cannot be rationalized by the carnal mind.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
"Spiritual truth is only given in the Spiritual realm of God and cannot be rationalized by the carnal mind."
And that is where the Trinity, Immortal Soul, Hellfire- and all the rest COME from, since they can't gel with Holy Scripture?
And that is where the Trinity, Immortal Soul, Hellfire- and all the rest COME from, since they can't gel with Holy Scripture?
Great post!
What does this mean???
Be specific! The poster said biblical truth's not know by 'carnal minds'!
Please answer my question: What does your post #550 mean?
"Spiritual truth is only given in the Spiritual realm of God and cannot be rationalized by the carnal mind."
And that is where the Trinity, Immortal Soul, Hellfire- and all the rest COME from, since they can't gel with Holy Scripture?
The Trinity, Immortal Soul, Hellfire, etc IS NOT IN THE BIBLE!
That's just ONE of their excuses to continue believing!
The trinity: Jesus said “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, to be with you forever. This is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him because he abides with you, and he will be in you." John 14:15-17
Eternal life: "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my name’s sake will receive a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life." Matthew 19:29
Hellfire: "The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will collect out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all evildoers, and they will throw them into the furnace of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth..” Matthew 13:41-42
These selections took me about 5 minutes to compile. Read your Bible!
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I am getting tired of responding to your pointless posts. I don't know why you have joined these discussions but I am very close to putting you on "ignore" status.
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I an forbidden to use sarcasm.
How can you call yourself a Christian and not believe in the written word of God. What do you use to study from?
Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 7 - Darby Translation
And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Thou shalt speak all that I command thee; and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he let the children of Israel go out of his land. And I will render Pharaoh's heart...
And are you being SARCASTIC to me?