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It's always the devil with you!!

2 Corinthians 4:18 Amplified Bible (AMP)

18 Since we consider and look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are visible are temporal (brief and fleeting), but the things that are invisible are deathless and everlasting.



Colossians 1 Amplified Bible (AMP)


15 [Now] He is the [o]exact likeness of the unseen God [the visible representation of the invisible]; He is the Firstborn of all creation.

16 For it was in Him that all things were created, in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, whether thrones, dominions, rulers, or authorities; all things were created and exist through Him [by His service, intervention] and in and for Him.

17 And He Himself existed before all things, and in Him all things consist (cohere, are held together).

18 He also is the Head of [His] body, the church; seeing He is the Beginning, the Firstborn from among the dead, so that He alone in everything and in every respect might occupy the chief place [stand first and be preeminent].
I asked you what you meant, which means you explain your statements. Merely posting Scripture shows nothing.
 
I asked you what you meant, which means you explain your statements. Merely posting Scripture shows nothing.
Your mind hears but your spirit doesn't...it has been explained. Ask, Seek, and Knock and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal it.
 
Your mind hears but your spirit doesn't...it has been explained. Ask, Seek, and Knock and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal it.
No, it hasn't. I am asking you what you meant by your statements. Why should I ask the Holy Spirit what you meant?
 
however, we must not forget that the spiritual realm is higher than the physical realm.


What do you mean?

I'll take a stab at it. The spiritual realm is higher than the physical realm (more real than the physical ream). It's unseen, but it's real. We have to keep this in mind and not be distracted by the physical realm. You know the scripture that says that if a man looks after a woman with lust in his heart, that's he's guilty of adultery? Sure you do. Ok so how can this be, if we had only thought about sleeping with some woman but never did it physically? Was it cheating? The Lord says yes, and this is a clue to the spiritual realm and it's reality. To use one's imagination is to enter into the spiritual realm, and we will be judged on that, our very thoughts, because the reality of it is higher than than the physical realm.

All physical things originated in the unseen, spiritual realm, including all of mankind.

Think here of inventions, the chair that you sit on right now. Where'd it come from? Well, some guy designed it and made it. Ok, so where'd he get the idea for it? In his imagination...he left the physical realm and went into the spiritual realm, saw the chair, then came back from the spiritual realm into the physical, wrote it down and then made it. It came from the spiritual realm first though.

How about your bible, the Word of God. What is it? Or a better question would be, what was it, before it became a book, written down for you? The thoughts of God. We all think, we all use our imagination, even God. God thought about man before he formed him of the dust of the ground and made him. This is partially how the spiritual realm works, the mechanics of it. I know it sounds bizarre, but we've been lied to our entire lives, this is real.

So next time your 4 year old says daddy there's a monster in my closet, think twice before you tell them oh it's just your imagination, go to sleep. You do not want to teach them that imagination is worthless. Better yet, say really, what does it look like? Do you know that Jesus gives us authority over them? Tell it to go away in the name of Jesus and he will. Bring up a child in the way that he should go...
 
But this is real brother. Don't you believe in a Spiritual realm? Other dimensions? We know God is real, but you can't see Him...so where is He?
im more aware of that realm but I don't spend time cursing darkness. most of the time the evil we see in television or in inventions is from mans heart not some demon.
 
I cant count on my hand how many demons I have seen. its few. I do think they exist but they don't do a lot of what pentacostals claim. one cant make a deal with the devil for a talent.
 
okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, we are now in the twilight zone.
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im more aware of that realm but I don't spend time cursing darkness. most of the time the evil we see in television or in inventions is from mans heart not some demon.

True that. We have deceitful hearts and lusts of the flesh, as well as outside influence, the enemy and the Holy Spirit.
 
No, it hasn't. I am asking you what you meant by your statements. Why should I ask the Holy Spirit what you meant?

That scripture does give explanation, but sometimes it is not always comprehended by us, in which case (and all cases) we should look to the Holy Spirit for revelation and answers.

It's all through scripture, let he who lacks in wisdom & understanding ask the Lord who giveth liberally, seek and you will find, lean not upon our own understanding, But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him....and others I'm sure.

Why wouldn't we look to the Holy Spirit for revelation of truth?
 
I really make a conscious effort to be obedient to God.Everything that is very,very obvious that is bad I stay away from.But still I sin.Can't get away from it as a human.The other day I was backing my car out of the garage.I was going very,very slow thank God.I had forgotten to close one of the back doors on my car.I hear a CRUNCH!!! [removed unnecessary expletive reference. :nono]
 
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I cant count on my hand how many demons I have seen. its few. I do think they exist but they don't do a lot of what pentacostals claim. one cant make a deal with the devil for a talent.

Ok then, you do believe that the spiritual realm exists and is real. Praise the Lord for that. It is real. We should strive to learn more about it and to walk within it at all times.

The details of it are many and whether or not certain denominations believe this ir that about it is largely irrevelant to our discussion. You're very probably right that they (the demons) are not messing with us as much as some would say, perhaps they look for someone to point a finger at, rather than accept personal responsibility for some of their sins.

On the other hand, at some times, the demons may in fact be messing with us, when we don't realize it. All the more reason to learn and grow in the spirit and learn all we can about the spiritual realm. Living for the Spirit, walking in the Spirit, being dominated by the Lord's Holy Spirit and being led by Him.
 
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I cant count on my hand how many demons I have seen. its few. I do think they exist but they don't do a lot of what pentacostals claim. one cant make a deal with the devil for a talent.
So what do these demons look like?Did you get a picture of them?
 
So what do these demons look like?Did you get a picture of them?

I have heard the rumor, that in Calafornia there people who have what they call pet demons. I do not have any details of this, tending to shy away from such types, but they say it is so.
 
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
(Mat 16:22-23)

If you notice, Jesus looks at Peter but address the author of the comment that came from Peter's mouth. Devils are everywhere and getting their hands into what we allow them to get their hands into. Peter warned us they go about like a lion look for folks to devour, they take no breaks, they don't sleep. Even simple comments are often from a devil who has planted that suggestion in someone's mind.

It's best to be righteous minded, not devil minded. Focused on the Word, not what a stupid devil is doing.

Mike.
 
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