Yeah, I did, all of them and all of my different properties, ...followed what Jesus said, sold everything and gave it to the poor and the church, hit the beach here without a penny to my name, didn't have place to lay my head, often slept on a bench in the employees lunch room, that was almost 24 years ago, and like David said, "I've never seen the righteous begging bread," ...I seeked first the Kingdom of God and His righteous, and I can tell you now, ...my cup is truly running over and in all of these years of waking with Him He has never been in the wind or the earthquake or the fire or in any of the commotion so prevalent in the church today, ...He is still, as always, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, ...that still small voice that speaks through my spirit to my heart.
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Kundalini Warning To The Church Of Jesus Christ....True or False.
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Yeah, I did, all of them and all of my different properties, ...followed what Jesus said, sold everything and gave it to the poor and the church, hit the beach here without a penny to my name, didn't have place to lay my head, often slept on a bench in the employees lunch room, that was almost 24 years ago, and like David said, "I've never seen the righteous begging bread," ...I seeked first the Kingdom of God and His righteous, and I can tell you now, ...my cup is truly running over and in all of these years of waking with Him He has never been in the wind or the earthquake or the fire or in any of the commotion so prevalent in the church today, ...He is still, as always, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, ...that still small voice that speaks through my spirit to my heart.
I watched the video about a year ago.
In the end times we where warned there would be great deception and lying signs and wonders.. But i am carefull So i pay no attention to any signs i see in these end days.. I keep focusing what i hear comming out of their mouths. Their doctrines their teachings. Is it in alignment with the world of God or is it in false preaching... Be very very careful people and take personal responsability to read His Word so that you will not be caught up in deception but most of all make sure you have accepted the Love of the truth of the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ. I that way the Holy Spirit will guard you from all deception. But if you have rejected the True Love of the truth then you will be sent strong delusion so that you will be given over to deception and you will believe the lies..
Malachi
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The very name Kundalini should be a red flag. It is part and parcel of the Hindu system of connecting with demonic forces represented by the gods of Hinduism, and awakens the Sleeping Serpent. Scripture tells us that the idols are nothing, but the demons behind the idols are real and malevolent. There is also a sexual (libidinal) component to Kundalini Yoga.
From Wikipedia:
Kundalini (Sanskrit kuṇḍalinī, कुण्डलिनी) stems from yogic philosophy as a form of shakti or "corporeal energy". Kundalini is described within Eastern religious, or spiritual tradition as an indwelling spiritual energy that can be awakened in order to purify the subtle system and ultimately to bestow the state of Yoga, or divine union upon the seeker of truth. The Yoga Upanishads describe Kundalini as lying "coiled" at the base of the spine, represented as either a goddess or sleeping serpent waiting to be awakened. In modern commentaries, Kundalini has been called an unconscious, instinctive or libidinal force.
It is reported that Kundalini awakening results in deep meditation, enlightenment and bliss. This awakening involves the Kundalini physically moving up the central channel to reside within the Sahasrara Chakra at the top of the head. This movement of Kundalini is felt by the presence of a cool or, in the case of imbalance, a warm breeze across the palms of the hands or the soles of the feet. Many systems of yoga focus on the awakening of Kundalini through meditation, pranayama breathing, the practice of asana and chanting of mantras. In physical terms, one commonly reports the Kundalini experience to be a feeling of electric current running along the spine.
Some academics have coined the term "Kundalini syndrome" to refer to physical or psychological problems arising from experiences traditionally associated with Kundalini awakening
Sinthesis
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Thanks for posting the video. And thanks to Willie T for steering this away from becoming a one sided bash fest. Because I respect people on both sides, I chose to give the subject more thought than the reflexive personal repulsion I normally get from witnessing spectacular worship. That said, I now don't think it is a blessing from God, nor a curse from satan. Instead I believe this type of experiencial worship is a neutral human tactic utilized by many who seek God, and in the case of other religions, Hindus for example, not necessarily the True God. So then, whether for good or evil, the merit of experiencial worship depends upon the God one is reaching for. From the Christian perspective the problem with experience seeking is that it is only milk, while those who might promote it the most may also be the least likely to lead their followers on to the meat of the gospel. However, that does not mean those followers are lost.
Yeah, right. And what is that expensive piece of equipment you are communicating on right this minute? Not to mention the cost of being online. Sorry, that dog don't hunt.
Dear Brother Chopper, I watched the video and I do believe it to be something other than godly worship, and manifestations of the Holy Spirit.
1 Cor 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. Those affected know exactly what they're doing.
1 Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
That's much akin to the Corinthians all speaking in tongues in 1 Cor 14:23. If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? And these new things introduced have no basis in scripture.
My thoughts.
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This Kundalini thing is only one of many things going on in a new movement of Christianity spreading across the world.
Randy Clark, who seems to be in charge of everything, along with C. Peter Wagner, have a movement going right now that includes Mike Bickel, Bill Johnson, Che Ayn, Todd Bentley, and a slew of others.
Each has their own ministries that differ from one another but are tied together by the Apostolic Reformation, a non-existant organization that appoints each other apostles and are tied in with dominionism, mysticism, comtemplative prayer, and many other things that I have found not to be biblical.
They are new age and admit it, either directly, or in support of those who admit it.
They are all fast becoming multi-millionaires with great power over their followers.
I'll let you all chew on this before I go on.
Randy Clark, who seems to be in charge of everything, along with C. Peter Wagner, have a movement going right now that includes Mike Bickel, Bill Johnson, Che Ayn, Todd Bentley, and a slew of others.
Each has their own ministries that differ from one another but are tied together by the Apostolic Reformation, a non-existant organization that appoints each other apostles and are tied in with dominionism, mysticism, comtemplative prayer, and many other things that I have found not to be biblical.
They are new age and admit it, either directly, or in support of those who admit it.
They are all fast becoming multi-millionaires with great power over their followers.
I'll let you all chew on this before I go on.
Gary
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Quite simply because he stated that he sold all he had, and gave everything away to the poor and the church.
Am I to believe, now, that he sees that as a mistake, and has returned to owning things?
I only went by his own words, because that is all that was presented.
People shake in the presence of God, and you call what they are giving testimony as coming from God, demonic. In effect, you're calling them liars.
Gary
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And where did his words indicate that he thought he had made a mistake and returned to owning things? And really, so what if he did? He did say this happened 24 years ago. A lot can happen in 24 years.
Is he a liar because he's on a computer? Ever heard of a internet cafe? Look it up.
Sorry, you can't snatch at enough straws to pull this one out.
Gary
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Show me from scripture where Jesus got down on all fours and barked like a dog.
I saw no barking on that video where you called what they were doing, demonic. But I might have missed it.... where did it happen? The video time reference is fine.
Just asked where you saw that. If you did.
Jethro Bodine
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I think I know what he's saying and I'm pretty sure you did not understand what he was getting at.
I have a lot of catching up to do in this thread but everyone needs to watch this video Willie posted earlier and listen carefully to what the founder of Vineyard says.