Jesus' DNA

[Blazin Bones]

RND, you make a great point. There is no good reason to believe Jesus had ANY human DNA. And, even if he did, there is no way to know what it looked like or what it contained.

 

[ProphetMark]

RND, you make a great point. There is no good reason to believe Jesus had ANY human DNA. And, even if he did, there is no way to know what it looked like or what it contained.

But then, in what way would Jesus be human?

 

[RND]

I think in every way Jesus was human He just wasn't born with "original sin." I don't think there are any scriptures that would confirm that Jesus was born with original sin. In fact I think the scriptures are clear that He took the punishment and bore our iniquities and was "made sin" for us.

I think if Jesus had any human DNA then He would have been born with original sin.

 

[paulo75]

No, NOT millions of Christians believe in Evolution, OR believe that homosexuality is not the abomination that God says it is. Christians follow the Word.

I know that this has been discussed in other threads, but at the risk of taking things off topic, you have to put the Bible into the historical context in which it was written; "abomination" did not mean the same thing in Biblical times that it does today, leading many Christians to think that homosexuality is forbidden by God. Of the few verses in the Bible that talk of homosexuals, none of them actually condemn it when taken into historical context. I thought the same, until I educated myself on historical literature. Many Christians don't do this though, and misinterpret God's word, which is unfortunate.

Sorry if I've ruffled some feathers there.

 

[RND]

Of the few verses in the Bible that talk of homosexuals, none of them actually condemn it when taken into historical context.

You mean when taken "out" of historical context.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

 

[brakelite2]

Heh, heh. Just to add some fuel to the fire, there is a gentleman from my own country who I have met and heard on several occasions who has been over all of Ron Wyatt's finds, and has confirmed every one, except for the ark. Israel authorities allow no-one near there. His name is Jonathon Gray. He has videod all the sites (Including the underwater site of the Red Sea) and the Mt Sinai (in Arabia!!!...not the Sinai Peninsula) site with it's blackened summit. The sites thus found line up perfectly with the descriptions in the scriptures and with geographical locations. Very interesting and greatly encouraging for faith.
The Noah's Ark site is interesting in that it completely throws out the door another more established site 12 kilometres north. I tend to think professional jealousy is the reason more seasoned and established archaeologists don't investigate Wyatt's work with more interest.

 

[cyberjosh]

As I've said before, I don't doubt Ron Wyatt has found many legitimate things. We need lots of more "Jonathon Gray"s though to double check Wyatt and offer us a second and third opinion. That would greatly help Wyatt's claims. That's good that that guy did that though. Is there any kind of article written by this guy (Jonathon) that talks about his finds? I'd like to see it if you do know of such an article. Thanks.

God Bless,

~Josh

 

[brakelite2]

As I've said before, I don't doubt Ron Wyatt has found many legitimate things. We need lots of more "Jonathon Gray"s though to double check Wyatt and offer us a second and third opinion. That would greatly help Wyatt's claims. That's good that that guy did that though. Is there any kind of article written by this guy (Jonathon) that talks about his finds? I'd like to see it if you do know of such an article. Thanks.

God Bless,

~Josh

Google his name, Jonathon Gray - archaeologist- and you'll find a web site. He has also published a number of books. One I have is entitled "The Ark of the Covenant". Don't know where you'll find a copy though. Maybe through his web site or a link.

 

[brakelite2]

Also, I believe the Turkish Govt has made the site of Noah's ark a national park, and named it Noah's ark national park or something to that effect. Ron Wyatt was guest of honour at the opening. And by the way, Wyatt didn't 'discover' the site. He saw it first in another article or publication as being a site of interest to other 'ark' searchers but who happened to write it off. Wyatt got interested and dug a bit deeper so to speak and found more evidence. Like anchor stones in the vicinity, and villages in the area all with names affiliated with 'flood' associations like village of eight etc etc. Interesting stuff.

 

[paulo75]

Of the few verses in the Bible that talk of homosexuals, none of them actually condemn it when taken into historical context.

You mean when taken "out" of historical context.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Again, to stay on topic, I've discussed my stance here:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32469

I don't plan to change my opinion right now. Have you done the research too, or are you going on blind faith? Just curious.

Thanks to everyone for the responses on the DNA question. Some very thoughtful, educational replies. :smt023

 

[RND]

I don't plan to change my opinion right now.

As is your prerogative.

Have you done the research too, or are you going on blind faith? Just curious.

I've read my Bible a few times does that count? Read a few books here and there.

 

[Free]

I Googled Jonathan Gray and, as I suspected, I cannot find anything reputable. I wouldn't trust anything by him or Ron Wyatt.